Feel free to off yourself.

Can we go ahead and ban this ****ing moron now? I'd rather spend the next ten years in a Turkish prison with Prison Bitch and Clay than have to read anymore of this crybaby bitch's incessant whining.

There will be real QB's worth a first round pick this year.

He was a second year running back. I don't exactly think that Willis McGahee is an upgrade.

Also, we traded away a pick 2 years ago in the draft, so that Atlanta could come up and get Julio JONES.

That pick we got for him? TURNED INTO BRANDON WEEDEN.

If this pick doesn't end up as Teddy Bridgewater, then its a complete and utter fail.

if it does, then ill have to eat a lot of crow......

And what does any of that have to do with the new front office?

Good grief dude. All the shit you blasted chiefs fans here for over the past few months, you're doing here yourself.

Only if Geno Smith is available.

I don't know about that. I didn't see the Chiefs essentially after week two of the season say, well, we are tanking the rest of this year, and trade away what was pretty much their best asset, and only true offensive weapon.

Will do. Thanks......:D

This offensive weapon averaging 3.6 ypc? On a team bound to draft in the top 10?


And you got a first round pick for that nonetheless. He was drafted by a different regime, this one has no ties to him, nor do they have any impact on what has happened the last however long

If the chiefs qb situation were as bad as the browns, I'd take a first round pick for Charles and he's a much better player than Richardson

Take your crying to a Browns board. Jesus, if you were any more of a bitch you'd have puppies coming out of your ass.

Weeden isn't bad, though. His age is a huge knock against him, but he isn't a bad QB.

His play so far says differently.

Brody Croyle is available...

You don't know that.

I think teams will draft QBs in the 1st round because this is perceived to not be 2013, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be worth 1st round picks the way some people think they should be at.

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The old man in the white T-shirt could pass for fat Royals fan's father.

Well ****, you take a right tackle.

Isn't there a Browns board for you to vent your bullshit on, or have you been banned from that one too?

Well, that's a pretty good dictionary definition of a straw man. If you were going for that - congrats!

We're 2-0, quit crying.

Fair enough. But, as I said to Dane. We can revisit this at the end of the season.

Try a Romo-seltzer or bycarton-ofbackupinMinnisoda

Again. Its a browns thread, one that IM NOT THE OP of. What exactly SHOULD I talk about in it?

I never knew you had a problem with me.

By the way. I was talking about it on the BROWNS board.

Then this thread came up.

Cute of you to complain about A BROWNS FAN, talking about the BROWNS, IN A BROWNS THREAD.

keep up that outstanding work......Its cute.

More crying about talking about a browns trade in a BROWNS THREAD?

Would you like this warm glass of kiss my ass?

Don't you realize that every rookie QB is the worst-case scenario on here? The Browns would clearly be better off trading for TJ Yates. :rolleyes:

On what planet is he a "beast"? He's okay but certainly not good enough to justify how high he was picked.

agreed. This is just pent up frustration of a team that is completely full of failure.

Just frustrating. Im completely over it now. just hoping we get Teddy at this point.

admittedly, I overreacted in this thread. But I am back to normal . Sorry for any that had to read this shit......

SNR spammed this place with Geno Smith bullshit then mocks true fans. Pathetic.

Who's said anything about a QB having to be a sure thing? Both sides of the argument love twisting the words of the other side. No one knows if ANYONE is a sure thing, bu the whole "just try until you find one" argument is stupid as shit.

I mean... are people saying they should invest an extremely high pick and millions of dollars just to say they tried? That's just stupid.

Drafting someone just to draft someone is how you fail.

I wouldn't be frustrated at all if I were a Browns fan - I'd be happy that the Colts overpaid to that degree and set up a very bright future for Cleveland.

Not sure if possible

So if Teddy Bridgewater isn't all that, what do the Browns do? Not draft a QB?

Cam Newton would be a sexy-ass trade if they could pull it off, but then what does Carolina do?

They'd just be drafting a QB just to draft one then, right? And they can't do that. So... RT?

We should continue to have the same 5 year old discussion

Again. The correct moves have to be made. They traded down from 6 to 26, then traded back up with the Chiefs to 21 to take Phil Taylor, and then with the other first they got from that trade, they took Brandon WEEDEN.

Trent Richardson was a player that many saw as a potent weapon. He got off to a slow start because they are starting a back up fringe nfl right tackle, at guard. They don't have a true blocking fullback, or a true blocking tight end on the roster.

They also played two really good defenses to start the season in Baltimore, and Miami.

Browns fans like myself can only see this as a white flag to the season.

LOL. First time I have laughed all day.

Draft the best player available then.

Drafting a player just to draft a player gives you: http://i43.tinypic.com/afaof8.jpg

If we banned everyone who was considered a crybaby bitch by another poster........ who would be left to post?;)

Adrian Peterson: Top 10 Pick
Jamaal Charles: 3rd round
McCoy: 2nd round
Foster: UDFA
Forte: 2nd round
MJD: 2nd round
Doug Martin: late first

Those are some of your best RBs in the game. Running backs are like linebackers--you don't need a really high pick to find a great one, and a lot of the first rounders end up being really, really overrated.

Not mad but when youve wanted Sanchez, Clausen, Gabbert, and Smith its time to give it a rest.

SNR is still a little sensitive about the last draft.

Now that Baldwin's gone, I don't bitch about anything any more.

You could become the 2013 "King of the N00bs". That would really piss people off.:)

LMAO, the team that drafted Weeden and Couch should just make sure to draft a QB in the 1st.

JFC you couldnt use a franchise with a worse QB drafting record to try to make a point. LMAO

Thread fail.

Trading for backups and signing middling veterans ALSO gives you that list, big guy.

Detmer
Wynn
Pederson
Holcomb
McCown
Garcia
Dilfer
Gradkowski
Delhomme
Wallace

All of those guys weren't drafted by the Browns. And a bunch of them, like Holcomb, Garcia, Dilfer, and Delhomme were acquired as stop-gaps so that the franchise could "learn to win" a little bit before finding a long-term answer at QB.

That list represents a mountain of a franchise failure more than it damns any one particular QB-developing strategy.

You know what's cute is a 49ers and Browns fan who has over 5,000 posts on a Chiefs message board in seven months. I would call you pathetic, but that would be insulting to people who are pathetic.

I didn't want Sanchez or Gabbert. And I wanted Eric Berry at #5 more than I wanted Jimmy Clausen.

See Post #127

HAHAHA. I should neg rep you for forgetting that they also traded up to get BRADY QUINN.......:banghead:

Anyone who thinks "just make sure to draft a 1st round QB" is the right answer is a dumbass.

Just like its not smart to never draft one.

Don't be obtuse.

Nobody here is "scared" to draft a 1st round QB, I wish posers would stop trying to sell that shit.

You do have to look at where you are drafting and have a plan, you dont just do it to do it. That rule doesn't apply to anything else in life, why people think that's just fine for drafting QB's is beyond me.

Its pure ignorant.

Awwww. Im touched. Clearly, even though I really have no idea who YOU are, you clearly have a hard on for me. Im impressed.

Im pathetic though?

Cool avatar none the same.....:D

Bob Dole?

well, I mean, I do apologize, I didn't realize I was on your list.

I don't intentionally go out of my way to piss people off.

It's OK. Just please don't use any of your super secret interwebs powers to try to track me down or anything. ;)

Fair enough haha.

"Don't just do it to do it."

THAT'S the language I disagree with. Post #127 just as easily shows that bringing in veterans and experienced backups is just as much of a crapshoot at righting the team's ship as it is to draft with the intent of finding your starting QB of the future.

Yes, you have to take into account a team's strengths and weaknesses. Yes, you have to be comfortable with the guy you're drafting. But generally, if you're in a position to decide if you should draft a franchise QB or not in the top 10, your team doesn't have very much going for it.

In Cleveland's case, there are some pieces to work with on defense. They have an offensive line. But they have no skill position players. And that's always kind of been their story. Veterans haven't turned shit around any more than their QB busts they've had.

So "don't do it just to do it" doesn't always safeguard against failure. And sometimes it's possible to put your team in an even DEEPER shit hole than it's already in if your safe non-QB isn't what you expected.

This is great news for the Browns. Now they get a RT and G in the 1st and trade a couple of 2nds to get Colt McCoy back!!!

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Joe Thomas and Jake Matthews. Hell yeah.
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Anyone watch the press conference?

They basically said anyone on the team is for sale.

I would jizz nucleur weapons if we made a trade for a guy like Alex Mack.

Albert
Hudson
Mack
Asamoah
Fisher

JIMP

I'd sniff around josh Gordon too

Alex Smith trade boning us once again. We don't have the ammo. We don't know if he have a second or a third next year.

Shaun Smith proved to the world that all you have to do to take down Mack is to grab his balls.

Do you think the Browns would take our 1st round pick for Joe Haden?

Haden for our first?

Done

:facepalm: Come on, man.

Holy shit!

NO!!!!!!!

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Joe Haden and Brandon Flowers. With Berry.

Houston and Hali. DJ.

Poe in the middle.

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You must always trade, and please remember to pull your shorts down and bend forward when you do.

"Drafting"?LMAO

I'd give em a first and change for Gordon and Mack.

I'm sure Mack is on the block. This is the last year of his rookie deal and he has dodged the question on if he will re-sign with Cleveland. I doubt Gordon is available for trade, but he sure would fit in nicely if he is available.

:D Welcome back Flop.

I doubt either is available and if they were I'd think it'd take more than that.


But I'd take one of Haden or Mack

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Because Carl Petersons 5 year plan is working so well?

They should trade for Cassel