Gonna have to rewatch now.

Whoever the **** you are.

He looked like Bartee against Dallas. Very poor.

He enters the Bosschief/Stanzi level of obsession (the negative angle) and it becomes all consuming to the point that sanity is left miles behind in the rear view mirror of mom's minivan. Curious to see if he'll also employ Bosschief's "lie and deny" approach after he has been emphatically proven wrong (few more weeks).

/you have a new friend request pending

Terrance Williams beat him three times.

You have a bad habit of comparing players to literally the worst version of their position.

NO ONE IS AS BAD AS WILLIAM BARTEE.

NO ONE.

Sean Smith is definitely going to have his Bartee days.

I'm guessing he looks exactly like Billy against Denver.

Williams had 3 for 28 yards is this really getting toasted?

Full season PFF numbers please for the third time, you can even cherry pick out the Dallas game if it's shitty (we already know you looked and it wasn't otherwise we would have seen them by now).

Giving up first downs is not good.

LOL PFF.
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Yes, he had a shitty rating against Dallas. I mean, did you watch the game? He was not good.

I do like the fact that he wasn't getting his ass beat by Riley Cooper and Jacksonville's scrubs, though. Maybe he has improved.

It happens dude. Smith wasn't the problem in the Cowboys game.

He had a poor game for sure, but was overshadowed by Flowers.

He had a poor game in your eyes. Go watch that game again Smith had a good game for a number 2 corner.

Lol, he did trip him up after he got pushed to the ground like a bitch.

When you are getting beat for a catch or penalized every time you are thrown at, that's poor.

Would have been even worse if the Cowboys hadn't decided to pick on Flowers.

By all means post them then, I mean they will obviously prove you were right all along...right?

I did watch the game and once again Smith has been on the TV screen for about 7 seconds throughout the entire season, don't see much TV coverage of Revis either. Things that make you go hmmmmm

-1.6 for Sean Smith against Dallas. Poor, poor effort.

Wasn't Houston's a zero or negative for that game? Does he also suck?

Season to date CB score and overall ranking for CBs?

Houston was pretty invisible against Dallas, too.

But he's been in beast mode the other two games.

Bartee read this and wanted to take a double-take, but couldn't turn his head.

One of those receptions was for 20 yards...

Full season PFF numbers for our cornerbacks:

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Brandon Flowers 77th/90 -2.5 overall; 68% completion percentage against his coverage; 97. QBR against his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Dunta Robinson 81st/90 -2.8 overall; 66.7% completion percentage against his coverage; 109.7 QBR against his coverage; 0 INT; 0 pass defensed

This includes the game against Dallas. Without it, Flowers' overall rating would be +1.3 and that would put him 30th/90 overall. The list is still pretty volatile and, of course, it doesn't account for the fact that Flowers goes up against the opponent's stud receiver more often than anyone else does.

Edit: Without Dallas, Sean Smith would have a +3.2 rating (8th/90)

The whole Fisher being horrible thing, how much of it can we attribute to him not playing his natural position?

LMAO they're definitely useful for certain things, but theres a large grain of truth here.

Good point. Here is another. AJ JENKINS is number 15 now :D

Thank you kind gentleman, I was about to drop the $29 but I already knew they would be solid just from GC ignoring my questions. Toying with Claynus is about as difficult as questioning a kindergartner about a missing cookie, his poker face is shit and he tells me everything by his responses or non-responses in this case.

I get the somewhat lawyer-ing up of your post with the Flowers/1wr info. It's clear that SS was a monster pickup and his play has been rock solid thus far and I highly suspect this will continue throughout the season.

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Sean Smith 21st/90 +2.0 overall; 41.2 % completion percentage against his coverage; 30.8 opposing QBR into his coverage; 1 INT; 1 pass defensed

Dude, I told you everything.

Sean Smith had a couple of good games against scrubs and was crappy against Dallas.

I expect more games like Dallas.

It's weird about PFF. Some people act as though it's the holy grail of football knowledge and is all righteous.

The flip side is people who dismiss the numbers entirely.

I'm not a fan of PFF's grading system because many times it's clearly flawed and that is often most true with defensive and offensive linemen. It's better at other positions, but in the trenches I dismiss the grades.

What I like is the various unofficial stats that give insight into performance: DB stats like QB rating against, completion percentage against, WR stats with attempts and catches, OL stats like sacks/hurries allowed... I think these are awesome and give an insight standard statistics do not give.

The grading system is fishy though because grading systems are always going to be subjective. Always.

This is where we always end up, so here is the question:

Is it possible at this point that you were completely wrong about SS and your projections about his performance with the Chiefs this season?

Nope. This is who Sean Smith is. We haven't seen the last of this.

http://i.imgur.com/H5jhntI.gif

Wow Beat for 15 yard gain he sucks. This happens to all corners Clay.

20-yard gain, on third down.

He's been giving up plays like that his whole career.

That's actually a really good pass....

It's a Bartee-esque play. He has no clue how to play the ball, never turns his head, etc.

Seriously, that was basically indefensible... Deion Revis wouldnt have stopped that.

But nevermind, Clays on a roll...

Somebody need to log into trollplanet

I'm really not a big fan of Smith, but that shit happens. It's common for DB's to play a WR's eyes rather than the ball in man coverage. Even if he played the ball, the pass location would have made it equally as hard to defend.

Really now, care to gif up his two picks? They were both (pretty sure but at least one) man coverage where he turned and picked it off which is something Bartee never did once in his entire ****ing career. SS did it his first or second game as a Chief.

This one will be fun this season, however I am pretty much convinced at this point you might have been right about Mcdickhead all along. My only confusion with him still is why every single coach seems to think he has this mass potential and are always trying to get him the ball. He must give the best hummers in history.

Don't sweat SS, I can already tell you're beginning to accept your fate on that one (in pissy fashion of course). That gifed pass completion was virtually indefensible unless the speed is skewing it, a rather ridiculous example to try and exploit and I'm sure you're well aware of this.

Geno will also prove you dead wrong in his career, all you have to do is watch his combine interview to see what a loser he'll end up being. It is so obvious he is trying to hide his true persona and fake everything for the cameras.

They were both horrible INTs thrown right to him. Very poor throws moreso than anything great that he did.

Nope, at least one was clearly man coverage where he stayed with the WR and then turned and picked it off. Might have been the preseason one, but it was totally a legit int and not a center field type one.

Ha, thanks NFLN. Back shoulder throw that would have been completed had SS not turned his head.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/kansas-cit...icks-off-McCoy

Edit, both were man coverage with head turns.

Time to take your meds Claynus

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...d-interception

Clay acts like corners should be like the rest of the board wishes the offensive line was like.

NO PASSES ALLOWED EVAR OR ELSE TEH SUCK!

Sean Smith should get a negative grade for that INT return alone.

Clay's great grandmother's corpse could have mustered up a better return than that.

I actually like Clay a lot as a poster, other than when he hits the Bosschief zone level of obsession without really any evidence to back it up.

His footwork is crap.

He won't give it up even if Smith has 9 picks this year. He'll find something wrong with all of them and Smith won't get any credit.

Fisher needs to put on weight though to be honest. He looks like a tall tight end in person. Adding another 15lbs would do him wonders. Being 6'7 and barely over 300lbs is not a good thing for an NFL tackle.

But in that GIF you can see how Fisher's suck has effected a play going to the opposite side. Charles has to slide to the left when he would've had a huge hole following Sherman if Fisher hadn't allowed his man to shove his shit back in.

Footwork is crap. Pad level is crap. Balance is crap. Hand technique is crap. Strength is crap. Leverage is crap.

That was a nice illegal cut block by Asamoah by the way..

He's played a couple of good games, and one bad one. Let's see what happens.

Funny that this COChief guy talks about obsession.

The guy has barely any posts and be mentions me in most of them even though I have no idea who he is.

Dude is creepy.

Had he looked like crap in preseason I'd be worried, but in preseason he was outstanding giving us no reason to be worried about him. I don't expect elite level play from Smith, but he's done more than enough to warrant a #2 CB on this team.

Damn, JC would have had a very decent hole to run through had it not been for Fisher's missed block.

Smith will be just fine. I'm glad we have him and I didn't think that would be the case when we first signed him.

Wow, what a surprise more lies from the pathological liar. You know god damn well who I am as I've successfully called you out on your bullshit and deception for the last year.

Why don't you tell me again how it's been "2-3 years" since you've championed Stanzi as a legit NFL starting QB and how Dane is a liar even though he is close to public enemy #1 at times on this site and yet in over a decade here I have never once seen anyone ever call him a liar about anything including living next to Cbrown and Lohan.

I consider you the most frightening and disturbed person on this board and if you can't process the gravity of that statement I feel even more sorry for you than I did before.

As far as post count, I value quality over quantity. If we subtracted all your thinly veiled "Please let Stanzi unzip so I "bow down" posts we would probably be about even. Moeaki and your shitstain QB are both gone, how long until you follow? You have never been or will be a Chiefs fan, you only showed up once Pissoli drafted your man crushes. They're gone, why don't you take your deception to the Jags board?

Holy shit. I can't believe the refs missed that.

Dude. Who cares the yards, honestly. Point is Dallas threw at him 6 times and capitalized 6 times.

When has BossChief ever used a "lie and deny" approach to being wrong? Never seem him do anything but own up.

Keep up or GTFO son, two provable lies (out of hundreds) right above you waiting. Or check the massive drama thread with Dane in the Spring if you want to see what I'm talking about.

Dane has a new friend request pending...

Did Houston even get his name called against Dallas? Or entire pass rush sucked outside of Poe. Dallas's Oline had a very good game.

Dane is a pretty ****ing huge dbag.

I'm going to say this as nicely as I can, you apparently do not have the mental capacity to participate in this discussion. The point was, GC said Smith sucks and points to only the Dallas game as proof (along with a laughable/indefensible example gif), I said Houston had an equally shitty PFF score (GC goto stat), if A (Smith) equals suck then does B (Houston) also equal suck?

Logic son: learn it, love it, live it.

PS You're better suited to poop threads

You still don't even know what you are talking about.

Since you seem hung up on this Facebook thing, why don't you ask Dane if I have ever sent him a Facebook friend request. Which is exactly what I've said all along. I don't even know who he is, nor do I care.

Some of you are straight up sad bringing up Stanzi.

Don't you have anything else to say that's even remotely interesting?

You act like I ****ed your wife and stole your dog or something.

You

You're an idiot. Your "logic" is amusing.

Uh, we did all ask Dane and he confirmed that when you were begging him for help that you sent him not only one, but a total of four FB friend requests. Then you called him a liar for the first time that I have ever seen when he's claimed a multi-million dollar residence, career, and neighbors of Cbrown and Lohan and I'm sure after a decade on this board and all of his grandoise claims that have never once been questioned that he picked you and your pathetic begging FB requests as his first lie.

You're a proven liar, psychopath, and a piece of garbage.

Does this sound like I'm begging for help?....or does it sound like Dane offering help...only to act like "I begged him for help" couple years later.

Please.


That was his first post in my thread.http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...7&postcount=35

Yeah, and the shitty part is that it made absolutely no sense for him to do that.

Hudson was handling his man- blowing him off the line of scrimmage. Looks like Asamoah had about 2 full yards to build up some steam and wreck shit on the second level..

Wow. That's pissing me off now that im thinking about it..

Apparently, that's not illegal. That very same block was deemed legal in the SF SEATTLE GAME.

You are allowed to essentially chop block a guy in the trenches. It ended up with Ian Williams on the IR with a broken ankle.....

How stupid is that?

Yeah, that's a legal block, but Goodell wants to make sure that running backs can't put their head down. And defensive backs cannot lead with their head, even if they use proper technique and can see what they are hitting, or target a "defenseless" receiver, but when they hit a receiver in the chest using their shoulder and hit them hard enough to separate them from the ball there is still a pretty good chance they get flagged or fined.

There are just some ass backwards calls. I know I about lost my mind in the Tampa New Orleans game when they called a personal foul on just a hellacious clean hit on Jimmy Graham.

They are ruining the league.

That's the definition of an illegal chop block. Defender already engaged with another blocker and hit below the waist by a second blocker. I'm sorry that Williams was injured and the refs missed the call, but don't be stupid.

Frightening?

BossChief???

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Seems wrong.

Great job by Hudson. Asamoah came in with what looks like an illegal chop block though.

That's ****ing dumb as $3it squared...

He plays too high, he doesn't drop-n-push, and he doesn't use his natural leg strength worth a $3it because of bad leverage.

This will have to be coached out of him...

Dude is a pimp.

By the end of the year most will be hanging from his balls...

The other thing to note is that they seem to run up the middle through the first 3 quarters, but when they decide to run the ball to eat up clock, they run left, behind Albert.

Hudson is inconsistent right mow, but I believe he'll be tearing shit up by the end of the season.