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Those that have said Cutler is better than Alex Smith.
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=289232)
Chicago's OL breaks down as 12th in run blocking and 18th in pass blocking.
Chiefs OL breaks down as 9th in run blocking and 25th in pass blocking. Now who has better protection when throwing the ball? |
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-rankings-2/4/ Both sites have them similarly ranked. |
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Similar attitudes and arms but that's it. |
It really is fantastic to see GoChiefs be wrong about damn near everything.
It's borderline impressive, really. |
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He simply cherry picks what he thinks supports the crayon and finger paint images in his head. |
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Was the line all pro? yeah probably not... but it WAS improved according to every single player and spokesman in that building. Bottom line... you know that Cutler underperforms and so does everyone else, with that particular team I bet Smitty has already locked up the NFCN. Defense you say? Smitty would protect that shit defense and help maximize them. Would both provide the same ultimate record? thats an honest question... I say no, the QB that moves the chains best is the QB that protects his crap defense the best... its symbiotic, man. With Smith, the Bears and their weapons... they're 10-4... he wont **** a team that good over, and he also wont underperform with them, either. |
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Cutler isn't all that but he's better than a guy who is afraid to throw the ball down the field and only ever wins because of defense. |
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He only wins when the D shows up. |
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Not true you said he couldn't throw more than 23 times a game and win or keep his turnover margin where it was. You were wrong. |
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Victory, TV. |
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Cutler SUCKS... Smith sucks.
If only someone could anonymously poll the Chiefs, or anyone elses, lockerroom... Cutler vs Smith LMAO It would be such a huge blowout, the kind of gaseous blowout on Uranus that only a gas giant like cosmo is capable of besting. Clay, you still havent said if you'd trade Cutler for Smith straight up right now, go ahead man, you've got nothing to lose... |
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They both underperform oftentimes. They just do it in different ways. This isn't really something I care to argue about but I'd have to disagree about Alex having already wrapped up that division. Their strength is in their offensive skill positions, which we know Alex wouldn't maximize. Marshall and Jeffery would become 600-900 yard 4-8 TD guys and their defense would still struggle. Do you honestly think Alex could beat Rodgers in a shootout twice a year? |
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Yea you did, you were looking at his attempts per game in SF and his low TO ratio. I think you even made some claim against Smith's win % over a certain number of pass attempts. You then looked at Reid's historical offensive pass attempts per game and started making all kinds of claims. It was the off season after we traded for him. There were several heated discussions about it. I remember it even if you don't. Then again you post so much BS I am sure it would be hard for you to remember it all. |
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All I ever said was he would not throw the ball down the field and we would not be productive on offense. Those things came true. |
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Fact is you have created threads singing his praises, like you did Cassel. You simply just go with the flow at the time. You are weak. |
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Weakling. Weak little guy who used to be fat. |
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By the way, personal insults are not appreciated. |
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Personal insults? You called me a dumb homer. Weak little used to be fat kid. |
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By the way, you are a dumb homer. That's not an insult. That is who you are. |
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That's not even difficult to understand. Showing your ass again. Later, been fun trolling the troll. |
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This was all discusses ad nauseum when he was in Denver. He has the kind that makes it harder, almost impossible, to regulate your sugar levels especially when you are drunk. What happens when he passes out from being drunk and doesn't check his sugar? It is very easy for him to end up in a coma or worse. |
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PFF Chicago OL is ranked 13th best on pass pro efficiency right now... KC ranks 25th. Outsiders Chicago OL is ranked 18th best on pass pro efficiency right now... KC ranks 25th. :doh!: |
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I dont pretend to know the extent of Cutler's drinking (and I doubt anyone else here does either) so I just dont know where all this fits in the discussion. Cutler is clearly a dumbass and has attitude issues regardless. |
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cutler is a piece of shit and has made a career out of garbage time TDs
Did you guys watch the thanksgiving game? Down 2+ scores, 1 minute left, he was soooooooo pumped about trying to get a garbage time TD, no huddle, completely emphatic, milked that last 60 seconds for like 5 real time minutes... and then ended up throwing a pick at the very end anyway. He's a complete bonehead. |
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Cutler is like Romo with a better arm but even worse decision making abilities... I'm going to take the guy capable of keeping defenses from going in dry every single time... just give my offense a shot. |
there are a "handful" of qbs that could beat rodgers in a shootout.
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I blame Alex's short passing on Reid.. last year there was a point where he talked about Alex pushing it down the field more. He worked on it, and Alex did. And he was largely successful at it.. look at the playoff game for example.
This year, I think Reid has decided his WR's are shit and is giving Alex instructions to play very safe. Once we get behind, all of a sudden he can find the gumption to go down field, and largely successfully. I blame coaching entirely this year. |
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He is who he is. He will never change. He could make Megatron look pedestrian. |
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Fair enough. You're comparing Cutler to Romo, though, and that isn't really helping your argument. Romo is, and has been, a great QB. |
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The one thing in common for sure is that both have been given loaded offenses that they couldnt get over the hump... we can digress into "what about the defense" stuff all night long, but we cant have our cake and eat it, too. Its a symbiotic thing to some extent no matter how badly we all want to separate the two to make our various arguments... if they both had dialed it down to the dreaded checkdown more often, their names probably wouldnt be so synonomous with fail. I love the big play with all my heart, watching a guy like Rodgers for instance makes me say "see! thats how the mfing game is played!"... hence my continued crush on Bray/Cutler? lol... but still, theres so much more to it all than that and you certainly know it. Its called playing football and not long ball, for a reason... |
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The reason I have such a hard time comparing the two is because of what is asked of each of them. If Cutler was given the instruction by his coaches "do not turn the ball over. Dont worry about throwing touchdowns, getting first downs or anything aside from not throwing an interception" maybe he would look better than he does.
Alex is literally asked to do less than almost every starting quarterback in the league. Who knows if quarterbacks who are asked to do more could be successful playing Alex ball. My guess is they would, but its nothing more than that. A guess. |
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TDs Rodgers = 1 TD per 13 attempts Manning = 1 TD per 13.9 attempts Brady = 1 TD per 16.6 attempts Brees = 1 TD per 18.7 attempts INTs Rodgers = 1 INT per 91.6 attempts Manning = 1 INT per 46.9 attempts Brady = 1 INT per 66.3 attempts Brees =1 INT per 39.01 attempts |
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Cutler has never won without a top 5 defense. |
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Two differing flavors of vomit.
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He is literally the same guy he's been all this time. The only difference is the coaching staff decided to smarten up and use that offensive line they'd been investing in so heavily along with Murray, who was criminally underused last season. I don't have the exact stats but last season the Cowboys ran the ball something ridiculously low like 36% of the time when they had the lead. Anybody that watched could have told you they had a top 5 back in Murray waiting for the opportunity. In short, the Cowboys just aren't asking Romo to carry the team anymore and now you're seeing how good he was this entire time. |
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He also has a weaker brain, is an awful leader, and throws a shit ton of interceptions. Alex had bad luck with OC's, while Jay Cutler IS bad luck for OC's. He gets guys fired and they don't work in the NFL again, just like Faulk said. I think Cutler has more physical ability than Alex Smith. As a pragmatic results oriented person, I'd much rather have Alex on my team because he won't go out and lose games with boneheaded grbac style bullshit... though it's kinda like choosing between a hard shit sandwich and a soft shit sandwich. I'd rather have food instead of shit. For you stupid ones, Alex and Cutler are the shit. I AM NOT AN ALEX SMITH FAN. |
I dunno about "weaker brain." Alex struggles reading defenses. Sure, it doesn't lead to INTs...it just leads to sacks and pointless scrambles.
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...this is siily.
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I bet the Packers are really happy about Clausen starting this week.
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But come the end of the day as much as I hate to admit it the second post is pretty close. One is projectile vomit that burns and hurts and is over quickly the other you have to be patient and let it come on out of there over several attempts. |
mccown is better than cutler
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So I'd rather have Smith. Now if I had Randy Moss or some other cheat code WR in their prime, I'd rather have Cutler. Cos he has a stronger arm and ALL HE HAS TO DO is throw it up there. On a team with a bad OL and bad WR's I'd take Alex every time. |
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I compared them to two differing consistencies of shit sandwiches, but close enough. |
Some serious beat downs happened in this thread. Cuttards in full pout mode.
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Jay Cutler is the second coming of Jeff George
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On pure talent, Cutler is better.
Cutler is a heartless dipshit, though. |
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Always looks detached and completely remorseless for how bad he's ****ing up everything. Maybe it's just his droopy dumb face, but he gives off a serious '**** it' vibe. Alex is just a pussy though. He may have "heart" so to speak, but you wouldn't know it by his play. Dipshit or pussy? Tough call. |
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