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Hammock Parties 02-22-2015 11:40 PM

http://i.imgur.com/xbJeP1Y.jpg

Prison Bitch 02-23-2015 11:59 AM

Great crop of nominees this year. A banner list. I saw them all but the Julianne Moore movie since I cannot stand even 1 second of looking at her nasty face.


Birdman is one of the best movies I've ever seen. Glad it won.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11342424)
Sooooooooooooooooooo... Has anybody else had the TV taken-over to watch the Oscars?

Yup! Due to my efforts, thankfully!

He fell asleep though.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11343129)
Great crop of nominees this year. A banner list. I saw them all but the Julianne Moore movie since I cannot stand even 1 second of looking at her nasty face.


Birdman is one of the best movies I've ever seen. Glad it won.

Never saw it. I suspected it would win because it's about those in that profession. I really wanted The Imitation Game to win. I thought it was the best movie I saw this year.

Aside from that I am so glad Eddie Redmayne won best actor. I just wish his co-star also won. Julianne Moore winning, I was wtf?

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11342439)
This x200000000. But there's no keeping them to just acting I guess!

Do you feel that way about Clint Eastwood?

keg in kc 02-23-2015 12:44 PM

I have never cared less about the oscars than this year.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11342567)
The Oscars, where hollywood gives awards to itself and tells itself about it's greatness.


:rolleyes:

I see it as a peer review system—not what is most popular. ( even if some overlap at times) Most industry awards are like that. They have them in advertising where the annual winners often lose the accounts afterwards. LMAO

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11342615)

I LOVED the watercolor/photo graphics they did for that segment of the show.

Eleazar 02-23-2015 12:51 PM

http://rs1225.pbsrc.com/albums/ee393...1Curr.gif~c200

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11342660)
She did great.

I was really surprised at how beautiful her voice was compared to usual numbers.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 11342671)
Aren't you a woman? Why wouldn't you support getting paid the same amount of money for the same job?

Goes in DC.

eDave 02-23-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343196)
I was really surprised at how beautiful her voice was compared to usual numbers.

Its almost like all the Lady Gaga outfits and stunts where just an act!

Here's the talent:

<iframe width="600" height="450" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HmtOEEaQJZM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="600" height="450" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oj0YjGKqauw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="600" height="450" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/RH0-L1yHFGA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hfvib

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11343202)
Its almost like all the Lady Gaga outfits and stunts where just an act!

I found it interesting that she's the first person I can recall who sang the songs with Julie's enunciations and phrasings.

Full performance, no embedding.

http://jezebel.com/lady-gaga-solves-...und-1687385358

WhawhaWhat 02-23-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11343202)
Its almost like all the Lady Gaga outfits and stunts where just an act!

Here's the talent:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/zeD-8oVc6O8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

GloryDayz 02-23-2015 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11343129)
Great crop of nominees this year. A banner list. I saw them all but the Julianne Moore movie since I cannot stand even 1 second of looking at her nasty face.


Birdman is one of the best movies I've ever seen. Glad it won.

Birdman is on my list now. I'll just try to forget the clown who made it.

oldandslow 02-23-2015 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343196)
I was really surprised at how beautiful her voice was compared to usual numbers.

Yeah, me too. She absolutely nailed that last nite. Sounded more like Julie Andrews than Julie Andrews.

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343371)
Birdman is on my list now. I'll just try to forget the clown who made it.

The guy is a pill, there's an extra on Children of Men lauding itself to the heavens for being a call to arms on the imminent apocalypse of global warming.

Reaper16 02-23-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11343418)
The guy is a pill, there's an extra on Children of Men lauding itself to the heavens for being a call to arms on the imminent apocalypse of global warming.

Children of Men is a Cuaron film.

But yeah, I've suffered through that 40 min bonus feature too. So. Much. Zizek.

GloryDayz 02-23-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343185)
Do you feel that way about Clint Eastwood?

Yes. All of them, and folks in the music industry (all entertainers pretty-much) should just do their trade then go away. They all lead lives that are so far from reality that even they should understand they're views are skewed..

If they want to make a politically interesting movie/song, go for it, just leave it at that.

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 03:51 PM

What's interesting is how these political speeches in recent years seem to have eroded/muddled whether they are talking about society or their trade.

For instance Arquette's equal pay screed. Who was that for? What action was it seeking to initiate?

Her industry, from set and crew right on up, not just the stars, is one of the worst in the country for wage inequality. But at least from the box office side, that's just a fiscal reality of meritocracy.

But if she's talking about society in general, what was the impetus? I admit I might not be aware of how much Boyhood is about mom's money troubles. But it didn't seem like a message movie until Arquette made it one.

It seems like we are entering an era where statements don't have to have gravitas or substance or coherence. Just a set of code words that indicate you are down.

Acceptance speech 2016 - "Gay people, single mothers, the homeless, good night . . . "

Next day, a wall of buzz about the pressing issues Acceptance Speech brought to prominence. Social media high fives itself endlessly for being down with Acceptance Speech's message.

Hammock Parties 02-23-2015 04:00 PM

The reason people do that is strictly money. They don't actually care about those causes. They're just appealing to a demographic. This is especially true in the case of the MLK movie and the Glory song. It's masterfully executed.

Arquette's speech was especially amusing considering THE MOVIE WAS ABOUT A BOY.

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11343513)
The reason people do that is strictly money. They don't actually care about those causes. They're just appealing to a demographic. This is especially true in the case of the MLK movie and the Glory song. It's masterfully executed.

Arquette's speech was especially amusing considering THE MOVIE WAS ABOUT A BOY.

To her credit, she was probably drunk

Hammock Parties 02-23-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11343514)
To her credit, she was probably drunk

The irony is that Hollywood is still racist as ****.

The cast of Birdman was ALL WHITE.

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11343520)
The irony is that Hollywood is still racist as ****.

The cast of Birdman was ALL WHITE.

They are forced to be racist sexist and classist. The ticket buying public demands it. They only buy tickets to white man action movies.

Hammock Parties 02-23-2015 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11343550)
They are forced to be racist sexist and classist. The ticket buying public demands it. They only buy tickets to white man action movies.

Will Smith, Denzel Washington, Eddie Murphy and Samuel L Jackson say hello.

In fact I'm pretty sure Focus is about to be a huge hit. Granted a large part of that is because of the pretty white woman in it. LMAO

Beef Supreme 02-23-2015 04:32 PM

The Oscars are the vocational equivalent of the Walmart employee of the month.

Prison Bitch 02-23-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343371)
Birdman is on my list now. I'll just try to forget the clown who made it.

Just have to ignore the far Left political bullshit or just stop seeing movies entirely. I don't pay to see movie like "Selma" or "Brokeback" or Michael Moore docs. But I won't swear off movies either.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandslow (Post 11343373)
Yeah, me too. She absolutely nailed that last nite. Sounded more like Julie Andrews than Julie Andrews.

Ayup!

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 05:16 PM

I went to look up who made Birdman, due to preceding posts, and look at what came up in the listing at Fortune magazine:
Birdman is one of the lowest-grossing Oscar Best Picture winners ever
Only one film from the past four decades made less money at the box office on its way to a Best Picture Oscar.
http://fortune.com/2015/02/23/birdma...-winners-ever/

I know these are peer generated awards and not necessarily what is most popular among the people but I thought it was interesting. Maybe the Oscars will give it a bump which happens.

The last highest-grossing film that won Best Picture Oscar was in 2003—The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. $500 million.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 05:23 PM

From same Fortune article
 
Apparently American Sniper got a bump from the nomination with most of it coming post nomination:

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Higher-grossing films it beat: American Sniper. Bradley Cooper's portrayal of famed Navy Seal Chris Kyle continues to draw crowds to movie theaters. The Clint Eastwood-directed film has already grossed nearly $320 million — and, most of it has come since Oscar nominations were announced.

Deberg_1990 02-23-2015 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11343495)

But if she's talking about society in general, what was the impetus? I admit I might not be aware of how much Boyhood is about mom's money troubles. But it didn't seem like a message movie until Arquette made it one.

Actually it was more about her characters poor choice in men. All 4 men she hooked up in the movie were losers.

2 alcoholics, 1 who wanted her to ditch her kid to pay more attention to him and Ethan Hawkes father was sort of a drifter loser for years.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 05:25 PM

I am going to see Whiplash as a result of the Oscars. Never heard of it earlier.

Prison Bitch 02-23-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343180)
Never saw it. I suspected it would win because it's about those in that profession. I really wanted The Imitation Game to win. I thought it was the best movie I saw this year.

Aside from that I am so glad Eddie Redmayne won best actor. I just wish his co-star also won. Julianne Moore winning, I was wtf?

Meh. All he did was lean his head on his shoulder and garble in heavy English that nobody could understand. Plus I don't like Hawking or his acolytes so that movie was blah. The lead actress was very good however.

Reaper16 02-23-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One (Post 11343513)
The reason people do that is strictly money. They don't actually care about those causes. They're just appealing to a demographic. This is especially true in the case of the MLK movie and the Glory song. It's masterfully executed.

This is some heavy cynicism. Damn.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11343676)
Meh. All he did was lean his head on his shoulder and garble in heavy English that nobody could understand. Plus I don't like Hawking or his acolytes so that movie was blah. The lead actress was very good however.

I don't think it was the best movie, I just thought his acting was the best. I love his acting anyway. Then again, I love British accents. I liked the Imitation Game more than The Theory of Everything, but I was curious about Hawking's personal life.

Prison Bitch 02-23-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343647)
I went to look up who made Birdman, due to preceding posts, and look at what came up in the listing at Fortune magazine:
Birdman is one of the lowest-grossing Oscar Best Picture winners ever
Only one film from the past four decades made less money at the box office on its way to a Best Picture Oscar.
http://fortune.com/2015/02/23/birdma...-winners-ever/

I know these are peer generated awards and not necessarily what is most popular among the people but I thought it was interesting. Maybe the Oscars will give it a bump which happens.

The last highest-grossing film that won Best Picture Oscar was in 2003—The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. $500 million.


The movie just came out in Oct so it's not goi to have a big box office. It's been gaining steam and obv last night helped dramatically


I feel a profound sense of sorrow for any loser over age 20 who actually went to any LOTR movie.

GloryDayz 02-23-2015 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11343577)
Just have to ignore the far Left political bullshit or just stop seeing movies entirely. I don't pay to see movie like "Selma" or "Brokeback" or Michael Moore docs. But I won't swear off movies either.

Yeah, I don't see many movies, and Birdman looks like one I'd like to see, but you're right you just have to move passed the folks who make them.

I'd also like to see "Into The Woods" and "The Grand Budapest Hotel" too. They both look awesome..

BigRedChief 02-23-2015 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343192)
I LOVED the watercolor/photo graphics they did for that segment of the show.

Screw that. I want to see them in the scenes/movies that are the reason I care they are dead. Not some watercolor drawing.

GloryDayz 02-23-2015 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343664)
I am going to see Whiplash as a result of the Oscars. Never heard of it earlier.

I'm going to schedule guy's night out with the son during next year's Oscars....

BigRedChief 02-23-2015 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11343577)
Just have to ignore the far Left political bullshit or just stop seeing movies entirely. I don't pay to see movie like "Selma" or "Brokeback" or Michael Moore docs. But I won't swear off movies either.

You put a microphone in front of me and a BILLION people are going to hear my words, I'm going to say something other than thanking the wife and parents.

If anyone is swayed in their beliefs because the person doing the swaying is an actor, that's on them..

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343785)
Yeah, I don't see many movies, and Birdman looks like one I'd like to see, but you're right you just have to move passed the folks who make them.

I'd also like to see "Into The Woods" and "The Grand Budapest Hotel" too. They both look awesome..

I liked GBH a lot, but I'm a sucker for Wes Anderson's attention to detail. I'd say it suffers compared to his other works in terms of plot, so if you aren't enamored of the look of his films, you will probably end up wondering why you watched.

GloryDayz 02-23-2015 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11343794)
I liked GBH a lot, but I'm a sucker for Wes Anderson's attention to detail. I'd say it suffers compared to his other works in terms of plot, so if you aren't enamored of the look of his films, you will probably end up wondering why you watched.

I rarely get angry at movies, not matter what I just got ~2 hours with the phones off.

Baby Lee 02-23-2015 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343812)
I rarely get angry at movies, not matter what I just got ~2 hours with the phones off.

I'd say if you enjoyed Moonrise Kingdom at all you'll have enough fun with GBH

BigRedChief 02-23-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343812)
I rarely get angry at movies, not matter what I just got ~2 hours with the phones off.

I get pissed at endings.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343785)
Yeah, I don't see many movies, and Birdman looks like one I'd like to see, but you're right you just have to move passed the folks who make them.

I'd also like to see "Into The Woods" and "The Grand Budapest Hotel" too. They both look awesome..

I wanted to see that when it first came out but due to my travel schedule never got the time. Then it left the cinemas. It's right up my ally, especially with the art direction or set design and costumes. Looks very visual.

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11343787)
Screw that. I want to see them in the scenes/movies that are the reason I care they are dead. Not some watercolor drawing.

If you want that, it would seriously lengthen the Oscar ceremony which has had complaints in the past of being too long.
I'm sure that audience were already familiar with the works of those people anyway.

chiefsfan987 02-23-2015 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11343371)
Birdman is on my list now. I'll just try to forget the clown who made it.

Every movie that was in the category with it for best picture was better imo. I wish I wouldnt have wasted my money on it.

Prison Bitch 02-23-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11343906)
I wanted to see that when it first came out but due to my travel schedule never got the time. Then it left the cinemas. It's right up my ally, especially with the art direction or set design and costumes. Looks very visual.

It's definitely a movie that you'd like, based on your postings here. It's hilarious and I'm glad I finished it because the first 20 min I couldn't wait to turn it off. It was sorta slapstick with funky music, but then it really picks up steam.


I never saw Imitation Game. Is that the movie where the Brits discriminate against the girl who's smarter than all the boys, and the gay who's smarter than all the straights - who overcome it all to defeat the Nazis?

GloryDayz 02-23-2015 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan987 (Post 11343934)
Every movie that was in the category with it for best picture was better imo. I wish I wouldnt have wasted my money on it.

Hey, I'm a lover not a hater...

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11343936)
...

I never saw Imitation Game. Is that the movie where the Brits discriminate against the girl who's smarter than all the boys, and the gay who's smarter than all the straights - who overcome it all to defeat the Nazis?

Well, sorta...but it wasn't the Brits that discriminate against the girl. It was more her own parents. Yes, it is agay who cracks the code, but it's awesome how he comes to figure it out. ( unless that was just for drama ) It's still an excellent story. Much better than The Theory of Everything, which was good but The Interview was riveting.

I like history-based films, creative non-fiction as well as historical fiction. They usually get me motivated to study an era or event to check out more since these can use artistic license for dramatic effect.

eDave 02-23-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11344560)
... The Interview was riveting.

What?!

BucEyedPea 02-23-2015 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11344589)
What?!

Oops! Good catch. I meant the The Imitation Game. For some reason I keep calling it that, even here in person. Probably because it starts and ends with an interview. ( well really it's an interrogation or police questioning)

Prison Bitch 02-24-2015 08:21 AM

Then what the gay part for? Is it part of the story or unnecessary?

BucEyedPea 02-24-2015 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11344853)
Then what the gay part for? Is it part of the story or unnecessary?

It is part of the story—that story. It's true about the guy's life and what happened to him later despite his massive contribution to the war effort.

Besides every film director puts his stamp on a story.

Baby Lee 02-25-2015 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11343846)
I'd say if you enjoyed Moonrise Kingdom at all you'll have enough fun with GBH

A little analysis that doesn't spoil too much

<iframe src="//player.vimeo.com/video/119754714" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe>

BigRedChief 02-25-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11344853)
Then what the gay part for? Is it part of the story or unnecessary?

He basically came up with the idea and built the first computer. Invented a mathematics solution that's still used today. Saved MILLIONS of lives when he broke the enigma code.

As payback for his contribution to making the world a better and safer place he was chemically castrated by his government because he was a pervert, you know gay. Yeah, I'd say its relevant to telling his story.

eDave 02-26-2015 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11347957)
He basically came up with the idea and built the first computer. Invented a mathematics solution that's still used today. Saved MILLIONS of lives when he broke the enigma code.

As payback for his contribution to making the world a better and safer place he was chemically castrated by his government because he was a pervert, you know gay. Yeah, I'd say its relevant to telling his story.

So wait, this movie was made about a man and the argument is that the movie was made about a man?

CP is a trip sometimes.

Deberg_1990 03-02-2025 08:05 PM

Anyone else watching tonight??

RealSNR 03-02-2025 10:21 PM

Congratulations to Joe Burrow's brother

KC_Connection 03-02-2025 10:23 PM

I liked Anora. Had sort of a In Bruges vibe to the 2nd half of that movie, very funny.

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17985608)
I liked Anora. Had sort of a In Bruges vibe to the 2nd half of that movie, very funny.

A shoutout to the sex worker community????

Woof…..


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mikey Madison won the Oscar for best actress and gave a shout out to the sex worker community.<br><br>“I just want to recognize and honor the sex worker community. Yes. I will continue to support and be an ally. All of the incredible people, the women that I’ve had the privilege of… <a href="https://t.co/zTeaps4qgP">pic.twitter.com/zTeaps4qgP</a></p>&mdash; Variety (@Variety) <a href="https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1896406647901241639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Red Dawg 03-03-2025 08:14 AM

The show is now for weirdos.

RedinTexas 03-03-2025 08:47 AM

The Oscars have been garbage for a very long time, but when they did absolutely nothing about Will Smith assaulting Chris Rock, they reached a new low. Smith should have been taken out in handcuffs.

RedRaider56 03-03-2025 11:26 AM

Last night's show wasn't too bad regarding political statements/theater. A few digs here and there.
I haven't seen any of the movies that were up for awards last night. I've been meaning to watch Dune 2 but haven't gotten around to it.

fan4ever 03-03-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11342715)
Ok, Birdman is on my list.

Saw that the year it won for best movie. Watched it, looked at my wife and said "WTF"?

The last movie I enjoyed that won for best movie was "Greenbook" some years back.

wazu 03-03-2025 11:47 AM

If I try to even think of a movie that was released in the past year right now all I've got is that new Captain America movie that is about a guy who isn't the same Captain America in the Avengers but I guess uses his shield or something.

Also, why does Deberg hate sex workers?

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17985874)

Also, why does Deberg hate sex workers?

I don’t. It’s just a weird thing to give praise to.

chiefzilla1501 03-03-2025 11:52 AM

Conan is just a different level type of entertainer. They haven’t had a host since Billy crystal that can command an audience in the same way. I usually do not watch but watched it purely for him and fast forwarded through most of the other bits

Unfortunately the movies aren’t the same caliber. This modern era, we don’t have the same caliber of movie stars and all the different formats have made for some great movies… but nothing that stands out as generational. Anora for example was a great movie, but not one we’re going to revisit even a few years from now.

chiefzilla1501 03-03-2025 12:00 PM

Maybe it’s a sign we’re moving in the right direction. Think we’re finally all Marveled out and last night they didn’t give the very best awards to wicked and A complete unknown. And instead rewarded complete originality. I love Dylan but biopics too often get over rewarded even though they’re not nearly as original. The big winners were the brutalist and anora which are a little boring Oscar’s wise, but at least the writing and performances were highly original.

Unfortunately I think dune 2 was squeezed out for that reason. I saw that in the theater and it was an absolute spectacle

Frazod 03-03-2025 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRaider56 (Post 17985845)
Last night's show wasn't too bad regarding political statements/theater. A few digs here and there.
I haven't seen any of the movies that were up for awards last night. I've been meaning to watch Dune 2 but haven't gotten around to it.

I recently noticed that Dune Part 2 is on Netflix now. If you've never read the book or if the book isn't terribly important to you, you'll likely enjoy it. But if you love the book and were finally hoping for a faithful, competent adaptation, you'll be really pissed off. I personally hated it so much that I haven't been to movie theater since I saw it.

Not familiar with anything else that was nominated. Haven't watched the Oscars in years. No plans to ever watch it again.

Pennywise 03-03-2025 12:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2 reasons not to watch the Oscars <a href="https://t.co/ySIc9k3LMr">pic.twitter.com/ySIc9k3LMr</a></p>&mdash; JohnRocker (@itsJohnRocker) <a href="https://twitter.com/itsJohnRocker/status/1896337591701840267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RedRaider56 03-03-2025 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17985902)
I recently noticed that Dune Part 2 is on Netflix now. If you've never read the book or if the book isn't terribly important to you, you'll likely enjoy it. But if you love the book and were finally hoping for a faithful, competent adaptation, you'll be really pissed off. I personally hated it so much that I haven't been to movie theater since I saw it.

Not familiar with anything else that was nominated. Haven't watched the Oscars in years. No plans to ever watch it again.

I read the book back in high school, eons ago and have forgotten most of the details, but remember the basic story line.
I saw the original Dune movie with Kyle MacLachlan and it was absolutely horrific.
When I saw the new Dune, I was like well this is better than the first attempt! :)

kysirsoze 03-03-2025 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17985877)
I don’t. It’s just a weird thing to give praise to.

It wasn't praise, it was support.

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17985983)
It wasn't praise, it was support.

Her words “ I just want to recognize and honor the sex worker community”

Maybe it was a poor choice of words? But whatever….

PunkinDrublic 03-03-2025 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17985885)
Maybe it’s a sign we’re moving in the right direction. Think we’re finally all Marveled out and last night they didn’t give the very best awards to wicked and A complete unknown. And instead rewarded complete originality. I love Dylan but biopics too often get over rewarded even though they’re not nearly as original. The big winners were the brutalist and anora which are a little boring Oscar’s wise, but at least the writing and performances were highly original.

Unfortunately I think dune 2 was squeezed out for that reason. I saw that in the theater and it was an absolute spectacle

The Covenant is supposed to be really good.

Frazod 03-03-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RedRaider56 (Post 17985975)
I read the book back in high school, eons ago and have forgotten most of the details, but remember the basic story line.
I saw the original Dune movie with Kyle MacLachlan and it was absolutely horrific.
When I saw the new Dune, I was like well this is better than the first attempt! :)

The ironic thing is that the '84 movie doesn't butcher the book anywhere near as bad as the new one does. It was poorly made, poorly directed, had terrible special effects, had miscast/bad actors in crucial roles, and threw in some stupid shit, but overall it stuck to the story fairly well.

I actually think more highly of the '84 movie after seeing the latest one. THAT'S HOW MUCH I HATED IT. :#

There's a thread in the Media forum where I discuss at length why Dune Part 2 sucks every dick in the universe. I really don't want to relive that here anymore than I already have.

kysirsoze 03-03-2025 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17985882)
Conan is just a different level type of entertainer. They haven’t had a host since Billy crystal that can command an audience in the same way. I usually do not watch but watched it purely for him and fast forwarded through most of the other bits

Unfortunately the movies aren’t the same caliber. This modern era, we don’t have the same caliber of movie stars and all the different formats have made for some great movies… but nothing that stands out as generational. Anora for example was a great movie, but not one we’re going to revisit even a few years from now.

I personally don't think it's an erosion of quality. I think all of the different ways to consume media mean we have so many options, outside of big marvel style tent poles, that we don't have the same shared cultural experience that we used to. If Anora came out in 1999 and got the wide release of American Beauty, it might be more of what you would call generational. Also, I think that awards are more likely to reward movies that are challenging than they used to be. Those movies are also likely to be more divisive. Finally, technology advances in home viewing have killed the big awards movie. Basically, the market for big time blockbuster movies that have heart, but don't piss too many people off has dried up. Those types of movies go to streaming and the effects showcases go to the theater. Or if they go to a theater, it's with a limited run because people just don't go.

chiefzilla1501 03-03-2025 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17985996)
I personally don't think it's an erosion of quality. I think all of the different ways to consume media mean we have so many options, outside of big marvel style tent poles, that we don't have the same shared cultural experience that we used to. If Anora came out in 1999 and got the wide release of American Beauty, it might be more of what you would call generational. Also, I think that awards are more likely to reward movies that are challenging than they used to be. Those movies are also likely to be more divisive. Finally, technology advances in home viewing have killed the big awards movie. Basically, the market for big time blockbuster movies that have heart, but don't piss too many people off has dried up. Those types of movies go to streaming and the effects showcases go to the theater. Or if they go to a theater, it's with a limited run because people just don't go.

I think there was a very significant erosion in quality especially with Covid forcing producers to embrace the new reality of movie theaters. Great scripts dont always get matched with the best directors who pump $ into a star studded cast. So the market was flooded with marvel movies and sequels and kids movies.Agreed there were still great films from independent directors and it’s good to see the industry embrace them, but it feels like we’re finally hitting that happy medium again where a producer can get behind an original movie without the blockbuster gimmicks. I feel like this year was a really good step in the right direction for movies even if the top billing at the Oscar’s was a little underwhelming.

And credit to the Oscar’s for leaning into that. They seemed to very intentionally reward originality. Dune 2 was your Oppenheimer spectacle. A complete unknown was your standard overrewarded biopic like the overrated Elton John/queen movies (shame, since the complete unknown is legitimately good). Wicked is kind of that Barbie blockbuster. Anora and the brutalist are way more of a gimmick free movie which is a little refreshing.

Deberg_1990 03-03-2025 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17985996)
I personally don't think it's an erosion of quality. I think all of the different ways to consume media mean we have so many options, outside of big marvel style tent poles, that we don't have the same shared cultural experience that we used to. If Anora came out in 1999 and got the wide release of American Beauty, it might be more of what you would call generational. Also, I think that awards are more likely to reward movies that are challenging than they used to be. Those movies are also likely to be more divisive. Finally, technology advances in home viewing have killed the big awards movie. Basically, the market for big time blockbuster movies that have heart, but don't piss too many people off has dried up. Those types of movies go to streaming and the effects showcases go to the theater. Or if they go to a theater, it's with a limited run because people just don't go.

Yes you’re right. The only big budget movies in the best picture category this year were Dune 2 and Wicked. Both established name IPs already. Everything else is basically an Independent film or low budget.

Foe the most part, People only go out to movie theaters anymore for the big budget
Blockbusters.

chiefzilla1501 03-03-2025 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17985994)
The ironic thing is that the '84 movie doesn't butcher the book anywhere near as bad as the new one does. It was poorly made, poorly directed, had terrible special effects, had miscast/bad actors in crucial roles, and threw in some stupid shit, but overall it stuck to the story fairly well.

I actually think more highly of the '84 movie after seeing the latest one. THAT'S HOW MUCH I HATED IT. :#

There's a thread in the Media forum where I discuss at length why Dune Part 2 sucks every dick in the universe. I really don't want to relive that here anymore than I already have.

I’ve never read the books so that would make sense. I thought it was incredibly directed with musical scores and everything, but yeah that would be frustrating if it veers way too far off course.

Have you watched the Max prophecy show? I’ve found it incredibly boring but imagine it’s much closer to the books.


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