Has anyone discussed what we might read from the tea leaves when the teams he chose between were the Jaguars and the Browns...?

You mean the vague blurb about how the Ravens might look at "guys like" Bowe and Mike Wallace after they got cut? That's what you're clinging to?

$6m for Harvin's recent production isn't a bargain basement deal, by any stretch of the imagination.

Look, I've got nothing against Bowe. He's just nowhere near the player he was, and so many of you seem to think he still is, and his market seems to have reflected that.

LMAO I'm laughing at your obvious dumbassery.

I don't think he's the player he WAS.

I also don't think he's as bad as his last season dictates, nor does he deserve the hate from some of these idiots who've been waiting for this day for years.

This.

I've already stated multiple times that at best he's a good #2 WR.

Didn't they just get rid of Greg Little last year?

Bullshit.

How many balls do you think he dropped last season?

Why do you feel bad for him?

He just got overpaid by KC and had a chance to bolt to anywhere needing a #1 receiver.

Anyone know what our cap hit is on him?

Thanks, i appreciate it.

I believe we elected to take the entire hit this year.


9 million-ish?

I've always had a soft spot for bowe, so I wish him well

Can we not agree that, for whatever reason, Bowe and the Chiefs offensive style were not well matched? I think his time/productivity for the Chiefs was pretty much over. I suspect he'll do better somewhere else.......even in Cleveland.

Good luck to the man.

8.8 million this year. I'm wondering if he ****ed himself by not renegotiating. He's not going to a better team. That's for sure.

Because he never complained about the dog turds throwing to him. He busted his ass for us, and I don't pin nearly half the blame on him for his stats last year.

We can agree if you break that down one step further and say Bowe doesn't match Alex Smith's style. Reid and Dorsey loved him.

I don't know. Frankly, I don't recall any memorable ones from last year.
I do know that the official NFL stats on 'drops' are BS. They basically don't count it a 'drop' unless the ball hits you square in the numbers and you don't catch it.

Oh, well I'm sure he had at least 100, then...

ROFL Funny shit...

He clucked himself by getting arrested, if you want to take things out to their logical conclusion.

Yep. By all accounts he was a great teammate and was very good blocking in the run game and never complained.

He was a solid guy and a solid WR and all the usual turds here can do is shit on him because he dropped a pass.

And pointed to his Nameplate.

Poor bastard

busting his ass for us is debatable


Bowe was a FA and he wanted to go to cleveland, he chose cleveland.

Be happy for him.

Oh, so you admit you don't watch the games. There is more to being a WR than just catching passes.

Good deal for Cleveland. Bowe will be hungry. Or at least he will have the munchies.

Bowe ****ed himself.

KC only saved 5m by cutting him when he had a 10,750,000 base salary.

Chiefs could have saved that 5m by offering him a paycut down to 6m and kept him...no reason they wouldn't have offered that.

He bet on himself ...and lost.

Or Dorsey just wanted him gone and didn't make any offer to keep him...but the timeline for his release indicates they did try to work something out to keep him.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Alluded to it earlier. I think he is pissed right now.

Watched every game there was to watch

There is more to being a WR than catching passes. There is practicing and become a polished route runner. There is learning the playbook so that you line up correctly and are in the right place at the right time. There is knowing your defensive checks and reads so that your QB trusts you to be on the same page. There is doing all the things off of the field to stay in shape and always be available for your team. Having a commit to excellence so that you continue to improve and become the best player you can be.

so much more than being big,athletic and catching passes .........

Am I the only one thinking he'd be good in Pittsburgh? Say what you will about Haley, but Bowe was at his best under his tutelage.

ROFL

Have fun in Cleveland. I guess no one else with a competent WR core wanted to give Bowe a call so he decided to go to Cleveland.

I'm pretty sure PeerunKC is this guy!!

Hopefully, he got paid.

If he decided to wait till after the draft, he would be fighting for half of what he got from Cleveland.

Stacked WR draft 2 years in a row = very limited market for 30 year old receivers in production slumps that have baggage.

Sadly, I'll always remember his best catch being the one that sent the Dallas game to OT. A game we ended up losing.

Oh well.

With Maclin and us drafting another receiver, the memory of Bowe in KC is gonna fade quickly.

That seems to be a major theme in Bowe's professional life.

ROFL

Exactly. ROFL

Sweet Daddy Williams to da Browns now??

I'm not sure how he ****ed himself, he refused to take a paycut and thus the Chiefs now have 8.8 in dead money owed to Bowe.

So Chiefs pay him almost 9 million to not be on their team + whatever Bowe got from the Browns = is definitely more than the paycut but less than his actual full Chiefs contract for this year.

So he actually might have made money.

That's not how it works.

Dead money is what he already got paid. He voided his guarantees when he got popped for weed.

I find it ironic that people are bashing Bowe because there weren't reports of top contending teams being interested in him or because a top-tier QB wasn't offering to take a paycut to acquire him while at the same time praising Jeremy Maclin although there weren't any reports of top-tier teams and top-tier QBs clamoring for him, either.

:shrug:

I find the whole meltdown humourous...

isn't dead money what you pay him to get out of the contract/cut?

Dead money is the pro-rated bonus money already paid and/or guaranteed money you owe him even after he's cut.

Yeah, but Red and Gold.

You'd think he'd be longing to play for a franchise with a half-decent QB for at least one season of his career. Even if he had to play for the league minimum. For a WR, spending your entire career with us and the Browns is almost like not playing in the NFL at all.

MIZ! or some shit.

:hmmm:

Wasn't maclin set on either Philly or here? He said there was some other interest but everybody pretty much knew it was us or them.

Two absolute POWERHOUSES interested in his service.

The point was about where he wanted to play, something which generally influences the interest level of other potential suitors, or lack thereof.

We actually see it happen all the time with high profile free agents. Their destination is set long in advance of actual free agency, there aren't bidding wars all that often, unless it's a situation like Sanders last year where an agent plays one team off another to raise the price and the guy still ends up where he wanted to be all along.

And the reasons for maclin to want to come here are obvious: home region, coach he likes, system he knows. That's not something that anywhere else in the league could offer, in addition to the contract.

Well, at least when Bowe shows up with the munchies, Johnny Football can give him a Snickers.

Bowe, I am disappoint.

damn from 1 shitty team to another!

He better at least have gotten paid.

If Maclin fails to hit 1000 yards and Bowe does lets melt this mother ****er down!

He'll probably score 3 TDs and point to the name on his jersey. But then still lose.

Manziel to Bowe for 14 TDs this year.

Ummm pretty sure Manziel isn't playing this year. At least that is the report that I heard here.

Someone explain this 8.8 mill in dead money thing

Signing with the Factory of Sadness just proves that Bowe is only interested in playing for a checkionship.(tm)


Maybe Ray Farmer gave him Stockholm Syndrome....

Bowe suffers from BPS.

When you sign a player they get a signing bonus on big Contracts. That money is split over the life of the deal so you don't have to pay the 30 million bonus on year 1. Basically his signing bonus over the rest of his original contract is what this is.

Had he not got popped for weed it'd be much higher and would've been impossible to cut him.

When a player signs a contract they often get a signing bonus. Up front money for just signing the paper. To help with salary cap restraints the NFL allows teams to prorate that bonus money over the length of the contract.

IE 5 year deal with a 50 million dollar signing bonus(just for ease of math)

that means that only 10 million dollars of the signing bonus counts against team cap each year.

but ....... if that player is cut/traded before that 5 years is up the rest of that bonus cap hit accelerates and hits all the year he leaves.

So if the 5yr/50 million player leaves after 3 years, the team will have a 20 million dollar cap hit called 'dead money'.

Dead money meaning a cap number being allocated for a player not still on the team.


Now there are other rules about bonuses and cap money, but those are the basics.

It makes me sad that I miss Cassel and Bowe...

It's the Alex Smith 49er fans and the clowns like Laz and Reerun. What do you expect.

He won't do crap for them. They are the only team willing to pay him what he felt was fair. He sucks.

FYP

Helpful info for D Bowe....

"He's going to the Ravens"

Wrong as usual. It was people like clay worshipping him, declaring that he would be hotly pursued by multiple elite qb driven teams, and would prove that bowes fall from superstar was solely alex Smith. Of course that was a part of it, but a lot of it was solely on bowes lack of disciplined route running, and inability to use his size and strength to punish defenders.

But go ahead with your simple flawed logic.

LMAO

"Factory of Masochism"

Yeah, watching him "drop" a hundred on Sean "solid" Smith is giving me a boner already.

Thanks for the info AutumnWilliams

Bowe probably will get 100 yards against us considering that they will be passing the entire final 3 quarters in a blowout.

You're welcome, Clancy.

How much you wanna bet he won't get 100?

RIP, prayers sent to his family

I am in for whatever you will cover. I mean I agree. He will not get 100 yards.