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GoChargers 04-02-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415450)
...or we can ignorantly write a narrative that Romo threw a game ending pick on 4th and 1 and ignore the fact he was on the 23, with 13 seconds left, no timeouts, and he threw the ball to his best player (Terrell Owens) because they had no other options ...

Don't forget how he totally shat the bed on Dallas' last THREE drives. The interception was just the cherry on top of the shit sandwich, but that'll be what you obsess over in order to give Romo a pass.

GoChargers 04-02-2015 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415662)
Super Bowl QBR:

Russell Wilson : 90.8
Tom Brady: 81.1

...

nice try, dip****

http://espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400749027

http://i.imgur.com/JOmFS0G.jpg

https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/st...22521748697090

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:01 PM

Seattle possessed the ball for less than 3 minutes in the 4th quarter and 1 of the drives was ended by the aforementioned missed call ... and it was a TERRIBLE missed call.

There is a reason why his 5 QBR didn't effect his overall 90 QBR for the game ... because he didn't really do anything until the final drive because they were trying to kill the clock playing not to lose and trying to keep the ball away from Brady

90.8 QBR for the game

and, once again, got his team in position to win the game (per usual) when it counted most

Butler just made the play of the decade

RUSSELL WILSON QBR : 90.8
TOM BRADY QBR: 81.1

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:03 PM

Wilson 2 career Super Bowls ...

QBR: 88.1 and 90.8

yeah, Russell Dilfer

you're a ****ing dipshit

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:04 PM

In terms of one play swinging a team’s chances of winning the Super Bowl, the second-down interception was probably the most important in the history of the NFL. Burke’s Advanced Football Analytics model suggested after the game that the Patriots’ chances of winning jumped from 12 percent before the interception to 99 percent afterward, for a swing of 87 percentage points. It’s difficult for one play in any context to shift things that dramatically.

The Mike Jones tackle of Kevin Dyson at the 1-yard line in Super Bowl XXXIV came to mind, but that was a 23-16 game; even if Dyson had gotten in, Tennessee’s chances of winning would have risen only to about 50 percent, since the two teams would have gone to overtime (or Tennessee would have attempted a two-pointer, which would also have put its chances of winning near 50 percent). The most meaningful play before this one was probably Scott Norwood’s missed 47-yard field goal in a 20-19 game at the end of Super Bowl XXV, but there’s no way he had an 87 percent chance of making the game-winning field goal to begin with, so even reducing Buffalo’s chances to zero wouldn’t match Wilson’s interception.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/su...ttle-seahawks/

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:05 PM

well no ****ing shit moron

that terrible playcall obviously ended the Super Bowl

yet, only two people have blamed Russell Wilson on this board for it ... you and Just Passin' By

Gee, wonder why?

You two are the biggest dumb****s on the board.

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:06 PM

of course, this is the same board that said Russell played "average" when he was the best player on the field and had a 90.8 QBR (which is clutch based formula) ...

this board knows dick about QB play

that much I know

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415681)
Wilson 2 career Super Bowls ...

QBR: 88.1 and 90.8

yeah, Russell Dilfer

you're a ****ing dipshit

2014: Spotted a huge lead by Lynch, Hauschka, Harvin and the defense, and of course, Fivehead having his usual playoff meltdown. He did get to pad his stats a bit in the second half, though. The Super Bowl MVP was rightfully awarded to a defensive player instead of Wilson.

2015: Couldn't even complete a pass until the second quarter; 3-10 on third down; blew a ten-point lead (couldn't even score, even while being bailed out with miracle catches); biggest choke INT in NFL history.

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415688)
well no ****ing shit moron

that terrible playcall obviously ended the Super Bowl

yet, only two people have blamed Russell Wilson on this board for it ... you and Just Passin' By

Gee, wonder why?

You two are the biggest dumb****s on the board.

The playcall wasn't good, but last I checked, Pete Carroll wasn't the one who threw that pick, and neither was Darrell Bevell.

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:15 PM

Russell executed the play that was called very well. It's not his fault one bit. The defender made a legendary play.

I could go round, and round, and round and the numbers will still say Russel Wilson had a 90.1 QBR in the Super Bowl and was the best player and quarterback in that Super Bowl ... and you'll try to manipulate the numbers because you're an idiot like you did with that 2007 Dallas playoff game against the Giants ...

but it's pointless.

You're a dipshit.

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415717)
Russell executed the play that was called very well. It's not his fault one bit. The defender made a legendary play.

I could go round, and round, and round and the numbers will still say Russel Wilson had a 90.1 QBR in the Super Bowl and was the best player and quarterback in that Super Bowl ... and you'll try to manipulate the numbers because you're an idiot like you did with that 2007 Dallas playoff game against the Giants ...

but it's pointless.

You're a dipshit.

If you actually believe that Wilson was the best player and quarterback in the Super Bowl, you are hopelessly biased.

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:19 PM

the Patriots were the best team in the Super Bowl and ONE GUY on Seattle decided that it was going to take a miracle for New England to win

it's aight, though

this has happened before

in 2 years when Wilson is thought of as the best or 2nd best NFL QB and everyone, per usual, was 3-4 years behind me

it'll be fun

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:20 PM

and Tom Brady played the best postseason game I've ever seen Tom Brady play in my life, so please, Patriot defenders, don't think I'm insulting Tom Brady. That was his legacy game.

ThaVirus 04-02-2015 02:21 PM

I actually agree that Wilson is a beast but the ball placement on that INT was less than ideal. It should have been low to a point where Lockette made the sliding catch or it fell incomplete.

You're also moving the goal posts on your Wilson argument. You said before the start of the 2013 season that everyone would recognize Wilson as a top 3 QB (or thereabout). Now you're saying it'll be after this next season..

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415727)
the Patriots were the best team in the Super Bowl

No, but they had an actual franchise quarterback and the Seahawks didn't.

Quote:

in 2 years when Wilson is thought of as the best or 2nd best NFL QB and everyone, per usual, was 3-4 years behind me

it'll be fun
LMAO

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11415735)
I actually agree that Wilson is a beast but the ball placement on that INT was less than ideal. It should have been low to a point where Lockette made the sliding catch or it fell incomplete.

You're also moving the goal posts on your Wilson argument. You said before the start of the 2013 season that everyone would recognize Wilson as a top 3 QB (or thereabout). Now you're saying it'll be after this next season..

I already think he's a top 3 NFL QB

I'm not moving the goalposts one bit.

Dude is sensational.

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:23 PM

Chiefs fans ...

passing on Bridgewater is a fail to BIBLICAL proportions

....

RUSSELL WILSON ISN'T ELITE

My ****ing God.

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11415741)
Chiefs fans ...

passing on Bridgewater is a fail to BIBLICAL proportions

....

RUSSELL WILSON ISN'T ELITE

My ****ing God.

Hootie...

Alice Smiff = great!

Aaron Rodgers = garbage and overrated!

Hootie 04-02-2015 02:27 PM

never once referred to Rodgers as anything less than a top 5 QB

nice try

GoChargers 04-02-2015 02:29 PM

You referred to him as "GROSSLY overrated" and a "choker."

-King- 04-02-2015 02:35 PM

LMAO @ Wilson being the best QB in the superbowl. That's pretty hilarious.

vailpass 04-02-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 11415651)
First of all, "idiocracy" isn't a word. You might want to brush up on the English language before trying to insult others' intelligence. You might be thinking of "idiocy," which is the perfect description of your takes.

Go away! I'm 'batin!

Chief Roundup 04-02-2015 04:48 PM

You gotta say when Hootie goes in he goes balls deep.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-02-2015 04:48 PM

Tom Brady

Hootie 04-03-2015 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11415775)
LMAO @ Wilson being the best QB in the superbowl. That's pretty hilarious.

you thought Russell Wilson played "an average" game in the Super Bowl

he had a 90.8 QBR

he was AMAZING

he single-handedly kept his team in the game DESPITE the Patriots being BY FAR the more prepared team

...and he had the game won

but then Tom Brady blasted the Hawks with a Tom Brady legacy game

...and Wilson STILL won the game

UNTIL THAT ****ING PLAYCALL THAT WAS THE DUMBEST ****ING THING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE

Herm died when that play was called. Seriously. Has he been on TV lately? Is Herm dead?

O.city 04-03-2015 08:54 AM

I thought it was a case of Wilson being solid for the entire game, Brady being meh for the first half or 3/4, then going into God mode late. It kinda made Wilson look worse.

Had Brady played better the entire game, he wouldn't have needed the late heroics.

Of course this is solely an opinion and more than likely, wrong.

-King- 04-03-2015 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11416872)
you thought Russell Wilson played "an average" game in the Super Bowl

he had a 90.8 QBR

he was AMAZING

he single-handedly kept his team in the game DESPITE the Patriots being BY FAR the more prepared team

...and he had the game won

but then Tom Brady blasted the Hawks with a Tom Brady legacy game

...and Wilson STILL won the game

UNTIL THAT ****ING PLAYCALL THAT WAS THE DUMBEST ****ING THING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE

Herm died when that play was called. Seriously. Has he been on TV lately? Is Herm dead?

Record for longest time gone without a completion
3/8 in the 1st and 4th quarter combined (one being the fluke Kearse catch)
Threw game losing INT

You live in a world of your own if you think that's a great performance.
Posted via Mobile Device

Hootie 04-03-2015 03:06 PM

you do realize that Seattle, like every stupid ****ing NFL team, decided to play "not to lose" once they built a 10 point lead rather than going for the jugular

and everyone conveniently forgets the game changing blatant defensive pass interference on Butler when he tripped and grabbed the Seattle receivers foot which prevented a first down and potentially a HUGE gain and probably the dagger in New England

...but I realize people aren't very sophisticated football viewers and only remember the convenient aspects of the game

Hootie 04-03-2015 03:11 PM

This no call cost Seattle the Super Bowl and no one talks about it.

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7:55 remaining, first-and-10 from the Seattle 20
Wilson's pass to Ricardo Lockette goes incomplete.
Running a crossing route, Lockette was open when Butler fell in coverage, but suddenly Lockette was on the ground too. Replays showed that Butler reached out as he went down and tripped Lockette.
It's hard to blame Butler; he was beat, and Lockette catching that pass at full speed would have gone for a bigger gain than would a pass interference penalty, but it's a trip officials should have caught.

BossChief 04-03-2015 03:14 PM

The play call was what lost Seattle the game.

Colin Cowherd did an interview with Butler a day or 2 after the Super Bowl where the kid layed it all out.

1) there were a handful of times during the regular season when Seattle was in a similar scenario (needing a yard or 2 on the goal line) and in 5 out of 7 times that they didn't run Lynch (which they didn't convert when they did) they ran that EXACT SAME PLAY with slants and a quick throw.

2) Bill Bilicheck pulled Butler aside DURING SUPERBOWL WEEK when they were practicing situational football and this exact scenario came about and Bill showed him EXACTLY how to prepare for the play by taking inside position and as soon as the first step was made to jump in front of the receiver and get his hands up.

It wasn't by any means a lucky play for NE, they were prepared for the situation because Bevel is so predictable.

Bill baited Seattle into running that play on a rookie, thinking that had the best chance of success and it worked out beautifully.

-King- 04-03-2015 03:50 PM

There are amazingly stupid playcalls every single week. Just because there's a bad playcall doesn't excuse throwing an INT. Wilson could have placed the ball better. He could have audibled to a run. Something. Anything. I just don't buy the whole "The playcall was horrible so it makes him throwing a pick okay" logic.

-King- 04-03-2015 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11417473)
you do realize that Seattle, like every stupid ****ing NFL team, decided to play "not to lose" once they built a 10 point lead rather than going for the jugular

and everyone conveniently forgets the game changing blatant defensive pass interference on Butler when he tripped and grabbed the Seattle receivers foot which prevented a first down and potentially a HUGE gain and probably the dagger in New England

...but I realize people aren't very sophisticated football viewers and only remember the convenient aspects of the game

It was probably a dagger? ROFLROFL It was a 3 point game at that point, the ball was at the Seattle 20 and there was 8 minutes left in the game. Dagger? Haha.

GoChargers 04-03-2015 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11417473)
you do realize that Seattle, like every stupid ****ing NFL team, decided to play "not to lose" once they built a 10 point lead rather than going for the jugular

and everyone conveniently forgets the game changing blatant defensive pass interference on Butler when he tripped and grabbed the Seattle receivers foot which prevented a first down and potentially a HUGE gain and probably the dagger in New England

...but I realize people aren't very sophisticated football viewers and only remember the convenient aspects of the game

Did the refs fail to complete a pass until the second quarter, go 3-10 on third down, and throw the biggest choke INT in NFL history?

SAUTO 04-03-2015 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11417535)
There are amazingly stupid playcalls every single week. Just because there's a bad playcall doesn't excuse throwing an INT. Wilson could have placed the ball better. He could have audibled to a run. Something. Anything. I just don't buy the whole "The playcall was horrible so it makes him throwing a pick okay" logic.

No one made him throw that ball...

TimBone 04-03-2015 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11416875)
I thought it was a case of Wilson being solid for the entire game, Brady being meh for the first half or 3/4, then going into God mode late. It kinda made Wilson look worse.

Had Brady played better the entire game, he wouldn't have needed the late heroics.

Of course this is solely an opinion and more than likely, wrong.

Can we please take note of this? Somebody on CP is actually admitting that they might be wrong. Someone please screen capture that post for record. Perhaps we should move this thread to HOC for safe keeping.

Pasta Little Brioni 04-04-2015 06:56 AM

Tom Brady

Sully 04-04-2015 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11416872)
you thought Russell Wilson played "an average" game in the Super Bowl

he had a 90.8 QBR

he was AMAZING

he single-handedly kept his team in the game DESPITE the Patriots being BY FAR the more prepared team

...and he had the game won

but then Tom Brady blasted the Hawks with a Tom Brady legacy game

...and Wilson STILL won the game

UNTIL THAT ****ING PLAYCALL THAT WAS THE DUMBEST ****ING THING I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE

Herm died when that play was called. Seriously. Has he been on TV lately? Is Herm dead?

The play call didn't force him to throw an INT.

Hootie 04-04-2015 02:23 PM

so

in your opinion

every INT thrown by a QB is always the QB's fault

right?

milkman 04-04-2015 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11418586)
so

in your opinion

every INT thrown by a QB is always the QB's fault

right?

That pass, in traffic, should have been low, into the receiver's hip.
That throw was high at in front of the receiver.

That was asking for a pick.

I really like Wilson, and believe he's far better than many give him credit for, but that pick was all on him.

Piss poor play call, but worse execution.

-King- 04-04-2015 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11418586)
so

in your opinion

every INT thrown by a QB is always the QB's fault

right?

No. Some balls are tipped in the air and that's not on the QB most times.

But this was on Wilson. The ball placement was terrible. Why was he trying to lead Lockette at the 1 yard line? You throw that ball low and to the body.

O.city 04-04-2015 09:17 PM

Wilson is 5"10. He really couldn't have thrown it low.

Sully 04-04-2015 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11418586)
so

in your opinion

every INT thrown by a QB is always the QB's fault

right?

Incorrect.
Every INT thrown by a QB is not always the QB's fault. I'm not sure how anyone could possibly get that out of what I posted, but I guess you gotta want it.

O.city 04-04-2015 09:26 PM

I don't really get why it has to be a choke per say on Wilson. Defender made a great play on a decently thrown ball.

milkman 04-04-2015 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11419502)
I don't really get why it has to be a choke per say on Wilson. Defender made a great play on a decently thrown ball.

I don't agree with your statement, that because of his height, that he couldn't throw it low.

But I also don't think it's a choke job.

I think it's a mistake that a young QB makes, and he will learn from it.

It's just a damn shame that that learning moment came in the most critical situation possible.

O.city 04-05-2015 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11419571)
I don't agree with your statement, that because of his height, that he couldn't throw it low.

But I also don't think it's a choke job.

I think it's a mistake that a young QB makes, and he will learn from it.

It's just a damn shame that that learning moment came in the most critical situation possible.

Unless he's gonna throw it thru the de and or rt, I'm not sure how he could have thrown it much lower

Hootie 04-05-2015 12:43 PM

I have three years of evidence that shows me Wilson makes big time play after big time play after big time play in big time games. I truly feel like the defender just made the best play of his life.

regardless, calling that play in that situation will forever haunt my dreams, regardless of execution

GoChargers 04-05-2015 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11418586)
so

in your opinion

every INT thrown by a QB is always the QB's fault

right?

The horrible ball placement was the QB's fault.

GoChargers 04-05-2015 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11420137)
I have three years of evidence that shows me Wilson makes big time play after big time play after big time play in big time games.

Yeah, like the Saints game. Or regulation against the Packers. Or both Super Bowls (didn't have to do anything in the first one, choked the second one away).

Hootie 04-05-2015 01:17 PM

he posted an 88 QBR and a 91 QBR in his two Super Bowls

the Saints game was never even a game ... terrible weather conditions ... and they led like 16-0 at halftime

and he scored 3 or 4 straight TD's to beat the Packers in the NFC Championship Game; very resilient; most guys would have folded

you're a ****ing moron

Hootie 04-05-2015 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 11420160)
The horrible ball placement was the QB's fault.

Tom Brady overthrew a wide open Julian Edelman by 10 yards on a TD throw in the same game before hitting him on the same route on the game's final TD

not every throw is going to be perfect

Russell executed the playcall just fine. The defender made a fantastic play. It's hilarious that some people want to put that on the QB and refuse to acknowledge that MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the guy getting paid to play defense just made a sensational play.

but this website blames the QB for everything

guy puts up a 91 QBR in a Super Bowl and comes 1 yard short a year after winning a Super Bowl a year after playing the game of his life in the playoffs his rookie year

...and is referred to as 'Russell Dilfer' by your dumbass

lmao

Bowser 04-05-2015 02:51 PM

That play should have been called ONLY if Marshawn Lynch is hobbled on the sideline, and even then you give it to James Turbin. It was a classic case of a coach(es) thinking they were outsmarting everyone else.

Hootie 04-05-2015 03:24 PM

they wanted the face of their franchise to get his Super Bowl MVP

it was the worst playcall in the history of the NFL

vomit inducing


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