Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11615773)

We have the best secondary coaching in the NFL with Emmit Thomas and Al Harris. Peters will be ready to roll. Only question is who will play the nickel for those 3 games.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11615711)

Yup, I did say that Houston, Hali and Poe need to step up against Denver. But as part of that conversation I said 'our best players need to step up and play their best in our biggest games'.

Smith is among our best players. Dipshit Clay spent an entire offseason disparaging the guy so suddenly the narrative started that he just isn't very good. After kicking ass and taking names last season folks started acknowledging 'well I guess he's adequate'. My ass, Sean Smith was a legitimately outstanding player for us last season. He was no worse than a top 10 NFL corner last season and an argument can be made that he was better than that.

I think people spent so much energy talking the guy down prior to last season that they're disregarding just how important he was. He was a great player last year and if we're going to do real damage this year, he'll need to be great again. Going into a contract year, I see no reason he wouldn't be and his loss will hurt.

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 11615776)

Gaines??? Duh

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11615795)

Gaines will be on the outside. The coaching staff has made that clear.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11615799)

My guess would be Nelson, though Fleming played well enough last year that Nelson will have to flat out take the job away from him.

Reid hasn't really been eager to get the rookies on the field in the defensive backfield; he tends to work them in slowly. It wouldn't surprise me to see Fleming start with the role and Nelson get more snaps throughout the season.

They could also put Abdullah there and have Branch play more of a conventional SS role, as they've done in the past.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11615787)

We've got the talent and depth to develop this year. We would be fine without Smith.

It's not like we're letting Brandon Carr walk away and replacing him with some random asshole from the Raiders in free agency next year. We've been stocking our secondary with good talent for the past three years now.

We should let Sean Smith sign with somebody else after this year and use his money on another guy.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11615648)

It's not an excuse - Ws and Ls are all that matters and the Chiefs have no choice but to win that football game.

But lets not act like this doesn't make it substantially more difficult. Last year Smith was a fringe pro-bowl caliber player and his length perfectly matches up with what Thomas can do. It isn't just about 'B+' players, it's a B+ player that also presents a difficult matchup for Denver's top receiving threat.

It's the old boxing axiom - matchups make fights. Hell, let's say you replace Smith with another B+ player - he's still not going to be as good in that game because he doesn't present the length problems that Smith does.

If the Broncos lost Thomas, we'd see that as a pretty damaging loss for them and assume our odds of success just increased quite a bit, no? Well by losing Smith and a very strong matchup against Thomas, we've essentially done the inverse by increasing Thomas's effectiveness and thus decreased our odds of success quite a bit.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 11615806)

Depends on how the year plays out. We should have around 30m in space and a bunch of guys to sign or replace, so it depends on who earns extensions.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 11615571)

Nah i bet he gets re-signed.

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11615811)

I disagree, There's no assurance the CB we use will do better or worse, same with Thomas for the Broncos. Another player may make the same or even better plays in his place. The odds are that the replacement wouldn't but to use this to say the Chiefs lose is asinine.

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 11615736)

We haven't even seen Peters play and Gaines is not a sure thing either, he needs to get bigger and stronger and his sample size is awfully small because of injury, which he will continue to get banged up and inj in this league is he doesn't bulk up and get stronger, and Nelson will be a nickel/dime CB.

Smith was a top CB in the NFL last season, and can be again this season with the added front 7 help. You need top CB's in today's NFL. And this team now has one. Berry is coming back hopefully soon, which will boost this defense even more.

I want a dominating Chiefs defense. It needs to be the best defense in the league because Alex Smith won't win this team shit unless it is the best. The defense has tons of talent on it, there's no reason not to invest in the defense more and not have to worry about the secondary for years. Is a DWI all you're scared of?

Can you imagine eventually having Smith, Peters, Gaines covering xyz, Parker as a single high safety, Berry down in the box covering TE's and underneath routes along w/ DJ, and Houston, Ford, Catapano, Bailey, and Poe all unleashing hell on the QB. WTF is going to be able to pass on us?

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 11615811)

I disagree, There's no assurance the CB we use will do better or worse, same with Thomas for the Broncos. Another player may make the same or even better plays in his place. The odds are that the replacement wouldn't but to use this to say the Chiefs lose is asinine.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615815)

I doubt it.

His replacement is already on roster and he's got no leverage.

We'll let him walk and get a 5th round comp pick...

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11615813)

My guess is Howard and Abdullah get new contracts.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11615819)

Of course it isn't. A 6'2" veteran CB coming off a top 8 season is going to be replaced by a "sophomore", a rookie, or a guy that was cut from a practice squad prior to last season.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11615819)

Essentially, we're taking a big hit at the second most important position on our defense while playing against a sure-fire HOF QB, probably the most intelligent QB of all time, and a team whose strength will directly exploit our newfound weakness.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615841)

So we have to face Manning AND Rodgers with a rookie and Gaines starting.

Yep. 0-3.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11615831)

If he plays well, he'll cost as much as Albert did and we'll approach a 3rd, IMO.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615841)

So we have to face Manning AND Rodgers with a rookie and Gaines starting.

Yep. 0-3.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11615844)

WE're playing Ryan Mallet week 1. I doubt we lose to him.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11615844)

WE're playing Ryan Mallet week 1. I doubt we lose to him.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615839)

You should have used a ? there.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11615858)

I'm not talking about after this year; I'm talking about this year.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 11615507)

He isn't planning on appealing it.

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 11615868)

Source?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615869)

Probably the fact he hasn't filed for an appeal...

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 11615868)

Source?

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615865)

So am I.

By the end of this year we'll be a much better team than at the start.

And our schedule is WEAK the last 6 games...

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11615875)

That may be true but we'll need our best players for our toughest games. This hurts no matter how you try and spin it.

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11615880)

I'm not a huge fan of Smith, and that's probably no secret.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615841)

So we have to face Manning AND Rodgers with a rookie and Gaines starting.

Yep. 0-3.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11615883)

I couldn't imagine why. He's outperformed his contract thus far. What more could you ask for?

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 11615527)

Drunken ****. No excuse for an NFL player to get a DWI. None.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11615885)

:harumph:b

Bullshit.

And your "shtick" is really ****ing old.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615906)

This isn't an act. The team isn't all that and now they are handicapped.

Logically I don't know why anyone would expect us to beat Denver and Green Bay. And the Chiefs have a bad habit of getting shitstained in openers on the road.

Just looking at the facts. Take your optimism and shove it.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615906)

This isn't an act. The team isn't all that and now they are handicapped.

Logically I don't know why anyone would expect us to beat Denver and Green Bay. And the Chiefs have a bad habit of getting shitstained in openers on the road.

Just looking at the facts. Take your optimism and shove it.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 11615914)

The Broncos losing Wolfe is just as bad for them if not worse.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615923)

Not really, because the Chiefs OL is a dumpster fire.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615906)

Logically I don't know why anyone would expect us to beat Denver and Green Bay. .

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615923)

Not really, because the Chiefs OL is a dumpster fire.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11615934)

Somehow they were able to beat both Super Bowl teams.

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 11615847)

Per Ian Rapoport

Usual suspension for a DUI is 2 games, unless there are extenuating circumstances. #Chief CB Sean Smith hit a street lamp. Led to extra game

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11615934)

Somehow they were able to beat both Super Bowl teams.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11615395)

Sean Smith needs to appeal immediately.

If Greg Hardy can beat women and get his sentence reduced by 6 games, then Sean Smith should be able to get his reduced.

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11615971)

that ****er hit a street lamp!? What a jerk !

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11615906)

This isn't an act. The team isn't all that and now they are handicapped.

Logically I don't know why anyone would expect us to beat Denver and Green Bay. And the Chiefs have a bad habit of getting shitstained in openers on the road.

Just looking at the facts. Take your optimism and shove it.

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 11616033)

I think most people are fans of a team because it brings them happiness?

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 11616061)

dude, a DUI is worse than PEDs

way worse if you ask me

Originally Posted by Cmd'r&Chief (Post 11615987)

That's a valid point, except your not considering that Clark Hunt isn't Jerry Jones. Only owners that are up Goodell's ass, get favors.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11616076)

Hunt offer's up a home game for the stupid London experimenter...and how does Goodell thank him...by tacking on an extra game for hitting a lamppost. A ****ing lamppost cost him a game..not to mention that Smith's DUI happened before the new policy was implemented.

Players better be careful...they could be doing something today..that will get them suspended next year with a new rule.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11615844)

WE're playing Ryan Mallet week 1. I doubt we lose to him.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11616070)

This is a depressing team.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 11616124)

i thought this same thing last year in week 1 until they lost to a 26 year old injury prone QB who wasnt even that passionate about football and retired.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 11616129)

There's no excuse for the Chiefs to have come out that flat in the opener and lose to a team that simply had no business being on an NFL field for most of the season.

Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs (Post 11616136)

I know why it happened.

http://i.imgur.com/guY8ebH.jpg

Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 11616135)

When was the last time we began a season with all our starters?

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11616074)

The third game is absolutely ****ing horse shit.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11617091)

I get why people shit on Claythan, but anyone that isn't a little concerned that this team might come out of the gate 0-4, even with Sean Smith, is delusional.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 11617091)

I get why people shit on Claythan, but anyone that isn't a little concerned that this team might come out of the gate 0-4, even with Sean Smith, is delusional.