We own those shitheads since Andy has come to town.

The Chargers are about one block over from the skid row flophouse on Oakland Ave. Rivers is so erratic from season to season, and the organization so lacking in continuity, why even have this debate?

Chargers are the epitome of "sunshine/ dog's ass", and Denver is headed to the neighborhood as well, albeit slowly.

Jack Del Rio doesn't see why not.

Oh, man. I totally forgot that the Chargers were in the division.

Last year they got ass raped at home by the browns. Your point?

The Chiefs also beat the Pats. What was your point?

How pathetic is it that in my lifetime and since I started watching the Chiefs that every teamnin this division including Seattle have been to the Superbowl at least once.

So frustrating.

You just got done saying KC doesn't have a legit defense. I think excellent = legit. Don't you?

Yeah their franchise QB sure helped them last year when they got swept and beaten by Chase daniel

never saw rivers as franchise, very good, but not franchise
he makes to many stupid mistakes and gets emotional when he should go ice cold
not clutch,
just numbers
sandyeggo 3rd in west

Yeah..with the teams he has had...he should have been in multiple SBs. He's the common denominator.. I dont view him as much better than Smith...

He couldn't beat KC's back-up QB with a playoff birth on the line..

No, that's not what I said. Go back and re-read my post again. Read it very slowly. Maybe have someone read it with you. You know, to help you understand.

My point is that SD has a franchise QB AND a good defense whereas KC only has a good defense and an average QB.

Yeah, I have disdain for the Chargers, but the sad truth is my fanship would have been better if I had become a Chargers fan.

And their franchise QB and 'good' defense netted them a 9-7 finish, same as KC's, while being swept by KC and allowing 348 points on the year, while KC's defense only allowed 281.

The point? KC is a better team than San Diego. They were last year and they will be again this year.

The real question is whether Kansas City can pass Denver and how far Denver will fall off, or IF (which most experts pick some regression) they fall off this year?

Make no mistake about it. This division will come down to Kansas City and Denver (barring major injuries) in the end.

There's still time for you.

I like Phillip Rivers. Liking the quarterback puts me ahead of most of the Chiefs teams of the past decade.

If there was ever a team that could go undefeated and win a Super Bowl without anyone noticing, it would have to be the Chargers. I'd imagine even the ’72 Dolphins would still go on popping champagne bottles annually in blissful ignorance.

Tampa, too.

I've been to a game in San Diego. It's like watching the Chiefs win with my grandma in her KC nursing home. Some know what's happening, some don't...some clap at random, and most are too high on medication to remember to tell someone they have to use the restroom.

Jeez. I didn't know you liked Rivers. With your hatred towards Seau, I assumed you'd feel the same about Rivers or all Chargers for that matter.

So, jumping around and over celebrating is bad but being a good QB who occasionally wears his heart on his sleeve, (or as many opposing fans would call being a "crybaby bitch"), is okay. Gotcha.:thumb:

Exactly.

The difference is that Seau wanted to be the center of attention, but with Rivers, I think he's just a goofy guy who loves football. I'm a goofy guy who loves football, so the only difference between us is that I have no zip on an out pattern. And Rivers won major points in my book by being a man in the draft when Eli Manning was doing his Elway tantrum.

Rivers is okay in my book.

I just hate Phillip Rivers, it's mostly the bolo tie though

Charger fans wouldn't let anyone forget.

I think i read it just fine. Dumb****.

Yes, like one year before they move to LA.

you can't fix stupid...

It's going to be a tough division. Still see it as Denver, KC, SD and OAK

Rivers is Cutler with a few less picks.

Very. I think they completely depend on how Carr develops, and how their oline is.

They have a LOT of talent.

Added Amari Cooper:mad:, Crabtree, to go with Rod Streeter, Latavius Murray.

If they get anything from their secondary, which is their weak spot, and can protect Carr, they can give the Bolts a run for third.

And no matter what they say, no, the Chargers, and Raiders are not on the Chiefs level.

The Chargers are going to implode. You don't leave your franchise qb on his last year. Its going to be rough in San Diego.

Im not sure about that one. Cutler is a bitch. At the very least Rivers has become somewhat likeable the last few years. Cutler has gotten so bad.

hes insufferable.

Donkey fan says Chargers are better bc they have Rivers.

But yet we swept them with Chase Daniel last year.

They're in talks now so I'd expect Rivers to have signed his extension prior to the season opener.

This is a non-issue the media used to hype up the draft.

It's August. Everybody has a shot to win it all right now.

We will go 9-7 again, miss the playoffs again, get another middling draft pick, then waste it. Lather, rinse, repeat until the Spanos family finally gets the **** out.

That is very true. It's common theme for Charger fans.

We know that story all to well.

really?

Ranking the AFCW teams this year--

1. Broncos (HoF QB)
2. Chargers (Rock Solid, Franchise QB)
3. Chiefs (Mediocre QB)
4. Raiders (2nd Year QB)

You can see how the division lines up according to who the QB is. As for the raiders, I'm not sold on Carr just yet. He got a bunch of his stats when the raiders were out of the game and way behind (garbage time stats).

Yeah. Forget the loss to Alex smith. The chargers in a game they had to have lost to chase ****ing daniel. How in the **** , other than the fact that you are beyond dumb do you figure with all the upgrades the Chiefs made in the offseason, not to mention getting Derrick, devito, and Berry back do you still put the Chargers ahead of the Chiefs.


You don't. You are just a shitty troll. Drink bleach bitch.

you ok, you need some more cherry koolaid bro? It's not like the Chargers didn't do some stuff in the off season too, they drafted a great young RB and you know they will run the ball.

Lol. That's about all they did. Did they do as much to get better as the Chiefs did? Nope. Gates suspended for 4 games.

Whatever dude. Your just an idiot worthless troll. No one in their right mind would see what the Chiefs did in the offseason, and realizing the Chiefs swept the Chargers last year, and honestly say the Chargers are BETTER than the Chiefs.

So yes , I'm perfectly fine.

You forgot to mention the cHargers strengthened their run game with the addition of former Bronco Orlando Franklin to the OL, (revenge for signing Vasquez)

The Chargers had a hard roll last season with injuries...that said their defense isn't there yet...and your best defensive player (Weddle) is disgruntled. Both KC and Denver have them on that front. Your new running back is going to be a player going forward though...The pieces arent there in 2015. You have to have a pass rush...

what was KC's record last year? 9-7. What was SD's record last year? 9-7. So what if your team swept SD last year, that doesn't amount to anything going forward. SD is the better team for one simple reason--MUCH better QB.

You know what Rivers does? He throws TD passes to WRs. Can't say the same thing about Smiff.

I have an acute knowledge of the Chargers weaknesses and the lack of a proven pass rush is near the top of the list.

The main problem is that the Chargers have a lot of hope in a lot of players who've missed a lot of time due to injury.

This is particularly bad on the defensive side of the ball. Some examples would include:
OLB Ingram
OLB Attaochu
CB Verrett
ILB T'eo
CB Flowers
ILB Butler
S Addae

7 of 11 starters were either on IR, missed multiple games due to injury or played through injuries, (T'eo played through a broken foot). The DL depth was depleted through injuries. Only Weddle seemed to survive unscathed.

Ingram has missed 19 games over the past 2 seasons. When he plays he tends to make at least one game changing play per game.

On offense, Woodhead went to IR with a broken fibula in week 3, the Chargers went through 6 centers once (Pro Bowler) Hardwick went down, and Rivers was playing through a back injury towards the end of the season.

I know all teams have issues with injuries but I'd like to see what my favorite team could do as a whole for at least one game. They'd be out of bubblegum.

Not with Alex as your QB. /CPtrolls

Harsh reality is harsh.

Rivers is a beast. Would love to have him. He had a weak stretch a couple years ago (6 ****ing kids might do that to ya lol). He is way better than the aforementioned Cutler.

It's seven kids the last time I checked.

Get swept by the Chiefs and lose to Chase Daniel.

and yet Alex beat him in SD.

It's amazing that this dumbass doesn't understand that football is a team game.

Despite this glaring weakness, the Chiefs still swept them, and they were missing 3 starters on D. SD isn't very good, and I bet they sweep them again.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong, lil chiefy? I still remember a few years ago when you claimed that KCs TEs were soooo much better than Denvers and I told you just how wrong you were and I mention Julius Thomas as one of the reasons the Broncos TEs were good. Remember that?

lol little chiefy, lol.

dude, no other team had more injuries than SD did last year... just say'n...

Nice deflect.

Did the Chiefs sweep Rivers last year or nah?

Did Chase Daniel beat Phillip Rivers last year or nah?

That couldn't possibly happen because they have Phillip Rivers, right?

Yeah, he doesn't seem to care that the Chiefs were missing players to injury, but makes the excuse for SD.

**** him. He's trolling and he needs to return to his usual position of obscurity.

According to this donkey troll The Packers win the NFCC game bc they have Rodgers and the Broncos win the SB bc they have Manning. All franchise QB's better than Russell Wilson.

Oh wait..

Seems like every year someone writes something about SD winning and they always seem to find a way to shit all over themselves.

My goodness you are stupid. Go back and re-read post 125 in this thread. KC went 9-7 last year and so did SD. Just because SD lost both games to KC last year does not mean they will sweep SD this year.

On that same note, just because the Broncos swept SD and KC last year does not mean that will happen again this year.

Do you understand this or are you intentionally stupid?

Having a great QB certainly helps with winning. If you don't understand this, I'm sorry. Of course you are a little chiefy so you really can't understand this simple logic.

I'm a Broncos fan and making one simple point: having a legit franchise QB helps the team win. KC does not have one, SD does, Denver does and we do not yet know if Oakland does.

Gee, thanks for unearthing this breaking news. Care to inform us how wet water is, or if the Sun is bright, or not?

Well we had 3 season ending injuries to major players and Jamaal missed time. Just say'n

Obvious post is obvious.

if you need that clarification than ok. Hey dude, water is wet and don't ever stare directly into the sun with your naked eyes because it's damn bright.

Is it? Because I've had to say this same thing over and over in this thread and many kc posters still don't understand this point.

We understand the whole franchise QB thing. But guess what? We still swept SD last season. Will we do it again? Who knows. But to totally dismiss us and suck off SD is ignorant.

Well, at least when they are at home, they'll have some new menu items to choose from...

Among the Chargers' new food items for 2015: The Diego Burger

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visu...ego_Burger.jpg


On Wednesday the San Diego Chargers invited members of the media to taste the new menu items that will be available at Qualcomm Stadium this coming season. As much as it pains me to say I was not there to taste any of the new items, I can only imagine how incredible everything was via these lovely photos provided by Delaware North Sportservice.
New concessions items include:

• Diego Burger -- American Cheese with fried chile relleno, lettuce, tomato, onions and pickle chips

• Cali Surf Burrito -- shrimp, beef, potato fries, cabbage, pico de gallo, guacamole, salsa, sour cream and cheese

• Philly by the Foot -- Philly sandwich up to 3-feet long

• Chicken Buffalo Sandwich -- chicken tenders with buffalo reaper sauce, bleu cheese and coleslaw

• Loaded Skins -- smash potatoes with cheese, bacon bits sour cream and chili

• Breakfast Mary in a Cup – spicy bloody Michelada mix, bacon on a stick, celery, pickled egg and olives

• Veggie Nacho -- roasted corn, peppers, pico de gallo, cotija cheese

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visu...rgers_Subs.jpg

New suite items include:

• Deli Baguette -- roasted turkey, apple wood smoked bacon, genoa salami, soppressata, provolone cheese, spicy giardiniera, parmesan 3-foot baguette

• Kettle Chips -- with bacon ranch and green onion dip

• Tamales -- jalapeno and cheese wrapped in masa dough

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...e-diego-burger

Chargers window has all but closed in my book.

I didn't think anyone could come close to knowmo. TJ has proven me wrong.

Congrats

Amazing that the guy doesn't understand that. He still won't answer my question if KC swept "the franchise QB" and Chase Daniel beat him too.

The only person holding that team together (Rivers) doesn't even give a $#it now.

Bolo-tie wants out of his team because his team want's out.

I'm absolutely shocked Philly didn't make a reerun-trade for Rivers. He's perfect for that offense...

Im stunned he didn't get to Tennessee honestly.

That trade was perfect for both teams.

Tennessee gets the vet that Whiz loves, and San Diego gets a west coast face to lead the team into L.A. That trade made all the sense in the world.