Either do I. Especially in game 1 shitting his pants and having to go to the pen in the 3rd is devistating.

Cueto 2 and 6. Have Medlen ready in case of meltdown.

right now they are saying Cueto for game 1

RIP

ESPN Radio was saying Cueto when I went to go get dinner so ...Volquez is who I'd go with, personally

Sorry, I cannot let that statement go unchallenged. Whitey Herzog was a helluva manager. He took a young team to 3 straight division titles, and they lost to Yankee teams that were simply better. The team finished in second place in 1979, and Kauffman fired Herzog because Muriel Kauffman didn't like him. That was the only really bad decision Ewing Kauffman ever made.

If Herzog was such a bad manager, how was he able to transform the Cardinals from a mediocre team into a team that he took to multiple World Series?

When Ned retires, I think there's a good chance the next manager is either Raul Ibanez or Jason Kendall.

I'd much prefer the former. Kendall is such an old school red-ass, it scares me a bit. Kirk Gibson-esque.

Ned made the worst decision he has made in two years last night, but his team bailed him out again.

He's tactically challenged, but it works more often than not.

I never, ever said that Herzog was a "bad" manager.

But it was clearly time for a change and the following season was proof.

For a guy named "Brainiac", you continually prove that...oh well, **** it.

It's been said enough times.

Woulda taken a real dildo to screw up that 1980 team. Whitey would've gone to the Series with them too

Dick Howser is remembered fondly now. I went to a lot of games during that period and I can always remember fans bitching about him. In fact, I can remember him get shit on for some decisions in the 85 playoffs. Whitey IMO was the best manager the Royals have ever had.The team just wasn't quite ready. I believe it might have been the difference in 80 had they kept him around. I'll admit I was really young then, and would definately defer to some older guys who understood the game better than a 6 to 14 year old kid at the time lol.

Sure.

Just like all the other times.

Raul Ibanez is a MLB managerial candidate?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed his career as a Royal and cheered him elsewhere.

But what makes him an MLB candidate?

I call bullshit.

First off, the Royals faced a shortened season and had major drug issues with the players. Everyone knows that.

Secondly, he basically took a quickly rebuilt team to the ALCS when there was NO wildcard and only TWO divisions, then won the World Series.

More bullshit.

Whitey had FIVE seasons. He didn't need another year.

The team stopped responding and could only go so far.

That's a load of horseshit. Yes, you did. Don't try to backtrack now just because you just realized how stupid your original statement was.

Whitey Herzog managed the Royals from 1975 to 1979. He took over a losing team in with 66 games left in the 1975 season, and he led them to a 41-25 record. Then in his first 3 full seasons his teams won the first three division championships in club history. They lost in the playoffs to Yankee teams that were simply better than them. In his 4th full season the team finished in second place with a record of 85-77, and he was fired because Muriel Kauffman had a major personality conflict with him.

That was NOT a situation where it was time for a change. Only a ****ing moron would draw that conclusion. It's not a surprise that YOU drew that conclusion.

I gave you a polite response and you responded in your typical asshole manner. The thing is, I get it. Your whole Internet persona is based upon trying to be a tough guy and responding with anger and insults whenever anybody dares to disagree with you. But your act has grown so stale that nobody really gives a shit. You're the yapping chihuahua that annoys everybody but scares nobody.

This was a better forum when you left "forever". It will be a better forum when you leave "forever" again.

Two things are apparent here:

1. Whitey Herzog IS arguably the best manager the Royals ever had. His record with the Royals and the Cardinals proves that.
2. You are arguably the worst poster on this forum. Your lack of knowledge combined with your constant anger proves that.

Everyone involved came to that conclusion.

Duh.

:deevee:

Butthurt from a moron.

How original.

More whining from a moron who dares to call himself "Brainiac".

:deevee:

Would be cool if Royals threads don't devolve into the general bullshit.

Dude, you're wrong. I know you're incapable of admitting it, but you're wrong. I've already told you TWICE why Kauffman fired Herzog.

You're off your game tonight. Usually your insults are a little more creative than this.

I suppose I started it when I politely disagreed with Dane. My bad. I'll ignore the yapping chihuahua from now on.

You've "told" me nothing.

There's no reason to "rant" about the truth.

Yeah, it's neat.

It's such bullshit that we traded for a guy that we now have to treat with kid gloves as the #4 pitcher in our lineup.

Oh well. At least he's better than David Price

I immediately hated the trade and was called out by many of my friends and some people on CP.

I wish I had been wrong. The guy is garbage.

He almost got the Rays job before this season.

He's a bright, personable and well-respected former player. His leadership skills were always viewed as a plus, and if you talk to people about his influence on last year's team, you see his hand in them finally believing in themselves.

He also comes across as a humble guy, which is s good trait in a young, former-player, manager. And a rare one.

He's going to be a manager eventually, somewhere. And I think there's a good chance he is very successful.

I always assumed it will be Wakamatsu, and I never even thought about Ibanez. But I agree, he would be a very interesting choice and possibly a great one.

I wanted Kazmir because I thought a better deal could have been had, but he pretty much imploded as well.

I don't know about Wak. I'm sure he'll get a chance, but suspect they go elsewhere.

I'm really scared it's going to be Kendall, who would be like the Milwaukee version of Yost, I fear. Too old school, too authoritarian , too rah-rah, too stubborn... And not innovative/bright enough to make up for it.

Also assured to run Salvador Perez out for 140 starts behind be dish, or more.

my phone died last night while I was in a Ned Yost fit of rage
 

If they end up winning the WS, the trade worked out.

Cueto's Game 5 performance vs. the Astros is a critical part of the run. Yeah, he shit the bed in Toronto, but they might not even be there without him.

Have you revised your Zobrist thoughts? Guy has been money in the playoffs.

Good night, sweet prince.

It's an opinion. Whitey went on to do just as much in St Louis, and I was at 100's of game during that period. Howser had plenty of heat on him pre-World Series. I'm not saying it's justified I'm saying I remember it.

Like I said I was a kid, but my dad who was a minor league player, and forgot more about the game than I'll ever know was a Whitey guy. Let's remember Dick Howser didn't have Yankee dynasties in his way either. I liked them both fine. Most baseball managers through history get shit on. It's just the way it is. Its an opinion. Just like your opinion this current team didn't have "it" and Ben Zobrist was somehow a dissapointment. You aren't always as right as you think you are and neither am i. Unless you are 60 years old I doubt your opinion is based on anything more than fuzzy memories just like me. Ease up dude.

If someone with the name NedYostSexSlave starts posting here, we can only assume it's Hootie's mult.

Thanks a lot. Now I'm terrified of what might happen when Ned retires!

and you said the same about Zobrist:drool: