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Dylan 11-09-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11873451)
So I read on this site that having a franchise QB is all that matters. I also read here that Rivers is a franchise QB. So, does the team around the QB actually matter? Or is Rivers severely over rated on CP?


Rivers cannot take two sacks on that final drive. They were five yards out of FG range, which then turned into 20.

Chief Northman 11-09-2015 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 11873443)
The Bears have swept the AFC west so far.

Would love for Fox to sweep and send ol' horseface home with a loss.

Chief Northman 11-09-2015 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan (Post 11873459)
Rivers cannot take two sacks on that final drive. They were five yards out of FG range, which then turned into 20.

Dumb play calling in ignoring the run, and we all saw why Barksdale was unsigned as a FA for so long.....

ThaVirus 11-09-2015 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11873451)
So I read on this site that having a franchise QB is all that matters. I also read here that Rivers is a franchise QB. So, does the team around the QB actually matter? Or is Rivers severely over rated on CP?


Do you pay any attention? Damn near their entire team is injured.

They started 4 different LTs IN THE SAME GAME.

They've started 29 different offensive lineman over the past 5 seasons, which is the most in the league.

Rivers is basically working with a Skelton crew, patchwork offensive line of fatties off the street, and below average defenses year after year.. And they still tend to go 7-9 to 9-7. I'd say he's a ****ing miracle worker.

MahiMike 11-10-2015 07:36 AM

Chargers too distracted with moving plans.

Simply Red 11-10-2015 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Li'l Smokey (Post 11873334)

http://i.imgur.com/doXYDuW.jpg

TEX 11-10-2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11873662)
Chargers too distracted with moving plans.

This, and also the Chargers are just being the Chargers.

Because Chargers...

TEX 11-10-2015 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 11873451)
So I read on this site that having a franchise QB is all that matters. I also read here that Rivers is a franchise QB. So, does the team around the QB actually matter? Or is Rivers severely over rated on CP?

Deal is one can argue that the Chargers have ****ed up worse than the Chiefs B/C they have had the HOF RB and TE and very good WR's and defense to go with said franchise QB and never reached their full potential. I think the thing we can take from that is even if you have it all, Marty will STILL KILL YOUR SUPER BOWL DREAMS. :shrug:

They really have been on the decline the past 5 seasons, and have been decimated by injuries this season. The only reason they've managed to be average throughout is because of Rivers. A Franchise QB can keep you competitive by hiding weaknesses in most cases, but if the team relies on that as it's only consistent asset, over time it's not enough.

ToxSocks 11-10-2015 09:10 AM

At this point i really feel bad for them. The amount of injuries over the past two seasons is insane. This season...i've never in all my years of watching football have seen anything like this.

They have so many injuries and every week another significant starter goes down. It's almost like a running gag at this point. It's unreal.

They're legitimately playing with 2nd-4th stringers all through out their roster.

Again, i've never seen anything like this in all my years of watching football. This has to be the worst string of bad luck injuries i've ever seen.

....and yet they're still competitive because of Rivers. Shows how much a franchise Qb matters.

Mile High Mania 11-10-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 11873477)
Would love for Fox to sweep and send ol' horseface home with a loss.

Kinda funny that he's 3-0 vs the AFCW and those are his only wins... it's like he never left. That game in Denver in two weeks, I don't see the Bears getting the win, but who knows, anything can happen. They beat the Raiders by 2, Chiefs by 1 and Chargers by 3 - KC and SD wins on the road. Nice.

Mile High Mania 11-10-2015 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11873487)
Do you pay any attention? Damn near their entire team is injured.

They started 4 different LTs IN THE SAME GAME.

They've started 29 different offensive lineman over the past 5 seasons, which is the most in the league.

Rivers is basically working with a Skelton crew, patchwork offensive line of fatties off the street, and below average defenses year after year.. And they still tend to go 7-9 to 9-7. I'd say he's a ****ing miracle worker.

He's done fairly well with a gaggle of spares, but I wouldn't say they've been the least talented team in the last 6 years.

2009 was their last double digit win season, and was their 5th trip to the playoff in 6 seasons. The Chargers were 46-18 in Phillip's first 4 seasons, back when they were taunting Cutler, etc and the big men in the division. Supposedly...

In the 5 1/2 seasons since, they are 44-45 overall... 1 failed trip to the playoffs as a WC in 2013. Rivers puts up nice stats but few wins. Rivers is a 12 year guy with a decent career, but will forever be in the shadow of Eli and Big Ben... and unless something radically changes, he'll never be in the discussion for HOF, nor should he be at this point.

Too bad really, the guy is a gamer...

sd4chiefs 11-10-2015 11:40 AM

LMAO It's amazing that this guy still has a job.

'The Chargers, in what may well be their final season in San Diego, can be a good team. A playoff team. A Super Bowl team.'

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ighlight=sdspm

Sandy Vagina 11-10-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11873487)
Do you pay any attention? Damn near their entire team is injured.

They started 4 different LTs IN THE SAME GAME.

They've started 29 different offensive lineman over the past 5 seasons, which is the most in the league.

Rivers is basically working with a Skelton crew, patchwork offensive line of fatties off the street, and below average defenses year after year.. And they still tend to go 7-9 to 9-7. I'd say he's a ****ing miracle worker.

Nice excuses, hypocrite. ROFL

ThaVirus 11-10-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11874179)
Nice excuses, hypocrite. ROFL


I'd say I'm being reasonable.

For the past few seasons now the injuries to that team have been so incredibly ridiculous that it's hard to fault anyone but the conditioning coaches. They're routinely down to their 3rd and 4th stringers on multiple positions along the offensive line. Their ground game is consistently one of the worst in the league. Their defense, at best, is just below average.

And yet they're still a dangerous team with Rivers at QB. You can't deny that he is very good.

Meanwhile, Alex had a top 3 scoring defense, top 3 running back, top 15 #1 WR and top 5 TE, we miss the playoffs and you're arguing that he needed more. Well, maybe if we stack the team with All-Pros at every single position then we'll be able to win some games of importance with Smith at QB!


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