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Buehler445 01-26-2016 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051287)
Actually, I love interviewing. I interview them.

Eh. I suck at it. I'm a number monkey. More importantly I'm a pragmatist. I don't have much tollerance for empty BS and frilly exposition of buzzwords. I'm no schmoozer. That's for sure.

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12051307)
Eh. I suck at it. I'm a number monkey. More importantly I'm a pragmatist. I don't have much tollerance for empty BS and frilly exposition of buzzwords. I'm no schmoozer. That's for sure.

But if you really needed a gig, I'm sure you'd be fine at it.

Although, I do have to say that one of the biggest differences that I encountered when moving to LA and interviewing for jobs is that people just don't care what you look like, how you dress, the length (or even color) of your hair or any of that nonsense.

All that matters is this: Can you do the job?

eDave 01-26-2016 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12051307)
Eh. I suck at it. I'm a number monkey. More importantly I'm a pragmatist. I don't have much tollerance for empty BS and frilly exposition of buzzwords. I'm no schmoozer. That's for sure.

That is precisely why you interview them.

TLO 01-26-2016 08:01 PM

That's a bummer eDave. Seems like there has been a great deal of misfortune going around with my friends and family here lately too. Things will get better though. Keep your head up.

TribalElder 01-26-2016 08:02 PM

Sorry bro, HP products suck anyway

Huge Problems

King_Chief_Fan 01-26-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051260)
I know. I hit you via rep. All good.

Thanks. ...i didnt need to be a jack ass

eDave 01-26-2016 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 12051319)
Sorry bro, HP products suck anyway

Huge Problems

I'm not a fan anymore. Those are built as disposables. Out of ink? Buy a new printer.

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12051149)
Wish this was the year I was getting to barrett Jackson

Wish it was too. One of these years come here and take Lewdog with you so you can explain all the shit I don't understand.

xoxo
lewdog

eDave 01-26-2016 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051329)
Wish it was too. One of these years come here and take Lewdog with you so you can explain all the shit I don't understand.

xoxo
lewdog

At least I still have the HP tent on 16 at the open. That should be interesting

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:13 PM

Say the word eDave and we will neg rep King Chief fan.

Baby Lee 01-26-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12050966)
Well damn

What are methods of reserving water, Alex?

eDave 01-26-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051339)
Say the word eDave and we will neg rep King Chief fan.

No. Please and thank you.

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051337)
At least I still have the HP tent on 16 at the open. That should be interesting

Holy shit, that will be epic! And since you don't have to care anymore, just get super sloppy and make a scene if you feel it.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12051340)
What are methods of water accumulation, Alex?

Well waterboarding

Buehler445 01-26-2016 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051311)
But if you really needed a gig, I'm sure you'd be fine at it.

Although, I do have to say that one of the biggest differences that I encountered when moving to LA and interviewing for jobs is that people just don't care what you look like, how you dress, the length (or even color) of your hair or any of that nonsense.

All that matters is this: Can you do the job?

I've done it. I'd probably be better at it now with some perspective from the other side of the desk. But the gravity of situation wasn't lost on me when I was doing it. One wrong word. One misunderstood reference or inference can wreck your chance at a job.

TribalElder 01-26-2016 08:16 PM

Also, post a shitty glass door review

Just saying

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051345)
Holy shit, that will be epic! And since you don't have to care anymore, just get super sloppy and make a scene if you feel it.

I don't know about his business but my community is really small, so pulling some shit would spread quickly.

I never even drank alcohol at corporate retreats or at any studio functions because I wanted to make sure I was completely lucid and never spoke without thinking beforehand.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051345)
Holy shit, that will be epic! And since you don't have to care anymore, just get super sloppy and make a scene if you feel it.

No way. I am a consummate professional, CP not withstanding.

And, give me all the shit you want, my industry knows who I am. I'll be fine. Just an odd turn of events.

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051353)
I don't know about his business but my community is really small, so pulling some shit would spread quickly.

I never even drank alcohol at corporate retreats or at any studio functions because I wanted to make sure I was completely lucid and never spoke without thinking beforehand.

I was mostly joking. I am the same way.

But sleeping with Rihanna didn't seem to ruin your job. Holla!!!!

eDave 01-26-2016 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051353)
I don't know about his business but my community is really small, so pulling some shit would spread quickly.

I never even drank alcohol at corporate retreats or at any studio functions because I wanted to make sure I was completely lucid and never spoke without thinking beforehand.

Same. When you are at a function, you are at work. Let the other guys hang themselves.

RunKC 01-26-2016 08:23 PM

What was your certification?

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051357)
No way. I am a consummate professional, CP not withstanding.

And, give me all the shit you want, my industry knows who I am. I'll be fine. Just an odd turn of events.

Did you think I was giving you shit? That's not what my posts meant at all. Maybe I should log off CP tonight.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12051364)
What was your certification?

This one was PMP. Project Management Professional. I had it before but let is lapse. I've got 4 or 5 others. IT stuff, but PMP is transferable to any industry. I'd like to be an entertainment producer.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051366)
Did you think I was giving you shit? That's not what my posts meant at all. Maybe I should log off CP tonight.

No way man. I didn't mean that at all. Not sure how you even read it that way. By "you" I meant everyone. You don't really love me cause if you did, you would have known I would never try and hurt you.

:)

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051363)
Same. When you are at a function, you are at work. Let the other guys hang themselves.

I'm the same when I go to PMA functions or lunch dates with potential clients.

No drinking, no debauchery, no stories.

Just business.

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051366)
Did you think I was giving you shit? That's not what my posts meant at all. Maybe I should log off CP tonight.

Log off and start drinking, Lew

:D

RunKC 01-26-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051367)
This one was PMP. Project Management Professional. I had it before but let is lapse. I've got 4 or 5 others. IT stuff, but PMP is transferable to any industry. I'd like to be an entertainment producer.

Holy shit I am literally getting ready to study for that test and will take it sometime this spring or early summer.

You are fine bro. Believe me. You will get PLENTY of opportunities. A PMP alone will get you an interview. I've seen it from so many colleagues who have it.
In fact, I bet you'll get more money as well.

Good luck!

SAUTO 01-26-2016 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051329)
Wish it was too. One of these years come here and take Lewdog with you so you can explain all the shit I don't understand.

xoxo
lewdog

I'm in. I've told you my plans. Still on the hunt

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051368)
No way man. I didn't mean that at all. Not sure how you even read it that way. By "you" I meant everyone. You don't really love me cause if you did, you would have known I would never try and hurt you.

:)

My reading comprehension decreases with the increase of dementia patients on caseload. I'm fully booked with dementia this week.

Thanks eDave. No doubt you'll find something better.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12051374)
Holy shit I am literally getting ready to study for that test and will take it sometime this spring or early summer.

You are fine bro. Believe me. You will get PLENTY of opportunities. A PMP alone will get you an interview. I've seen it from so many colleagues who have it.
In fact, I bet you'll get more money as well.

Good luck!

Contact me before. I will get you passed. Easy peasy.

And I know, it's what I've done for a long time. I originally certed in 1998.

BigRedChief 01-26-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051306)
That may be a possibility. Netflix is moving into the new Columbia Square tower at Sunset & Gower. There's also a 1.4 million square foot building going up at the Crossroads of the World at Sunset and Cherokee.

Plus, there's always Silicon Beach.

I get a lot of recruiters call me about Cali all the time. I just can't make the money work because of housing costs. Not interested in renting. Besides I got a pretty sweet homestead now anyway.

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051373)
Log off and start drinking, Lew

:D

I don't drink during the week. I know, very contrary to my badass CP persona that follows me here.

Hope all is well D-Money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12051375)
I'm in. I've told you my plans. Still on the hunt

Yes you have. Make it happen. Visit Phoenix. Hangout with eDave and Lewdog. Go to Barrett-Jackson. Profit.

/memories

eDave 01-26-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051389)
I don't drink during the week. I know, very contrary to my badass CP persona that follows me here.

Hope all is well D-Money.



Yes you have. Make it happen. Visit Phoenix. Hangout with eDave and Lewdog. Go to Barrett-Jackson. Profit.

/memories

Wha? I might get to meet JasonsAuto? This day just got much better!

BigRedChief 01-26-2016 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051367)
This one was PMP. Project Management Professional. I had it before but let is lapse. I've got 4 or 5 others. IT stuff, but PMP is transferable to any industry. I'd like to be an entertainment producer.

I got my ITIL. I thought it was the easiest cert test I've ever taken. Heard the PMP was hard though.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12051394)
I got my ITIL. I thought it was the easiest cert test I've ever taken. Heard the PMP was hard though.

ITIL is way easier. Way.

PMP is serious business.

rabblerouser 01-26-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12050966)
As many know, I've been studying for a new certification as dictated rather heavily by my Manager. I passed on Friday. Today I was told I am out of a job.

Ain't that some shit?

Damn.

I guess this is a terrible time to tell you that Sweet Daddy Williams asked me to have you "get that fiddy ready" for him??

In all serious, that sucks. Sorry to hear it. :\

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12051388)
I get a lot of recruiters call me about Cali all the time. I just can't make the money work because of housing costs. Not interested in renting. Besides I got a pretty sweet homestead now anyway.

And it's getting crazier every day, all over the city. The mayor is trying to turn Hollywood into Manhattan and the coast into Silicon Valley (hence Silicon Beach).

The traffic was already the worst in the country and its only going to get worse.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12051399)
Damn.

I guess this is a terrible time to tell you that Sweet Daddy Williams asked me to have you "get that fiddy ready" for him??

In all serious, that sucks. Sorry to hear it. :\

Sweet Daddy hasn't won yet. And if you are serious, eDave don't reneg.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:43 PM

Interrupting here for a bit.

I want to thank you guys so very much for the kind words and support.

BigRedChief 01-26-2016 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051262)
AMEX?

No, if I tell you I'd have to kill you.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12051412)
No, if I tell you I'd have to kill you.

I'm down with that.

vailpass 01-26-2016 08:47 PM

I know a very good headhunter if you want networked in that direction, just let a brother know...

lewdog 01-26-2016 08:50 PM

My Cox internet bill just went up to $73.99. What should I do eDave? That seems awfully high.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 12051416)
I know a very good headhunter if you want networked in that direction, just let a brother know...

I just might. I was self employed for 15 years at this and used many recruiters in Phoenix before. I know that game well. And it pays like $20k more that way. Got tired of always looking for a new gig though

Yet here I am! Silver linings.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051426)
My Cox internet bill just went up to $73.99. What should I do eDave? That seems awfully high.

What? I'm $120, or something, over here. And I don't have NFL. You need to hire Trump.

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051426)
My Cox internet bill just went up to $73.99. What should I do eDave? That seems awfully high.

Heh, I pay $180 per for Direct TV and five DVR's.

It blows. I can't even get local channels with an HD Antenna because of the hills.

Vietnam58 01-26-2016 08:53 PM

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lewdog 01-26-2016 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051429)
What? I'm $120, or something, over here. And I don't have NFL. You need to hire Trump.


Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051433)
Heh, I pay $180 per for Direct TV and five DVR's.

It blows. I can't even get local channels with an HD Antenna because of the hills.

This is just for my internet.

My DTV is about $110 when I am not being charged for Sunday Ticket.

I am just concerned I am paying too much for internet access and they keep jacking up my rates for my 50/mbps speed.

eDave 01-26-2016 08:55 PM

Right?

Baby Lee 01-26-2016 08:57 PM

Q

vailpass 01-26-2016 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051427)
I just might. I was self employed for 15 years at this and used many recruiters in Phoenix before. I know that game well. And it pays like $20k more that way. Got tired of always looking for a new gig though

Yet here I am! Silver linings.

You're staring opportunity right in the face in your situation, that will sink in pretty quickly for you and you'll feel good.

The headhunter i know places mainly full time professional positions though if you want to contract she goes that route as well. Very networked in the valley. I have zero stake in it other than generating options for you...and no I haven't banged her.

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051438)
This is just for my internet.

My DTV is about $110 when I am not being charged for Sunday Ticket.

I am just concerned I am paying too much for internet access and they keep jacking up my rates for my 50/mbps speed.

Really? My internet is $44.95 but we have two landlines (no cell reception) so that's $116 a month.

I pay the Sunday Ticket upfront, so the $179 is just the deal, although some of those deals expire every six months so I have call and go through the rigmarole.

lewdog 01-26-2016 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 12051448)
Very networked in the valley. I have zero stake in it other than generating options for you...and no I haven't banged her.

You know the next question right? I mean it's pretty obvious.

Would you like to answer it?

DaneMcCloud 01-26-2016 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051458)
You know the next question right? I mean it's pretty obvious.

Would you like to answer it?

She must not be bang worthy because VP would have closed that deal.

:D

displacedinMN 01-26-2016 09:03 PM

Sorry edave.

You will find something soon.

BigRedChief 01-26-2016 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051426)
My Cox internet bill just went up to $73.99. What should I do eDave? That seems awfully high.

Damn I'm paying $200 for Fios but that is with 100meg internet.

lewdog 01-26-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051462)
She must not be bang worthy because VP would have closed that deal.

:D

That was not what I was thinking.

What's Vail's famous line?

lewdog 01-26-2016 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12051477)
Damn I'm paying $200 for Fios but that is with 100meg internet.

You are also rich. We are living in different worlds.

eDave 01-26-2016 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 12051448)
You're staring opportunity right in the face in your situation, that will sink in pretty quickly for you and you'll feel good.

The headhunter i know places mainly full time professional positions though if you want to contract she goes that route as well. Very networked in the valley. I have zero stake in it other than generating options for you...and no I haven't banged her.

Take some head, tell her all about me.

Seriously, I'll take you up on your networking. I am overwhelmed with all of this support.

eDave 01-26-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 12051468)
Sorry edave.

You will find something soon.

Thanks man. Question for you:

Your organization is considering to run a project which will entail an investment of $1,000,000. The product from the project is forecasted to create revenues of $250,000 in the first year after the end of the project and of $420,000 in each of the two following years. What is true for the net present value of the project over the three years cycle at a discount rate of 10%?4

o The net present value is positive, which makes the project attractive.
o The net present value is positive, which makes the project unattractive.
o The net present value is negative, which makes the project attractive.
o The net present value is negative, which makes the project unattractive.

lewdog 01-26-2016 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051492)
Take some head, tell her all about me.

Seriously, I'll take you up on your networking. I am overwhelmed with all of this support.

LMAO

There it is!

TimBone 01-26-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 12051082)
:( Sorry to here this.

Where?

eDave 01-26-2016 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051480)
That was not what I was thinking.

What's Vail's famous line?

That man TAKES head. The man simply does not receive head.

TimBone 01-26-2016 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12051109)
as big of a **** you can be on here , I hope things turn around soon for ya

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051112)
Blow me. I'm the only guy here who can stomach you.

Love you!

lol....I was gonna say, I don't think I've seen eDave be a dick to anyone. Ever.

BigRedChief 01-26-2016 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051483)
You are also rich. We are living in different worlds.

ROFL

Why Not? 01-26-2016 09:19 PM

Sorry, late to the party. WTF?? This is all their loss. Good people who are also good at what they do don't grow on trees. In a world full of idiots, it makes no sense to let go of one of the good ones(people, not idiots. Lol). You'll be fine. No way you don't come up big out of this. It's HP I'm worried about(not really, **** em, but you get my point).

eDave 01-26-2016 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12051510)
lol....I was gonna say, I don't think I've seen eDave be a dick to anyone. Ever.

**** off TB

TimBone 01-26-2016 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051516)
**** off TB

First time for everything, I guess.

Chiefshrink 01-26-2016 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051427)
Got tired of always looking for a new gig though
Yet here I am! Silver linings.

Well,well,well,push finally came to shove. You were bored and needed a challenge any way as you admitted as such months ago in our late night convo. This is fantastic news my friend and I mean this sincerely as some have stated already. You will rock it big time even further now. This next adventure God will show you how genius he has made you and you will even surprise yourself. Within a few weeks if not days everyone will be knocking down your door. Weigh them heavily and accurately and go with what stirs your heart even if the $$ is so so.. Hopefully you can afford to sock that severance away which is what I would do if you can do it.

Carpe Diem
Praying for you

BigRedChief 01-26-2016 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051427)
I just might. I was self employed for 15 years at this and used many recruiters in Phoenix before. I know that game well. And it pays like $20k more that way. Got tired of always looking for a new gig though

Yet here I am! Silver linings.

Been there done that.

I've been doing I.T. contract work for the better part of 15 years.I'm getting sick of the interviewing and changing jobs all the time. Considering going with a full time role this time around. Try to find a home.

eDave 01-26-2016 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 12051536)
Been there done that.

I've been doing I.T. contract work for the better part of 15 years.I'm getting sick of the interviewing and changing jobs all the time. Considering going with a full time role this time around. Try to find a home.

That's the rub for me. HP is great. I had landed I thought. Naive.

eDave 01-26-2016 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12051520)
Well,well,well,push finally came to shove. You were bored and needed a challenge any way as you admitted as such months ago in our late night convo. This is fantastic news my friend and I mean this sincerely as some have stated already. You will rock it big time even further now. This next adventure God will show you how genius he has made you and you will even surprise yourself. Within a few weeks if not days everyone will be knocking down your door. Weigh them heavily and accurately and go with what stirs your heart even if the $$ is so so.. Hopefully you can afford to sock that severance away which is what I would do if you can do it.

Carpe Diem
Praying for you

Thanks Chiefshrink. Good man. Any of you bundle of stickss **** with him I will cut you. Cut you bad.

eDave 01-26-2016 09:30 PM

Karma from the GDT fiasco?

TribalElder 01-26-2016 09:32 PM

Don't work for Netflix

They do stack ranking

PMP hopefuls remember you need hours at the helm to obtain actual certification or you just dropped about 600 bucks on a test

HP can suck it, and good shit on staying professional. Don't burn bridges unless you want to get stranded

vailpass 01-26-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12051458)
You know the next question right? I mean it's pretty obvious.

Would you like to answer it?

I took nothing.

vailpass 01-26-2016 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12051462)
She must not be bang worthy because VP would have closed that deal.

:D

:D She's married. Never would I walk on another man's lawn.

vailpass 01-26-2016 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051492)
Take some head, tell her all about me.

Seriously, I'll take you up on your networking. I am overwhelmed with all of this support.

I'll pm after I reach out to her. Who knows if it will bear fruit but it's one more arrow in your quiver. Wouldn't offer if I didn't know you to be a stand up guy...

eDave 01-26-2016 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 12051604)
I'll pm after I reach out to her. Who knows if it will bear fruit but it's one more arrow in your quiver. Wouldn't offer if I didn't know you to be a stand up guy...

Wow. So nice of you. Thank you.

I'm gonna have to root for Denver now. Price to be paid I suppose.

vailpass 01-26-2016 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12051606)
Wow. So nice of you. Thank you.

I'm gonna have to root for Denver now. Price to be paid I suppose.

Oh hell no, do not sully yourself on my account. This is just bidness and there are no guarantees. Networking is just what people do. It's one stone of several you'll overturn in order to identify your next, better, opportunity. We all know you got this shit covered.

Demonpenz 01-26-2016 09:54 PM

I have lost my job twice the last 5 years. Each of the jobs has been not as good as the first. It sometimes doesn't get better. Go Chiefs.


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