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"Is Having Alex Smith the Worst Purgatory in Football?"--Dan LeBatard
(https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=302626)
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And were extremely fortunate they drew the Texans and Brian Hoyer instead of a rematch against the Bengals, because it sure as hell wasn't Andy Dalton that kept the Chiefs' offense from coming away with nothing but a slew of FGs last Fall. |
Once in a franchise type run last year, so I'm expecting it again.
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Whatever. I'm tired of having the discussion at this point.
He's not good enough but we're stuck with him. Just try and enjoy the low-scoring snoozefests until he's gone. |
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Let me know if Taylor and Bortles are the the starting QBs for their teams in 2018. Honestly, I really don't give a shit about the details. It more about about the broader message. |
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well done. :rolleyes: Everyone should just step away, and enjoy your real lives. Bitching and moaning won't change anything. It's a game of football. They will either get better or not. They will either make QB changes, or not. Perspective. If this game affects you so much, then you're doing it wrong. |
Bitching and moaning finally got the last QB benched. And even if it doesn't change anything, it's all we have.
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Detroit Lions Broken Manning 3rd pick Chargers x2 Raiders x2 Buffalo Bills 7th pick Ravens Cleveland Browns What an accomplishment. If only we could get so lucky in pathetic schedules every year, to ultimately achieve so little. |
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What wasn't really popular to point out is that the hapless Chargers -in spite of Dee Ford's heroics- took KC to the wire at home and had a handful of chances for a walk off TD win and eked out another home win against the Raiders thanks to enough sand having run out of the hourglass by the time Carr got to take the field for his last possession. They got lucky in coming out on top of those one possession games as well as facing two 3rd-stringes in Jones and Clausen. |
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He sucked under Mike Nolan, outdueled Drew Brees with bombs down field under a gambler named Harbaugh...and throws bubble screens and 3 yard hitch plays and 5 yard slants in Reid's offense. That's who he is. |
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Why does this topic make you so angry? |
YOU KNOW YOU LOVE TEH DAN LEBATARD SHOW! STUGOTZ.
****ing annoying bastard in his commercials. |
Having Andy Reid is the worst purgatory in football.
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GTFO. |
Get ready for the Alex Smith Deep Ball Myth video.
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Even those of us who lean towards the positive side of things have our limits, and being Chiefs fans... those limits are diminished each year
I have tried and tried to dwell on Smiths good attributes and not his weaknesses, and I fully realize that at least 50% of this is on Reid and his absolute insistence on NOT sticking with something thats working... be it the running game, or downfield passing But this is year 4 for Smith (his longest run in any scheme), his mastery of the system should be complete Not only that, but they have continually upgraded the players around him... this is, no question about it, the most talented group of players Smith has ever had at his disposal Yet here we are, a quarter of the way through the season, and the offense has looked like total ASS a good solid 85% of that time... there is no justification for that, no excuses ring true anymore Fact is, Smith has a very limited ceiling and we are now beating our heads against it... consistently beating elite teams with him isnt possible, his limitations are too easily exposed against the best I am ****Officially**** at my Matt Cassel Moment of Truth with him |
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Andy doesn't seem worried about driving the ball 80, or 75 now, yards down field because he expects his D to force a turnover or ST's to set up the O for a 10 play 40 yard FG drive. Andy is content to get one TD drive a game and 4 FG's out of his offence and then sit back and allow his D to ball hawk into a turnover. A kc fan used to tell me back in 2013 that the Broncos O scored too fast. Well, the key to winning is out scoring the other team. Pitt did it Sunday night with alacrity. Sure it is nice to control the clock and possess the ball on O and tire out the other team but there is a problem if you do force 6 turnovers like in the Jets game and yet they still have a chance to score late and make it come down to an onside kick. Fact is that even with the "death by efficient paper cut O" (as a reporter described your O) alex is still not really moving the ball outside of a couple drives a game and there is no quick strike threat even with macklin on the team because alex can't throw a consistent deep ball. |
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Really clears up where our offensive/play-calling issues lie... |
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Kraperdick would have most certainly not regressed as badly under Harbaugh as he did under the guy who replaced Harbaugh. Alex could have possibly won a Super Bowl (or two) in San Fran with Harbaugh and Gore/Crabtree/Davis. Andy Reid will never win a Super Bowl, no matter who his QB is. THAT is my point. |
Seeing the gifs makes me believe that the offense will be better with a good QB, but even then Andy's playcalling and 2 minute offense is a huge detractor and it will never get better.
We also need a new DC. Sutton is very good against average/bad offense's, but he gets his shit pushed in when it comes to anything more. This team has so much talent going to waste. My god it's sad. |
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And if Allen doesnt go down, we lose that one as well |
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Had to come here because no one will come play at the OM. He will throw them but if he misses the 1st 2 he then loses interest in throwing deep and goes back to the LOS throws. |
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Tyrod had a very Alex Smith like season last year, but it was better than Alex almost completely across the board statistically. Bortles scored 37 touchdowns and had almost 4500 passing yards. Yet to Alex fans, neither of these guys are any good. I'm not mad. Its just annoying that its done with basically every QB in the NFL. Bortles and Tyrod just happen to be the latest examples. |
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Because Taco John insta-bans anyone who dares put up anything more than a meekly worded, mealymouthed fight... and that doesnt even mean curse words, just a simple and forceful argument is more than enough for people to be sent packing Its cowardly bullshit I lurk there from time to time, and I know what I'm saying is true, hell the last two times I've been there it wont even let me get past page 187 of the "chiefs suck" thread, some stupid little game you people are playing, no doubt... we dont get away with half the shit you jokers do when you're here In closing, get bent you big fat turd |
If you took every Alex Smith thread posted on this website in the last 4+ years - and removed the dates and any identifying information - you wouldn't be able to tell when the thread/posts were made.
We're still debating the same issues we debated when we originally made the trade. The only thing that has changed are the excuses. |
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Clark couldn't snatch that mediocre-wagon up fast enough. VERY uninspiring. |
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Chase Daniel is a great supporting backup
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This season looks like big failure. 5-11.
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We're still debating the same issues we had with Matt Cassel. |
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Tickets still available. |
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Most shocked it came from LeBatard
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Their "He looks like........" segments are hilarious. |
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I got perma banned HERE sunday night for pointing out that Big Ben had more TD's than incompletions, I did call Big Ben what I call him at OM and I did say IN-Com-Pletions. I had to send an email asking for a 2nd chance, I even offered to serve a week or 2 ban but some mod reneabled my account. Taco and crew are much more lenient. The only thing they don't tolerate is family smack. |
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Worse than that catty bitch behavior is there's literally zero discussion beyond sophomoric jokes about the Chiefs or this or that team. The rest is just a bunch of people acting as online fluffers for the Donkeys. |
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Bortles? You mean the second coming of Matt Stafford? Garbage time stats don't mean anything... |
Based on my 40+ years as a Chiefs fan, here's how I think our future unfolds at QB over the next 4 years. We sign Smith to an extension that runs through 2018 then we trade the Patriots a 1st-round pick for 3rd-string Jacoby Brissett. Or we trade the Vikings a 1st round pick for Bridgewater's backup, Sam Bradford. Or we trade for RG3. You know the drill. Why take a chance on drafting a young QB that might fail when there are so many stiffs out on the scrap heap to chose from?
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I find it impossible to believe that Dorsey who came from GB would bring Smith back. Unless he completely does a 180 and starts playing like a real QB it just can't happen.
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that passed on carr, bridgewater, prescott and lynch? the same one that has assembled one of the worst QB rosters in the league? the one that pederson left so he could draft a real QB? Smith will be here with bells on next year |
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Smith is good enough that he won't implode. I expect him to play well against the Raiders, but look like Cassel in other games. He'll hang around the 20 td/10 int stat line, win enough games and be in uniform next year. Our only hope is Andy Reid wakes up and cuts bait; I doubt this will happen. |
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Pederson didn’t flee because he was trying to escape. He got offered a HCing position. Dorsey came in with Andy and got his coach the QB he sought given the QB situation in KC to stabilize a franchise in freefall. So, if your indictment on the GM is drafting or missing spotting QB talent that's a bit of a reach given his hand in things in Green Bay. Nobody was pimping for Carr. Bridgewater isn't even playing and Lynch wasn't even available when we were picking and without a 2nd round pick we didn't have any way of matching or beating a trade offer to move up. Nevermind the fact he's not starting or proven shit as if he's a presumptive miss. In fact, the jury's still out on all the guys you mentioned. Nevermind the fact that the offensive talent around Smith up until this year and last was so bad, QB wasn't the biggest glaring issue. But of course, making back to back playoffs, Smith's performance in the Indy game, and winning their first game in a blowout on the road in a generation by the franchise - of course the offseason should have been devoted to finding a QB!?!? You wanna argue about Smith's ceiling? Fine. Doing it vis à vis shitting on the guy who rebuilt the entire roster and some extremely poor examples might be the dumbest logical path to take! |
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It is just so laughable that an Alex fan can downplay a THIRTY SEVEN TOUCHDOWN season because it came on a team that wasnt a winning team. Yet, when Alex played on equally s****y teams, he couldnt produce anything close to that kind of season. |
I wouldn't blame Dorsey for Smith.
That is completely absurd. |
We will all look back at this thread and laugh when we make it to the Superbowl
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Basically the whole offense is playing like crap lately not just Alex. Maclin, Ware with his fumbles, offensive line... No way should Alex take all of the blame.. Everyone needs to step up. Even Charles in his debut had a pretty bad dropped pass.
And special teams with their offensive holding penalties is killing this team... Football is a team game. I'm not going to put all the blame on Alex. He's already took us to the playoffs twice in his three years here and won our first playoff game in like 40 years. The guy isn't a bad QB. I'm more worried about the offense as a unit than just one player. If everyone steps up and plays better including Alex we will be fine and I expect that to happen against the Raiders.. |
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Alex Smith. Just 'good enough' to keep you from rebuilding Football purgatory....... |
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"Just get him some more weapons." "Need more fatties up front." |
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Or maybe not |
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But better talent in the trenched is a priority for any QB. |
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Not good enough to get you a Super Bowl. Not bad enough to get replaced. Perfect for the majority of the fan base.
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Kinda like Andy Reid. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Prophetic article.
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A lot of people identify themselves with the team, and attach personal worth to the success of the team. Therefore, when someone criticizes their team they aren't just talking shit about a sports franchise--it's a personal insult. I believe that is why so many are unwilling to make hard, objective observations about the status of their favorite teams, because to admit that they are substandard is to admit one's own failings. If you're a kid or in your 20's, I understand living and dying with the team to an extent. But once you're an adult, a real adult, you've got real world shit to deal with, and spilling so much emotion and time into an entertainment product is probably a losing proposition, especially if you look at the kind of product the Chiefs have offered to their customers. If the Patriots, Broncos, and Packers are Wal-Mart or Costco, the Chiefs are Pamida. |
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Probably why as I have gotten older it has become easier to be less emotionally involved because I know unless you go draft a franchise QB you aren't winning shit. Grunhard said something really smart this morning, he said Alex could take your team to the SB if you have an elite defense, but those defenses only come around once a decade. The other 9 seasons are won by franchise QB's. Game over.. |
Switch Ben with Alex last night and we mostblikely still lose. He had literally all day to scan the field. Our Oline coupled with no pressure left little room for error. I'm all for upgrading at any position, but the ones who would be upgrades are not going to be available.
Upgrade where you can actually improve. |
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