Houston vs Chiefs top offensive grades according to @PFF
Fulton, 76.9
Fisher, 75.3
West, 65.2
Conley, 60.7
Maclin, 59.1

Chiefs/Colts

PFF Top offensive grades

TE Travis Kelce 90.0
LT Eric Fisher 83.6
WR Tyreek Hill 80.2
LG Zach Fulton 74.9
C Mitch Morse 73.2

Dec 25 Chiefs/Denver

Top offensive grades:
TE Travis Kelce, 85.6
OG Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff, 81.8
RB Spencer Ware, 791
OG Zach Fulton, 78.9
OT Mitchell Schwartz, 78.6

Chiefs vs Chicago

First team O-line solid despite late substitution at center

Zach Fulton didn’t learn until the coin toss that he would be starting the game at center due to the late illness of Mitch Morse, but he acquitted himself well, keeping a clean sheet in pass protection and making the odd play in the run game, though he was more hit-or-miss there. Eric Fisher had an excellent game at left tackle, surrendering just one hurry on 34 pass-blocking snaps, and Mitchell Schwartz looked solid on the other side. Only really Laurent Duvernay-Tardif let the side down in pass protection a little, surrendering three pressures, but still not embarrassing himself. The O-line for Kansas City has been up and down in recent years, but this was an encouraging display.

Chiefs/Jets

PFF Offensive line grades
OT Mitch Schwartz: 63
OT Eric Fisher: 63
G Jordan Devey: 63
G Zach Fulton: 63
C Mitch Morse: 63

PFF does suck. But I would still be interested to see what their grades say. I think you're wrong, most of CP thinks you're wrong. The question is, what does the independent site say? Do they agree with Laz or everyone else?

I don't buy it. No way a rookie guard is the difference between Jamaal Charles production and Knile Davis production.

There has to be something else as well.

I don't have a subscription with PFF but i just found 4 games where they had Fulton graded in the top offensive scores.

He's played in 11 games this year, one at center and 10 at guard.

He got PFF honorable mention in his 1 game at center and was list among the top offensive scores in 4 out of the 10 games at guard.

Might be more, those are the only ones i found since i don't have access to them.

I dont either

Ehringer may have been a solid rookie, but dont tell me he is the BIG difference right now because I'm not buying it

We're a finesses line that values athleticism/second level mobility over mass and brute strength, and thats great when it works between the 20s... but down in the final 10 yards, its can be a problem

Well, you and the others are wrong.

Ehinger was struggling in Pass Pro but was far more athletic than Fulton on running plays, often helping to create space.

Fulton is okay in Pass Pro but sucks run blocking. Morse bailed his ass out several times on Sunday.

Maybe if you watched the Chiefs games on something other than a shitty stream on a shitty screen, you'd recognize issue better.

A prime Will Shields wouldn't account for a 2.6 YPC swing.

No.

Not buying it.

That's because you don't know what you're ****ing watching.

I think it's a combination of the guards and the backs. Moreso the backs.

They both look beat up and slow for alot of the year.

Did they just not say Alex had the quickest release in the league, 2.25 sec? I thought I heard that during the game?

Fulton can't open holes without help.

West hasn't been fully healthy until now, as he's battled injuries since training camp.

You just wanna get me these days, dontcha Dane?

We can both split stats galore, but the truth is that no damn rookie guard accounts for all of our running game troubles

C'mon man, no matter how good he may have been, or how much he was overlooked here because of his rookie status (it wasnt by me)... no rookie guard is the main cause of of a top back dropping to 3 yards or less a carry

You used to be one of the Four ****ing Horsemen of the Apocalypse for crying out loud, and now you're telling us that a rookie guard is responsible for Ware going from 4-5 ypc to 3 or less ypc for the last 6 games or so?

You're swerving hard right these days, what happened to the Dane that didnt flinch from honest takes?

Damn man, this O line is usually SOFT on run blocking, what else do you need to see to agree with that, at least to some extent?

You're not isolating or watching jackshit.

I am and have been detailing the issues all season long.

My opinion wasn't formed overnight.

This.

I'm sorry but no, Dane. Just no.

I haven't watched anything in A22 for a while this year but it seems we're running quite a bit more power concepts off the left side (pulling the Canadian).

Wrong, as usual.

Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas, bro.

They're pulling Morse left as well because Fulton can't stand his ground.

If these people would actually RE-WATCH games and just focus on a single player, I'd like to think they'd see something different.

It's just like when a shitload of people said "Schwartz has been great!" without charting each play in the first Denver game, in which he was butt****ed by Shaq Barrett and Von Miller.

It's ****ing CP at its finest.

You and I have hit a rough patch recently, but you absolutely cannot tell me I didnt isolate O line players to watch... every offensive play I watched started with focusing in on an individual lineman

Which position varied play by play, but I do watch very closely, Dane... c'mon man, dont go there, plenty of us watch the details, you're not the only one

Then you're doing it wrong

I'd have to re-watch to see what's going on. Sometimes you pull centers on tosses/sweeps, other times for wham concepts. Can vary with different fronts as well for OZ concepts (though usually it will be the G and/or T that pull).

LMAO theres no arguing with you on equal terms, you're always going to have the better view of things

I'm not doing a damn thing wrong, you're insisting on being the sole authority around here lately... and that shit aint gonna fly, but for tonight carry on soldier... we can argue another time

I'm going to need to see some gifs or video of Ehringer and Fulton and how losing Ehringer could possibly shake things up in such a noticeable fashion.

Right now you're suggesting something that's far fetched as hell so I'm placing the burden of proof on you.

I'm curious if Sherman was taken off the field more after Fulton was put in. That would change a lot

Ehinger brought a little more nasty to the front. That's been missing, but a bigger issue from my seat has been the lack of quickness from the backs with the ol always seem gly to have a misstep here or there.

So many times they blow a hole open but the back is a step or two late grtting there. Gotta remember, with west banged up all year, Ware has gotten a shitload of carries and he's never had near this many. He's worn down over the season.

It's why I don't think you can roll with or count on Charles next year. They've suffered at rb this season

Oh, just **** off.

You can't provide shit because you can't see shit.

Might not be the best timing, but this is something people haven't talked about nearly enough this year. It's the main reason we haven't seen the consistency on offense we had hoped to see.

There's only been one period of highly productive offense in recent years, and it was the 2nd half of Reid's first season, when the line had gelled into a solid and consistent unit. The points started piling up, Smith had some of his best statistical games, and the running game was rolling. Then Dorsey allowed three of those linemen to walk in the offseason and we've had mediocre line play since.

B*tch about Smith all you want, but if we could get ANY push whatsoever up the middle, this would be a far more productive offense. It's absurd how often the RBs get stuffed at the line and fail to convert 3rd and short or 4th and short.

The line was a major reason we lost to TEN(along with Smith, DAT, and coaching the final 3 minutes from Sutton and Andy). They took it to heart and came out fighting Sunday. Hopefully they play like that from now on.

Either way we may not see the explosiveness in the run game we saw last year unless it comes off of a Hill sweep.