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Rausch 01-15-2017 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12689928)
Given how our defense has played of late, I'm amazed we didn't give up 30. I was expecting that the Chiefs would need to win in a shootout.

I was expecting a heavy dose of Maclin with them concentrating on Kelcee.

Was he in the stadium for more than 1 play?...

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2017 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 12689929)
You are the same piece of shit that argues for Alex Smiths WIN/LOSS record.

Just stab yourself, you are wasting our oxygen.

When we win and Alex Smith sucked, Alex Smith earned the W. When we lose and the defense plays decent, the defense earned the L. It's convenient how that works.

ThaVirus 01-15-2017 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12689919)
Tiger is a moron of the highest level and nothing about his post was right.



Steelers scored 24, 27, 28 and 24 points in the last 4 road games before tonight


Didn't even care to fact check him. Like I said, my point stands regardless.

This loss was just like the two we suffered to Tennessee and Tampa Bay. The defense didn't look great but ultimately held them to a low point total and the offense just shit the bed.

Inexcusable for a veteran QB with these weapons backed by a supposed HOF coach in year 4 of the system.

Rausch 01-15-2017 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12689941)
When we win and Alex Smith sucked, Alex Smith earned the W. When we lose and the defense plays decent, the defense earned the L. It's convenient how that works.

Our D did exactly what it needed to.

Our offense, as a whole, did not...

Simplicity 01-15-2017 11:59 PM

We lost... There was many different variables that led to said loss... weird.

stumppy 01-16-2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12689945)
Our D did exactly what it needed to.

Our offense, as a whole, did not...

I wouldn't go that far. I mean they did keep the Steelers offense on the field for like what ?? 58 of the 6O mins. in the game ?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-16-2017 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12689945)
Our D did exactly what it needed to.

Our offense, as a whole, did not...

Please tell me you are kidding. Giving up six scores and 35 minutes of possession with just a single punt has never, ever been considered good defense.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12690020)
Please tell me you are kidding. Giving up six scores and 35 minutes of possession with just a single punt has never, ever been considered good defense.

I love how many ways you dodge the simple fact that the Steelers scored less than 20 points.

As if the Steelers are the Cleveland Browns on offense.
As if yards matter more than points.
As if 35 minutes TOP is considered some insurmountable obstacle.

It was more than enough for this offense, playing with a fully stacked deck to win. The offense played so shitty that it wasn't good enough to win. That's what matters.

Rain Man 01-16-2017 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12689945)
Our D did exactly what it needed to.

Our offense, as a whole, did not...

Yeah, you give up 18 points and you should win. You don't give up a touchdown and you should win.

But no. The team with the media stars will move on and play the other team with the media stars.

RunKC 01-16-2017 12:28 AM

After the Chiefs opening drive TD, they had 6 drives of pure garbage. Punts, fumble or INT.

Chiefs averaged 4 plays per drive during those 6 drives which lasted from after the first drive until the late 4th Q.

The offense couldn't get any TOP going in 6 drives.

RickObie 01-16-2017 12:34 AM

100% agree - our D sucked - I don't want anyone mad at me our offense sucked too - this loss was on our coaching - 2 weeks to prepare for this shit and it was at home.

AussieChiefsFan 01-16-2017 01:02 AM

Low-key the most idiotic decision(s) today

stevieray 01-16-2017 02:02 AM

Six clock eating scoring drives is not good defense.

JCharles1981 01-16-2017 02:16 AM

It's rather difficult for Justin Houston to rush Roethlisberger when he's being double blocked.

AussieChiefsFan 01-16-2017 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JCharles1981 (Post 12690352)
It's rather difficult for Justin Houston to rush Roethlisberger when he's being double blocked.

Even harder when he's covering AB instead

Superbowltrashcan 01-16-2017 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12690333)
Six clock eating scoring drives is not good defense.

This. You wanna know who their O.C. outcoached? It wasn't Bob Sutton. It was Andy Reid. The dink and dunk offenses get panicky when they are not able to have a large number of offensive possessions. Either you are ehind or in a relatively close game based on not allowing your own offense big plays. Pittsburg shortened the game, knowing they could quick strike when needed. Haley has more warts than a Virginia toad but he/or Tomlin decided to go this route and it was genius.

Chiefnj2 01-16-2017 07:35 AM

The D was a bend but don't break D all year. Just like yesterday. They didn't get Pitt off the field, but still held them to 18 points. You've got to be able to score more than 18 at home.

tmax63 01-16-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12688887)
Bob Sutton wasn't coordinating an offense that only had 230 total yards against a Pittsburgh defense starting 3 rookies.

I's the division round of the playoffs, There aren't any real rookies at this point.

Aspengc8 01-16-2017 08:04 AM

Held potential the best offense in football to six field goals, and you guys complain..

ThaVirus 01-16-2017 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JCharles1981 (Post 12690352)
It's rather difficult for Justin Houston to rush Roethlisberger when he's being double blocked.

This is a good point. A large part of the reason Bell didn't destroy us receiving out of the backfield was because they were keeping him in to help contain Houston. Combine that with their effectiveness running the ball and Sutton dropping him back in coverage so much and it's not hard to see why he wasn't much of a factor. It was also his first game time in a month.

ChiTown 01-16-2017 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12690333)
Six clock eating scoring drives is not good defense.

Agreed, stevie, but you don't win many NFL Games scoring 16 points, while being Offensively inept for 90% of the game. The D, while hardly sharp at all, kept them out of the endzone. The offense completely shit the bed

SAGA45 01-16-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12688842)
18 points. Defense did their job. It sucks that we lost on that play but blaming Sutton and the defense is just reeruned.
Posted via Mobile Device

Basically...

HolyHat 01-16-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12688842)
18 points. Defense did their job. It sucks that we lost on that play but blaming Sutton and the defense is just reeruned.
Posted via Mobile Device

While i mostly agree, Sutton is still a boob. Having Houston on Brown on the final play was possibly the dumbest move ive seen from this team and buddy, ive seeen it all

Sandy Vagina 01-16-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 12690568)
The D was a bend but don't break D all year. Just like yesterday. They didn't get Pitt off the field, but still held them to 18 points. You've got to be able to score more than 18 at home.

absolutely true. The only fault I'd throw at the D is this. This type of KC defense limits the opportunities for the KC offense. This makes each mistake... each drive killing penalty or drop.. all the more crucial.

notorious 01-16-2017 09:57 AM

That's the problem with bend don't break.


It bends when you really need a stop to get the ball back.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrawny Armed Alex Smith (Post 12690863)
While i mostly agree, Sutton is still a boob. Having Houston on Brown on the final play was possibly the dumbest move ive seen from this team and buddy, ive seeen it all

Sutton didn't put Houston on Brown. Houston was spying Leveon Bell for the short screen who ended up going into pass pro. He ended up on Brown in zone coverage.

This wasn't an obvious pass situation. It was 3rd and 3. Leveon Bell was shredding us. I was a lot more worried about the run or the screen than I was the pass. Maybe if we had real coverage backers instead of relying on LBs we picked up off the street, we'd have more confidence in our LBs to make the kind of plays we asked Houston to make yesterday.

HolyHat 01-16-2017 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12690921)
Sutton didn't put Houston on Brown. Houston was spying Leveon Bell for the short screen who ended up going into pass pro. He ended up on Brown in zone coverage.

This wasn't an obvious pass situation. It was 3rd and 3. Leveon Bell was shredding us. I was a lot more worried about the run or the screen than I was the pass. Maybe if we had real coverage backers instead of relying on LBs we picked up off the street, we'd have more confidence in our LBs to make the kind of plays we asked Houston to make yesterday.

meh. not good enough. 3rd and 3 you rush your best pass rusher and force Ben into a split second decision.


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