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Sandy Vagina 01-15-2017 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 12689402)
Alex Smith

He also missed wide open receivers at least three times tonight that I saw.

yeah, that doesn't happen every game.. to every QB

:shake:

suzzer99 01-15-2017 11:04 PM

That Wilson drop was the most ridiculous of all. 4-yard pass in his breadbasket on 3rd down. ****ing inexcusable. Cut that guy before he screws you again in a playoff game. Reminds me of Johnny Morton who had a nasty habit of dropping huge 3rd down passes.

TEX 01-15-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12689391)
It's clear that he was about 50 percent, and that was crushing. Perhaps in that situation you shouldn't play if you can't hold your own.

Yep. He looked like he did in the Titans game. Just was not a factor. :shake:

FlintHillsChiefs 01-15-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12689406)
On second look that FN sucks... So bad.

That is a text book hold. Only your bias can't see it. If that were to happen to Houston would you say "that is a bullshit call"?

TimBone 01-15-2017 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12689367)
I'm still waiting for the day we have Houston in a playoff game.

He was there! He played DB tonight.

Nightfyre 01-15-2017 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12689410)
yeah, that doesn't happen every game.. to every QB

:shake:

You're right Sandy. None of the blame lands on the offense. None of the blame lands on the QB. The defense didn't do their part tonight. Holding one of the most potent offenses in the NFL out of the endzone all night was not an adequate performance. You Smith nutsuckling maggots need to be removed from the Board. You don't know what it is to be a Chiefs fan.

TribalElder 01-15-2017 11:07 PM

Why would they not want a tie game

The west fumble was awful, he threw it to the defense LMAO

nceagle_11 01-15-2017 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12689302)
It was a blatant hold.
For the record it happens to Tamba or has happened to Tamba 1000 times.
Still a hold. Inexcusable.

It wasn't a blatant hold. It only got called because Harrison's feet slipped and he went down and Fisher went down on top of him. By definition, it was a hold, but it was the same thing that the Steelers did all night to Jones and Nunez-Roches. Roches was held by 3 diferent guys on the final 3rd down conversion by pittsburgh.

TambaBerry 01-15-2017 11:08 PM

It doesn't make you a better person because you don't blame the refs. It just makes you a ****ing idiot if you don't think the refs had any effect on this game.

beach tribe 01-15-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 12689347)
It wouldn't have been called on the Steelers. FU

Ben Rothlisberger wouldnt have missed wide open rec recevers 5 times and there WRs wouldn't have dropped them either, so cry me a ****ing river.

Reerun_KC 01-15-2017 11:09 PM

I just LOL at this play. #1 over all draft pick. The guy you lean on to make big plays in games like this comes up short.

He's the #1 over all pick. He Should make plays when we need it the most...

Worth of over all pick because chiefs.

SAUTO 01-15-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12689406)
On second look that FN sucks... So bad.

Didn't impact the play at all

TripleThreat 01-15-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12689497)
I just LOL at this play. #1 over all draft pick. The guy you lean on to make big plays in games like this comes up short.

He's the #1 over all pick. He Should make plays when we need it the most...

Worth of over all pick because chiefs.

Under Andy Reid, our playoff losses hurt more than ever, Im young (24) I dont have many to cry over, but Indy, new england, and now this? It hurts, Im starting to realize why there is so many cry baby bitches on this board

rocknrolla 01-15-2017 11:10 PM

Had zero difference, if Medusa not cast stone hands on offense.

Valiant 01-15-2017 11:11 PM

It was a hold, still should of not been called, but a hold. Blame Eric and Andy. One got beat like a drum the other couldn't find himself out of a wet paper bag. The team performance like most of the season were not prepared and that is on coaches and team leaders.

beach tribe 01-15-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FlintHillsChiefs (Post 12689431)
That is a text book hold. Only your bias can't see it. If that were to happen to Houston would you say "that is a bullshit call"?

I said it sucks. Didn't say it wasn't a hold. As a matter of fact I posted that it was a blatant hold maybe you should f****** read the rest of the thread before opening your cock holster

Rain Man 01-15-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants (Post 12689209)

Thanks for posting that. Clearly not a hold at all. Clearly not a hold. Fisher was pushing him backward and he slipped trying to plant.

Thanks, officiating crew, for ruining the game.

cdcox 01-15-2017 11:12 PM

What is holding is defined by what is actually called on the field. By empirical evidence, Fisher's block is not holding 90% of the time. Fisher would be a fool not to resort to that if he was found in an unfavorable position. NFL officiating has created a situation where players can't be certain of what is legal and illegal. Rules are enforced arbitrarily. The officials are the deciders.

TEX 01-15-2017 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12689433)
He was there! He played DB tonight.

LOL

Rain Man 01-15-2017 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12689502)
Didn't impact the play at all

That, and it wasn't a hold. The video that gigglepants put up proves it.

Rausch 01-15-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 12688920)
Happens to Tamba Hali and never gets called

That exact thing happened to Houston 3 times vs. Denver.

There were a ton of holding penalties the whole game but if they call none at least it's even. Same thing for PI.

But when you suddenly call one in the most important play of the game?

WTF?...

kcpasco 01-15-2017 11:14 PM

Not a hold. FU everyone

beach tribe 01-15-2017 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12689502)
Didn't impact the play at all

Yep. That's what sucks.

ThaVirus 01-15-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gigglepants (Post 12689209)

Wow. I was too nervous to watch the play so I turned the channel. Never saw it.

That is pretty egregious. We've seen that exact type of play happen every ****ing week and it doesn't get called.

On a 2-point conversion with potential to tie the game you ****ing keep your yellow tissue in your pocket unless it's crazy obvious.

That's bullshit.

KChiefs1 01-15-2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12689367)
I'm still waiting for the day we have Houston in a playoff game.



He should be arrested for stealing Clark's money.




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Pasta Little Brioni 01-15-2017 11:18 PM

Garbage call that is never made in that situation. We still had a chance to stop them and get the ball back however. Another infuriating last minute playoff loss at Arrowhead added to the list either way fellas.

Reerun_KC 01-15-2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 12689513)
Under Andy Reid, our playoff losses hurt more than ever, Im young (24) I dont have many to cry over, but Indy, new england, and now this? It hurts, Im starting to realize why there is so many cry baby bitches on this board

Franchise strives for mediocrity. Don't be sad or hurt. Ive been a fan since 1987. Same as it ever was. Learn to laught. This franchise isn't worth being upset over.

KChiefs1 01-15-2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12689535)
Thanks for posting that. Clearly not a hold at all. Clearly not a hold. Fisher was pushing him backward and he slipped trying to plant.



Thanks, officiating crew, for ruining the game.



Ref saw him slip & that's why he threw the flag.



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Reerun_KC 01-15-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12689605)
Garbage call that is never made in that situation. We still had a chance to stop them and get the ball back however. Another infuriating last minute playoff loss at Arrowhead added to the list either way fellas.

0-4 in divisional games at Arrowhead. Same as it ever was.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-15-2017 11:19 PM

Huys that call was terrible. Just embarrassing bad in that situation for a crew known to hold their flags.

KChiefs1 01-15-2017 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12689613)
Franchise strives for mediocrity. Don't be sad or hurt. Ive been a fan since 1987. Same as it ever was. Learn to laught. This franchise isn't worth being upset over.



Mediocrity?




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Pasta Little Brioni 01-15-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12689622)
0-4 in divisional games at Arrowhead. Same as it ever was.

You CAN see the future. If Santos had shanked one at the buzzer...

FlintHillsChiefs 01-15-2017 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12689532)
I said it sucks. Didn't say it wasn't a hold. As a matter of fact I posted that it was a blatant hold maybe you should f****** read the rest of the thread before opening your cock holster

My bad. I'm seeing too may cockgobblers here who apparently don't know football aside from what they see on sunday every week and I lumped them with you. I played OL 4 years in HS and one in college until I had a bad rotator cuff tear, and that hold was the very definition of a hold as we were taught. Fisher is pretty bad at punching his hands out and in the two plays that he ****ed us over, he failed to do it both times.

suzzer99 01-15-2017 11:22 PM

I'm trying to placate myself with the fact that even if that hold isn't called, there's a very very strong probability based on the game that Pitt drives down and kicks a game-winning FG>

petegz28 01-15-2017 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12689657)
I'm trying to placate myself with the fact that even if that hold isn't called, there's a very very strong probability based on the game that Pitt drives down and kicks a game-winning FG>

I'd rather see them do that and earn it than have the Refs hand it to them.

Nickhead 01-15-2017 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12689008)
It wasn't a hold. He didn't impede him and it had 0 effect on the play. It happened all game long on both sides of the ball. To call it then says it was rigged BS.

harrison flopped on that play.... it was great acting!!

mr. tegu 01-15-2017 11:27 PM

The more I think about the more angry it makes me. He was running past Smith all on his own.

cdcox 01-15-2017 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12689657)
I'm trying to placate myself with the fact that even if that hold isn't called, there's a very very strong probability based on the game that Pitt drives down and kicks a game-winning FG>

It would be far easier to take. We were probably the 6th best team in the playoff field. We were going to need some things to go our way to progress. Let them play. Or don't -- enforce every rule consistently. Just be consistent. That shouldn't be too much to ask.

cosmo20002 01-15-2017 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12689318)
not even close...smith had the ball out well before he would have gotten there

By the time Alex released the ball, Fish had dragged him 3 yards past Alex and was laying on top of him.

Why Not? 01-15-2017 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12689657)
I'm trying to placate myself with the fact that even if that hold isn't called, there's a very very strong probability based on the game that Pitt drives down and kicks a game-winning FG>


I get why people are saying about "at least make them go and do it" but based on what we had seen all night, the most likely outcome was going to be what you outlined.

Iczer 01-15-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 12689709)
By the time Alex released the ball, Fish had dragged him 3 yards past Alex and was laying on top of him.

My god did you even watch the play again?

Fisher led him outside and he clearly lost his footing trying to turn in.

http://video.nfl.com/films/2016/NFL_...5550_5000k.mp4

CoMoChief 01-15-2017 11:32 PM

Defense never got to Big Ben. I think once....and really it was a coverage sack because if took 7 sec to get there.

**** this team. Where are you Justin Houston? Dee Ford?

WTF was Houston doing covering Antonio Brown?? WHAT THE ****!??!!?!??!

Houston has mailed it in I'm afraid. He got paid. Now he's a lazy worthless ****.

So is Maclin. And we have the most finesse pussy Oline in the NFL. Fisher having trouble all night w/ 90yr old James Harrison..got tossed around like a big bitch all night.

ChiefsCountry 01-15-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12689634)
You CAN see the future. If Santos had shanked one at the buzzer...

It was set up perfectly for that.

Nickhead 01-15-2017 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iczer (Post 12689739)
My god did you even watch the play again?

Fisher led him outside and he clearly lost his footing trying to turn in.

http://video.nfl.com/films/2016/NFL_...5550_5000k.mp4

offensive holding should be reviewable on this play alone.

TripleThreat 01-15-2017 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 12689677)
I'd rather see them do that and earn it than have the Refs hand it to them.

Exactly. This ending to this game is just disgusting

Rain Man 01-15-2017 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 12689693)
The more I think about the more angry it makes me. He was running past Smith all on his own.

It's embarrassing for the league. A bad officiating call at the very end of a playoff game changed the winner in the favor of the team that always gets the wins. Whether you think the league is rigged or not, it looks terrible.

PunkinDrublic 01-15-2017 11:48 PM

The call was total horseshit but the Chiefs inability to put games away and generate a consistent offense was going to eventually bite them in the ass. We saw this all year with their horseshit red zone offense. The defense played well enough to keep us in the game by keeping Pittsburgh out of the end zone but when the Steelers are dominating time of possession, you have to be able to generate better scoring opportunities.

Bigdaddy 01-15-2017 11:52 PM

Fisher cost the Chiefs a win!

Baby Lee 01-15-2017 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 12689513)
Under Andy Reid, our playoff losses hurt more than ever, Im young (24) I dont have many to cry over, but Indy, new england, and now this? It hurts, Im starting to realize why there is so many cry baby bitches on this board

Those were the EASY ones. Miami 92 [the FIRST phantom hold], Indy 95 and Denver 97 were MUCH worse.

Even 2003 was worse than the last 3

Nightfyre 01-15-2017 11:54 PM

**** Indy 95. For Realz.

DomCasual 01-15-2017 11:57 PM

Come on, guys. That was a take-down. It sucks, but it is what it is.

philfree 01-15-2017 11:58 PM

It was an ugly game and in the end we got screwed by an ugly call. We still might have lost but we got screwed.

We always do better in odd years anyways!...............

Pitt Gorilla 01-15-2017 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12689921)
Those were the EASY ones. Miami 92 [the FIRST phantom hold], Indy 95 and Denver 97 were MUCH worse.

Even 2003 was worse than the last 3

Denver 97 was BRUTAL.

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12689740)
Defense never got to Big Ben. I think once....and really it was a coverage sack because if took 7 sec to get there.

**** this team. Where are you Justin Houston? Dee Ford?

WTF was Houston doing covering Antonio Brown?? WHAT THE ****!??!!?!??!

Houston has mailed it in I'm afraid. He got paid. Now he's a lazy worthless ****.

So is Maclin. And we have the most finesse pussy Oline in the NFL. Fisher having trouble all night w/ 90yr old James Harrison..got tossed around like a big bitch all night.

You must have missed the part where Collinsworth said the Steelers were the second best at protecting their QB in the NFL. Houston hasn't mailed it in. JFC. The guy works his ass out there and every single person knows it. He had a tough matchup and was asked to do a million things today to cover up all the warts in our battered defense.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-16-2017 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual (Post 12689937)
Come on, guys. That was a take-down. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Dumb****

Pasta Little Brioni 01-16-2017 12:03 AM

The pass rush was neutured by the threat of Bell AND they sacrificed Bell in the passing game for more protection

RobBlake 01-16-2017 12:03 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2RJh2FVQAAaGHb.jpg

Rain Man 01-16-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12689977)

Clearly not a hold. /refs

TwistedChief 01-16-2017 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12689921)
Those were the EASY ones. Miami 92 [the FIRST phantom hold], Indy 95 and Denver 97 were MUCH worse.

Even 2003 was worse than the last 3

Sadly I think this might be the case only because we have grown to expect these outcomes in the playoffs. We have no illusions anymore.

leonster 01-16-2017 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12689061)
If Clarkbar cared, he would gather 200 pictures of Tamba Hali getting the same type of block with no holding being and post them in a continuous twitter feed over the next week. But $, so he won't. I watched 50% less football this year than last year. Mostly Chiefs games. Seriously questioning my sanity for continuing to follow the NFL at all.

Let's do it ourselves.

Rain Man 01-16-2017 12:11 AM

And this was clearly not pass interference. /refs

I recognize that the officials are human, but if you're not going to call penalties during a game, be consistent. Don't ignore penalties the whole game and then suddenly point at Article 7, Paragraph 3, Clause 2 on the most critical play of the game to take points off the board on a meaningless and not at all obvious play.

https://scontent.fapa1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...fc&oe=5907F60F

suzzer99 01-16-2017 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12689921)
Those were the EASY ones. Miami 92 [the FIRST phantom hold], Indy 95 and Denver 97 were MUCH worse.

Even 2003 was worse than the last 3

Nothing will every hurt me more than the Miami phantom hold game. I imagine it's like your first prison rape. After the first few they start to run together.

GloryDayz 01-16-2017 12:13 AM

The NFL's refs find the darndest time to see those holds that happen on every play. .

The truth is it was a hold. No more than what you'd see on any play, but this time dude throws the rag. Whatcha gonna do as a mere fan.

The truth is that the ball is in Hunt's court. He can either take the money the league pays him and stay quiet (as is the Hunt tradition), or he can stand up for the team and the city in the off season. I think only a looney sees nothing fishy here, the rest of us knows he needs to pull a power play with the league and let them know he can cause problems and there's not a ****ing thing they can do about it.

But he'll take the money and let it ride.

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rabblerouser 01-16-2017 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12689070)
That's the thing. On a critical play in the playoffs, you call a penalty to take the game-tying points off the board when the "penalty" had no remote outcome on the play? The Steelers were holding on the interior line the entire game and the refs had clearly made the decision to "let them play" without calling holding. And then suddenly on a critical play they decide to enforce the rule to the letter in a situtation that had no impact at all on the outcome?

And it wasn't a hold. Harrison was slipping and falling.

NFL wants The rapist vs the Cheater.

**** the NFL

rabblerouser 01-16-2017 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12689613)
Franchise strives for mediocrity. Don't be sad or hurt. Ive been a fan since 1987. Same as it ever was. Learn to laught. This franchise isn't worth being upset over.

Same as it ever was.

Baby Lee 01-16-2017 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12690022)
The NFL's refs find the darndest time to see those holds that happen on every play. .

The truth is it was a hold. No more than what you'd see on any play, but this time dude throws the rag. Whatcha gonna do as a mere fan.

The truth is that the ball is in Hunt's court. He can either take the money the league pays him and stay quiet (as is the Hunt tradition), or he can stand up for the team and the city in the off season. I think only a looney sees nothing fishy here, the rest of us knows he needs to pull a power play with the league and let them know he can cause problems and there's not a ****ing thing they can do about it.

But he'll take the money and let it ride.

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Clark's busy maneuvering a 4th NFL team into LA market.

EPodolak 01-16-2017 12:19 AM

Harrison likely petitioned all night for holding, got in the head of the ref. On this play only because he ends up on the turf, the no-call got called.

Rausch 01-16-2017 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12689605)
Garbage call that is never made in that situation.

This.

Rain Man 01-16-2017 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 12690031)
NFL wants The rapist vs the Cheater.

**** the NFL

I sure won't waste my time watching that show. I'm more likely to see something new by watching an old rerun of The Big Bang Theory.

Rausch 01-16-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12690056)
I'm more likely to see something new by watching an old rerun of The Big Bang Theory.

The only thing I hate more than watching the NFL play favorites...

cdcox 01-16-2017 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by leonster (Post 12690000)
Let's do it ourselves.

Someone would have to go through the game tapes over the last 10 years. I don't have the tapes or the time.

Rausch 01-16-2017 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12690066)
Someone would have to go through the game tapes over the last 10 years. I don't have the tapes or the time.

What's the question?...

chiefzilla1501 01-16-2017 12:26 AM

And to boot, it was a nice touch for the dickhead that headhunted our receiver to make the final defensive play of the game. The Steelers have blatantly headhunted two weeks in a row. Those dirty mother****ers might just get away with it.

TribalElder 01-16-2017 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12690077)
And to boot, it was a nice touch for the dickhead that headhunted our receiver to make the final defensive play of the game. The Steelers have blatantly headhunted two weeks in a row. Those dirty mother****ers might just get away with it.

That dirty shit is playoff football

Can't be seem nice in the post season

Rain Man 01-16-2017 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12690059)
The only thing I hate more than watching the NFL play favorites...

I would watch a women's hair styling infomercial before I would watch a Patriots-Steelers game. The league's last month is boring, and it'll be boring until they stop picking the same teams every year.

cdcox 01-16-2017 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12690068)
What's the question?...

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12689061)
If Clarkbar cared, he would gather 200 pictures of Tamba Hali getting the same type of block with no holding being and post them in a continuous twitter feed over the next week. But $, so he won't. I watched 50% less football this year than last year. Mostly Chiefs games. Seriously questioning my sanity for continuing to follow the NFL at all.

.

EPodolak 01-16-2017 12:35 AM

For inclusion in your filthy tweets, that ref's name is Carl Cheffers.

Not sure what you can rhyme with "Cheffers".

RobBlake 01-16-2017 12:37 AM

Whats even more funny about the officiating.. is that the DB should have been Ejected from the game, imo.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-16-2017 12:39 AM

A league darling got the only calls in a game where the refs held their flags...until they needef the game decided of course. We are morons if we ever watch another second of this garbage

Rausch 01-16-2017 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12690116)
Whats even more funny about the officiating.. is that the DB should have been Ejected from the game, imo.

1 penalty, unless against the officials, never does it...


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