That means cutting qb cap, right?

I am actually impressed a guy who threw 15 passing touchdowns on the season even got this far. Big Ben and Brady threw 29 and 30 in the same amount or less games played. We are getting half the scoring production out of the position and still got there. It is sad but still impressive but ultimately when it comes down to it we were just going to get out QB'd once we got to the real matchups.

Clay was right

Alex is like a 3-legged dog. He's loyal and he tries hard, but he's never gonna win any races.

Playoff wins: marinovich, O'Donnell, Moon, Hoyer
Playoff losses: manning Brady, Ben, Kelly, Marino, Humphries, Harbaugh, Luck


It's almost as if we lose when our Retread dogshit QB plays a real one. How bout that.

You couldn't see it on tv, but the announcers were clear that a ball that went off the hands of Ware was a clear catch and run touchdown had it been caught. Kelce's drop. Albert Wilson's drop on a crucial 3rd down. There were more plays that should've been made.

KC was 4th worst for dropping passes this season. That really says something when you all hate the **** out of a guy who actually has us winning again and think he won't take chances, etc. I wouldn't either with those brick hands on the other end.

This shit needs to stop

Ya... Alex has us winning... :rolleyes:

Lol

Surely weren't winning before him and had how many pro bowlers on the team that won how many games? We had 5 or 6 Pro Bowlers in 2012-2013. How many games were won? 2-14? Yup.

Lots of edits... the shit year was a drastic haze of drunken debauchery.

Collinsworth literally said Smith missed that throw to Ware. You're delusional.

Nobody hands the ball off like Smith.

And he makes a living humping your leg.

Yea. People are claiming for Reid's head (LOL) and Smith's job (if we had someone better, sure) but they ignore the devastating impact on the complete brain dead drops today.

You know what your odds are of winning a playoff game if you don't score a point for two quarters?















Around 13%...

It's hard to do that when the front office has been spending so much of their time and money on fixing the offense that you say is so competitive. Which it isn't. We had all our pieces healthy and we've put a lot of money into our offense, and we still put up a stinker on offense. Alex Smith can carry a bad offense to average. But he can't turn an offense from average to excellent no matter how many weapons you give him.

I agree we should be investing in defense. But unlike you, I understand it's because the defense needs to carry this team. It's amazing that your takeaway is to basically suggest that defense lost us the game today.

Collinsworth got it wrong and didn't correct himself. That was a missed pass by Ware.

I actually agree. I saw the play and though, god damn it ware! It seemed to be an easy catch.

The fact that you think this lets me know that Collinsworth was dead on. Kill yourself you pathetic ass-sucking ****

Do you have a nephew named tigger that posts on here ?

LMAO

He's not wrong. Ware obviously missed that catch.

The fact remains that the dropped passes is why we lost.

Is that sports video guy thing something you're aspiring to be once you get your sight back ?

"There was running back Spencer Ware's drop of a pass on third-and-7 on the Chiefs' next possession, forcing a punt from their own territory."

Dave Skretta

Article published by almost every major news outlet and newspaper. Same play.

:clap:

Fixed your post...

This over and over again.

Cool story. He's the starting QB in 2017. And 50% chance he's back for 2018.

How odd it is that no one noticed they had dropped passes too. It was a miserable wet night to play football. It's part of the game. Throw passes to wide open receivers. Sometimes they are TDs, sometimes they are dropped.

They are never either one if you don't throw it.

Whats the percentage you will off yourself? That's the only percent I'm curious about right now.

Find a hobby old man. Your posting on CP sucks.

You really think the other team dropping passes is a good excuse for dropping passes? Good one. Do you know what else is part of the game that wins games? Not dropping passes. The difference between their drops and catches... They caught the ones that mattered.

They did. But to beat a team capable of hanging 30 any week we couldn't have those types of mistakes.

From what I heard it was clear all night.

And Pitt didn't seem to drop $#it when they needed a must-make play.

This...

No, their shortcoming was mostly [ironically] an errant elite franchise QB.

Everyone squawks about the 18 point we held them to. No one mentions them marching up and down the field at will, only to have the Rapist hold his own mini 3&out of hapless passes once in FG range.

Agreed

Our defense did was it was supposed to do - eliminate the big play and the game-changing mistake.

They did. We DIDN'T ALLOW A TD.

****! This isn't the 84 Bears or record setting Ravens Defense!

Let's see. Crucial dropped passes by Travis Kelce and Albert Wilson, Alex Smith being sacked twice on third and long, a personal foul on Kelce at the end of a failed passing play, and a botched 2-point conversion late in the 4th quarter because of an Eric Fisher hold on James Harrison. And you think the loss is mostly Alex Smith's fault?

I'm not sure that it's time to move on, but I would strongly consider drafting a Watson or Mahomes if they were there at 27.


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You know I get this but it seems the successful franchises have someone of authority who recognizes a dynamic that has mazimized and rather than wait for more failure to be comfortable with making decisions just rip the bandaid off and reload. They approach it more like: If you aren't part of the solution (winning it all) you are the problem.

Think about it. It makes sense right?

It's never anybody's fault in the NFL.

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No, that seems like an overall fail to be ready to play a game...

Twelve years 2-6 playoff record Alex Smith


He beat the Saints and I think he played admirably that game because Saints were pretty potent team.

He beat Texans with a pretty shitty quarterback so the defense pretty much laid that one up for him.



Just not thrilling to have Alex Smith as our quarterback.

yes keep masturbating to that thought if it helps you finish

Elite QB didn't do $3it in the red zone.
This tells me our D had the right game plan.

Our offense on the other hand...

And plenty of instances that are just on him.

Poor throws down the field that would be easy TDs for others.

Indecision, patting the ball, hesitation. (Multiple times).

No offensive production for a huge portion of the game.

Terrible YPA.

And no running threat.

These are the consistent themes with Alex. He isn't good enough. Draft his replacement this year. Sit them and prep them for 2018. Then move on and admit you just wasted five years.


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I think the miss sack Tamba Hali had on a blitz and Ben Rottenburger hit a guy deep was really a big miss opportunity or defense had him nailed at his feet. That play stands out as Ben made crucial plays to keep drives alive even though they settled for field goals we punted way more often than they did too.


A punt that went inside the 5 and a safety would have been golden gift of two points but we let them make the big plays to get themselves out of trouble.

Oh and tackling was horrendous. Although Berry did have a nice stick at los and I saw Dee Ford make a play down the los also but we let the Bell toll.

Didn't do shit because he was errant, not because we tightened up.

Go back and review the game thread. Every time they were in the red zone, it was 'WTF are they doing now? 'I don't know, but thank you.'

That was referring to the shift from productive running to shitty passes.

It's still not mostly Smith's fault. He has to go with whatever offensive plays Andy Reid has sent out to the field from the sidelines. He doesn't get quite the number of opportunities to call audibles like Peyton Manning did with the Broncos and Colts.

The last time we won a home game I ran around the block in my boxers, in over a foot of snow, screaming "Chiefs won! Chiefs won!"

I'm ****ing 40.

I'm old now.

I actually need blood pressure meds.

This isn't 5 years this is 25 years of investment. I'm balls deep. They have to win at some point to make this worth all my time...

Please let Clay back.

Please.

You're not getting someone better. Sorry.

PASSING: Minimum 200 passes, 34 players ranked

Player Team DYAR Rk YAR Rk DVOA Rk VOA QBR Rk Pass Yards EYds TD FK FL INT C% DPI ALEX
M.Ryan ATL 1,918 1 1,801 1 40.2% 1 37.0% 83.4 1 571 4,693 5,613 38 1 2 7 70.0% 10/171 -0.4
D.Brees NO 1,581 2 1,467 2 23.0% 4 20.5% 72.1 5 694 4,987 5,885 37 0 4 14 71.1% 5/87 1.4
K.Cousins WAS 1,342 3 1,223 6 21.5% 5 18.6% 72.1 5 626 4,738 5,137 25 2 2 12 67.3% 7/215 2.4
D.Prescott DAL 1,301 4 1,224 5 31.5% 3 29.0% 81.7 3 483 3,527 4,228 23 2 4 4 68.1% 4/77 1.2
T.Brady NE 1,295 5 1,372 3 33.8% 2 36.5% 83.1 2 444 3,441 4,074 28 2 0 2 67.9% 3/64 2.2
A.Rodgers GB 1,251 6 1,268 4 18.2% 8 18.6% 77.0 4 644 4,190 5,142 40 3 2 6 65.8% 7/239 3.8
D.Carr OAK 1,169 7 1,044 7 19.9% 6 16.6% 61.8 16 575 3,834 4,624 28 0 3 6 64.2% 19/287 1.0
B.Roethlisberger PIT 776 8 760 9 11.2% 9 10.7% 66.6 10 524 3,653 3,850 29 2 2 13 64.8% 8/121 4.2
M.Stafford DET 764 9 760 8 7.3% 14 7.2% 70.7 8 628 4,094 4,379 24 1 2 10 65.8% 13/162 1.7
A.Luck IND 744 10 689 10 8.0% 12 6.6% 71.0 7 585 3,961 4,145 31 1 4 13 64.0% 10/229 1.4
A.Dalton CIN 736 11 668 11 7.6% 13 5.9% 58.3 20 605 3,915 4,164 18 5 2 8 65.0% 10/133 0.8
A.Smith KC 696 12 542 15 9.6% 10 5.0% 66.0 11 518 3,372 3,646 16 1 4 8 67.3% 1/12 0.4
M.Mariota TEN 626 13 668 12 9.3% 11 10.7% 64.9 12 474 3,229 3,318 26 2 3 9 61.7% 11/154 2.3
R.Wilson SEA 562 14 595 13 3.9% 15 4.8% 63.1 15 588 3,919 3,768 21 5 2 11 65.1% 8/170 0.9
J.Winston TB 560 15 542 16 3.7% 16 3.2% 64.9 12 603 3,824 3,825 28 2 5 16 61.0% 11/155 3.2
P.Rivers SD 533 16 461 18 2.3% 18 0.5% 64.5 14 614 4,135 3,916 33 4 5 21 60.6% 9/98 1.2
S.Bradford MIN 526 17 589 14 2.7% 17 4.3% 49.0 29 588 3,576 3,769 20 4 5 5 71.8% 6/92 -1.2
B.Hoyer CHI 403 18 504 17 19.5% 7 27.2% 61.5 17 203 1,429 1,608 6 1 1 0 67.7% 2/32 1.2
T.Taylor BUF 256 19 329 19 -2.7% 19 -0.2% 68.2 9 476 2,806 2,773 17 0 1 6 61.8% 5/110 2.5
E.Manning NYG 192 20 196 22 -6.5% 20 -6.4% 52.2 27 620 3,881 3,563 26 3 4 15 63.2% 9/85 2.9
C.Palmer ARI 155 21 303 20 -7.4% 22 -3.8% 58.9 18 641 3,905 3,557 26 9 4 14 61.6% 11/143 -0.1
T.Siemian DEN 127 22 205 21 -7.3% 21 -5.0% 55.5 21 516 3,183 2,871 18 1 2 9 59.6% 11/147 1.5
B.Bortles JAC 55 23 0 26 -9.9% 24 -11.1% 49.0 29 661 3,700 3,632 23 1 6 16 58.9% 18/313 1.7
C.Kessler CLE 52 24 82 24 -7.5% 23 -5.3% 49.9 28 218 1,225 1,198 6 3 1 2 66.0% 3/66 -0.8
Player Team DYAR Rk YAR Rk DVOA Rk VOA QBR Rk Pass Yards EYds TD FK FL INT C% DPI ALEX
R.Tannehill MIA -12 25 72 25 -11.6% 25 -8.4% 54.6 24 419 2,743 2,128 19 6 2 12 67.6% 3/34 1.4
M.Barkley CHI -21 26 103 23 -12.6% 26 -4.0% 39.7 33 223 1,564 1,121 8 1 2 13 59.7% 4/104 4.0
C.Newton CAR -60 27 -58 29 -12.9% 28 -12.9% 53.1 26 542 3,223 2,658 19 0 2 14 53.5% 6/95 3.3
C.Wentz PHI -70 28 -15 27 -12.9% 27 -11.5% 53.4 25 641 3,572 3,207 16 5 3 14 62.6% 6/100 0.1
J.Flacco BAL -126 29 -17 28 -13.9% 29 -11.5% 58.6 19 697 4,049 3,446 21 2 3 14 65.8% 6/119 0.7
C.Kaepernick SF -149 30 -102 30 -17.7% 30 -15.6% 55.2 23 366 2,044 1,633 16 6 1 4 59.4% 2/22 0.1
C.Keenum LARM -185 31 -172 31 -19.6% 31 -19.0% 43.8 32 345 2,054 1,501 9 2 1 11 60.9% 5/84 0.4
R.Fitzpatrick NYJ -328 32 -338 32 -22.9% 32 -23.3% 45.2 31 423 2,601 1,795 12 6 1 16 56.7% 8/131 1.7
B.Osweiler HOU -569 33 -519 33 -27.1% 33 -25.7% 55.4 22 536 2,739 2,087 15 3 2 15 59.4% 7/76 0.5
J.Goff LARM -880 34 -817 34 -74.7% 34 -70.2% 22.2 34 230 876 -83 5 3 2 7 54.9% 2/22 -2.

Damn, thats too bad. It's a shame there is not a way to get guys coming out of college. Maybe a QB who has the skills to become a franchise QB in the NFL. How will any of those teams ever replace their aging QBs ?

I'm a Phoenix Suns fan for 28 years... That's heartbreak. 5th All-Time win percentage, 0 titles in 2 franchise finals (1 as a fan), and we're now one of the few laughing stocks of the league the past two years.

Let's start with how many times the Chiefs have actually drafted a QB with any talent...

Hopefully, now some of you will finally realize that Alex has peaked, and will only go downhill from here.

Drew Lock...

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**** Alex Smith

Did not want and this is why. Mediocre quarterback and we are in purgatory hell for him. Win enough to keep money in Clarks kaki pant pockets but that's about it.

I'll go with "1," and "0 since 1984" as my answers.


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Smith is and would be an excellent backup QB. He would be great to come in if your starter got hurt, and manage the game. He probably wouldnt lose you the game, but he isnt one that can put the team on his shoulders and go out and win it. Not his fault, just the way it is.

Andy lost this game. I was shocked he wasn't throwing to Conley, Maclin, and Harris to start the game. Did he not think they would take away our big threats?

We held the steelers to 16 points and lost.

Shame

Brady and Roethlisberger going nowhere, you then have Flacco, Carr and Luck a level behind them.

I don't know where you put Smith on that scale but Chiefs are caught between 2 realities; A guy who can get you to the play-offs but guy who cant get you through it.

Martyball wins in the regular season, but eventually you have to be aggressive on go out and in a game. You can't count on ST and defensive scores against top shelf teams. Either go out and get Romo and pray he can stay healthy or draft a guy. Otherwise you are just fielding a competitive and while some might be happy with that, I'm not.

Yep. His style is what most teams ask of their backup QB's.

Don't compare Smith to Tebow. Or a 12-4 team to an 8-8.

As for the original post, it's probably not smart to start a draft pick next year. We're not exactly sitting on a top 5 pick.

Yeah. That's what is most depressing about this whole thing... it was incredibly predictable.

They have weapons on offense now. Travis Kelce is an elite receiving TE. Tyreek Hill takes the top off the defense and demands extra attention, creating space for the rest of the receivers. Jeremy Maclin is still a good NFL receiver (not elite but in that next tier).

And the offense is still stale and reliant on help to put up big point totals.

Alex Smith + Andy Reid is the ultimate Martyball combo on offense.

Alex and Andy would find a way to waste Julio Jones, if they had him.


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Alex Smith is in that Rivers/Cutler/Romo group


Just 'good enough' to keep you from rebuilding

Football purgatory.......

Agreed. I'm a little surprised how many people are upset as predictable as this was. I knew what was going to happen and it did. I called this shit 4 years ago.

Romo and Rivers are possible HOF'ers LMAO Cutler is dog shit.

Cut Alex as a June 1st designation and save $9.7 million. Extend Foles and pay him $7-10 million next year.

Draft a QB (Watson/Mahomes) and let Foles have the job in 2017...drafted QB takes over at some point

Romo is a HOF'er? Delete your account. Let me guess, youre one of the dipshits who want to trade for him?

True, but not all drops are created equal.

Dropping a screen pass and dropping a 35 yard big play or a crucial 3rd down have drastically different consequences.

I'm not here to defend Alex, but KC had some loser drops in this game. Andy Reid ran the ball like 4 times in the first 45 minutes.

Alex isn't' at the top of my scapegoat list for this game. Watching the offense is just inane. Force Alex to play like a real QB or find a coordinator who will. Actually TRY to establish a running game. The gimmicky offense shit is tired.

"possible"

Eat a dick

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-on-hof-bubble

Oh look a link from NFL dot com. What's next, a video clip from Sportscenter? Get off my lawn i just fertilized it.

LMAO Maybe a quote from "Scrawny Armed Alex Smith"

Smith has zero ability to raise this team up when needed. We need to get a better QB. He's not worth keeping around.

If banners aren't been flown and the murder/suicide rate in the parking lot is down Clarky is good.

Answer me on Romo. You want him dont you? You want to trade for someone elses trash again dont you? Say it

I do, and if he is Trash what is Alex.........