Try to wear a jersey with a tight end or running back number. He has a hard time finding anyone with a wide receiver number.

insert obvious "alex loves tight ends" joke here

One 'need' that hasn't been talked about much is CB...

Not a starter, but either a mid-round pick or veteran player.... We all saw how this defense looked without Peters once.

I believe this will be the first year he gets reliable, consistent play from his receivers. He was stuck with Bowe for two years, had no legit #2 receiver when Maclin joined, then Maclin went in a slump so an inexperienced rookie was his best option.

Ask Charger fan how well not buying tickets worked out for him. I don't get the hate on "the Clarks". (Which isn't represented here in this post, but represented plenty elsewhere) They went out and got one of the most winning-est coaches in the history of the game. C Hunt pays the guys Reid and Dorsey has asked him to pay. As a result, Reid and Dorsey have given the Clarks a winner for 4 years straight and are really close to the ultimate goal - much closer than many other teams.

I know there is much more history than the last 4 years for all of you, but trust me, the niners fan... the more the ownership leaves the football decisions to the football minds, the better. You hate Smith and want him gone, put that on Reid and Dorsey. I wouldn't put that on Hunt.

:facepalm: Well we know this team's ceiling. They hit it this season. What a waste of young talent with a C+ QB.

We aren't hitting 12-4 next year. Not with our SOS going up because of this season.

You really are a ****ing dumbass.

If Alex was any kind of competent throwing consistent deep balls Tyreek would have damn near doubled his receiving TD total this season.

They'll win 12 again, get a bye and we'll be doing this same shit next year.

Signed sealed delivered

Remind us who was right about cam Newton and Eric Weddle? Me or you?

lot of good development picks in this draft at QB. Guys that can throw and run.

Figure out the mental makeup, target your guy and get it done

You weren't right about Cam Newton.

He had a bad year and will probably bounce back.

Funny how in a "bad" year for Cam Newton he still has 24 total TD and his offense generates more yards and more points than Smith's, but Smith gets a free pass from you.

ROFL

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs’ QB in 2017, but he knows the pressure is on
 

You weren't right about anything. I already debunked all of your bullshit in the "would you trade a 1st for Cam" thread and Eric Berry on a franchise tag>>>Eric Weddle for however much he made.

Berry was legitimately the driving force behind at least two of our wins this season. How many safeties could say that this season? Weddle damn sure wasn't one of them. The guy choked in the biggest game of their season against Pittsburgh. He got trucked for a critical conversion and then burned on a long TD pass on nearly subsequent plays.

7000 yards passing, 2000 yards rushing, 100 combined TDs, 0 INTs, 19-0

Cam Newton will definitely win another playoff game before Alex Smith. I am sure of that.

You should dress up as an altar boy!!! He would totally rape your willing butt!!!!

This sounds like Clay. Has he been outed yet or are we just assuming at this time?

It's Claynus.

I thought so. In that case, I own his avatar and sig for a year. Clay, are you ready to begin paying off you bet?

Clay has been preaching 'The Good News' since early 2013.

Thank Allah. Need balance to the thread hijacking of Smith swallow tools.

It was getting so ****ing homers boner for Smith that warpaint illustrated was eleven blushing at the homerish bullshit.

Clay was the biggest homer in site history

What do you expect them to do for next season? Sign Romo or some other retread or just start whatever QB they draft if they draft one?????

Dump Smith and play Foles. Play Bray and draft a QB early. How about anything but the same bum we can watch fail on tape over and over again. Andy and Dorsey have done good but keeping Smith is big a fail like Pioli shoving Matt up our butts. It's plain old stupid.

Mods it is your duty to get rid of the mult piece of shit. Please remove ASAP

Those options are all worse than Smith.

Don't be desperate and just draft any jobber...that's how you end with a sack of crap like Lynch

Worse? You think we can't replace his pitiful stats and running out of the pocket scared or missing wide open wrs? Bray or Foles give us a better offense for certain.

I take it you didn't watch Foles games. He was much worse and they brought him in because he us better than Bray. Your hatred has blinded you.

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Foles is ****ing awful and Bray won't be in the league in a few years

Foles was not worse than Smith.

Some of you guys have your blinders on with Smith to the point where it's like you forget how consistently bad and/or underwhelming Smith is (and always has been).

LMAO

Funny, all he did was win.

He was so ****ing bad that he led the Chiefs to their 4th consecutive winning season, the first since 1994-1997.

He was also so consistently bad that he had his best season, in 14.5 games mind you, while leading the Chiefs to their first AFC West victory in 7 years.

Alex Smith isn't a Hall of Fame QB and will never be a HOF QB.

But if he isn't the schlub that you and the Claynus butt****ing minions portray him.

He had a game where he was 20-32 for 187 yards, 1 TD 0 INT's...very Smith-ish numbers, but come on...the guy hadn't started in like a full year. And the week before he was 16-22 for 223 yards and 2 TD's, 0 INT's.... That was in 2 quarters of play. Foles was not worse than Smith.

Oh shit, I've seen how these exchanges go... I don't want no twouble!!!

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We've all saw the GIFS of the missed open WRs, and I've been hard on him myself.

But Alex is more a victim of circumstance than anything. Fans are just fed up with the result that the 'retread QB' has given the Chiefs.. I think I speak for the majority of posters on here when I say that a lot of the Smith hate will simmer if and when the Chiefs pick a QB early in the draft.

If we grab a Pat Mahomes, the excitement will rejuvenate the fan base and another year of Alex Smith won't sound so bad after all.

I'm not sure the Hunt family has that card int heir deck.

The fan base doesn't need to be "rejuvenated". The Chiefs have won four straight winning seasons and have one of the best squads in the NFL.

I want the Chiefs to draft a QB in the first round but that's a guarantee of nothing.

The NFL is a wasteland of 1st QB's and it's been two decades since the Chiefs have been consistent winners.

Enjoy while it lasts.

The trade for Alex was a profitable trade and I don't outright hate Alex, but he is a broken player.

He doesn't have the confidence to be agressive
He's not willing to run with the ball and use his legs as a weapon
He doesn't throw with any anticipation
He has terrible tunnel vision
He's below average at reading defenses presnap
He takes sacks while in field goal range
He's terrible at identifying mismatches
He has inconsistent mechanics
He gets rattled and goes into a shell

Should I go on?

His career has plateaued and defenses have written the book on how to stop him.

Keep him from being able to run
Flood the short and medium zones
Key on screens
Get him off his spot in the pocket
Don't respect his ability to throw deep

That's it.

Defenses that did that, shut our offense down.

That's all good and all, but I want this team to have a chance at winning a Super Bowl.

I honestly believe that if Dorsey hits on a QB pick, this team can be a dynasty over the next 10-15 years.

Look at the age of this teams stars on both sides of the ball...if KC drafts a QB and continues to draft/develop well, sky's the limit.

The Pro Bowl offense looks exactly the same as the 2013-2016 Chiefs, regardless of whether or not it's Alex or Andy Dalton.

Matt Nagy is calling the plays, too.

This offense is what it is.

Why in the holy hell of gigantic ****s would you feel that?

For EVERY.****ING.INSULT people throw at Alex Smith, Andy Reid is the guy who evaluated him and said to himself "He is the guy i want starting on my football team. Alex Smith is my kind of QB"

Evaluating a QB that has already been in the NFL for years is MUCH easier than trying to decide which college kid is going to work out.

Too bad the pressure won't be on Andy Reid in 2017, he deserves it just as much as Alex Smith.

Fat,satisfied ****er


Missing Ware was much worse than missing Hill.

That rejuvenation will last until around Mahomes' 3rd or 4th loss.

Then the fan base will turn on him with the same venom as they did Alex Smith.

shit, they would have turned on Aaron Rodgers about game 6 of this year.

Matt Ryan, without Julie Jones, was considered a fraud and overrated last year.


Until we win a super bowl, no QB is going to be good enough.


Just the way it is.

I disagree that the fanbase would turn on a rookie QB by his 3rd or 4th loss. We are so desperate for a 1st round QB that, I believe, most of us would give him until year 3 before starting to ask about a replacement.

Perhaps mid year of his second season. :shrug:

Chiefs fans have made excuses ad nauseam for Cassel and Smith going into their third and fourth years.

They'll do the same for a rookie who will be granted even more wiggle room...particularly since there won't be a peep about his contract for four years.

I doubt that. I remember how shitty people were about Green during the 2001 season, myself included. TrINT was how he was generally referred to on this board. I realize he wasn't a first round pick - just traded for one - but he ended up being arguably the best QB we've had since Dawson and people wanted to run him out of town before he got a chance to prove himself.

I think that a lot of that had to do with him being a retread coming off an injury with unknown ability to return from said injury.

Giving up a first rounder for a busted up former first rounder who hadn't really shown he was gonna be a a franchise QB is a far cry from spending one (or one + something else to trade up for one) on a rookie QB you get to groom from scratch.

I understand that some will be impatient but after not having once since Blackledge... we are gonna treat him like Hugo treated Daffy.

youtube.com/watch?v=ArNz8U7tgU4

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Well, if we do get another year of Alice, coupled with our first place schedule, I think we'll end up drafting really high in 2018.

You're right, only because most of the fan base are ****ing idiots who think Smith is actually a pro bowl quarterback and a losing playoff record is considered a success.

Andy Reid's proven that despite great QB play, his teams win.

The offense could remain in neutral this year and the Chiefs would make the playoffs due to the special teams and defense, coupled with the fact that the Raiders won't win 12 games again, the Broncos have all kinds of problems and the Chargers are a complete joke.

Plus, outside of New England, the entire AFC is iffy.

The defense gave up a shit ton of yards. I know they had a lot of takeaways, and tended to stiffen in the red zone, but that's not a model I trust to get the job done, especially in the playoffs going up against the golden boy teams.

Playoffs? Sure, I'll go with that but as we saw in the Pro Bowl, it's Sutton's M.O. But with that said, after 4 years, I find it extremely unlikely the Chiefs, with Alex at QB, advance past the first round.

But that said, this team is freaking loaded, even at backup QB. They finished the season at 12-4 with 2 starting defensive lineman, their best running back and linebacker on IR, along with their best guard, while Houston only performed in one game.

This team is 9-7, at worst, in 2017.

What in the **** are you talking about?

You mean all of about 6 CP posters who dared to defend Alex Smith in anyway only to be shredded by most of the rest of the CP posters. Only to be declared "trolls" because daring to annoy the rest of CP nation by saying that "Alex Smith isn't terrible" is enough to be considered a Troll.

Is that the "Chiefs fans" you are talking about?


Moronic ****s around here are just incredible in their stupidity

So basically the best we can hope for is a first round playoff win followed by a second round loss to Pittsburgh/New England. Yay.

I have to believe that Dorsey is gonna address the ILB position be it in FA or the draft. That alone will do wonders to shore up the D against the run. I don't trust that DJ is going to return and even if he does... that he will be anywhere near as effective as he was.

Yep, i was critic of Green too.

But let's be honest here

Back then being a Trent Green "basher" amounted to calling him TrINT and saying his arm strength wasn't very good. Not even in the same universe as the the total destruction we rain down on the QBs nowadays. Much the the country itself, CPlanet is getting more vicious year-to-year.

I know. It's a Catch-22.

Chiefs.

Hard to argue with that.

Like i said, no QB will be good enough until we win a super bowl.

Doesn't mean a **** whether we draft him or not.

Only an elite QB, who takes us to the super bowl, will keep the hounds at bay.

Criticisms of Green dwindled over the years, as he showed improvement each and every year up until the Bengals headshot. Most got off his ass late in 2002.

As long as a rookie QB was showing improvement every year most would be patient with him.

It sure beats watching a guy over 30 get worse.

I don't care about yards given up, especially on the ground.

It's a passing league, which should be evident to anyone that watches the game and realizes the two best passing offenses in the NFL are squaring off Sunday.

Sutton runs the "Bend, don't break" and held the Steelers to six field goals.

The Patriots gave up two TD's to the same offense.

The Chiefs defense isn't at issue.

Not to mention a trash receiving corps besides an emerging Tyreek and Kelce here andn there not much to work with

Yeah, a trash receiving corps outside two huge playmakers.

I think most QBs would be pretty happy with a receiving corps of Maclin/Hill/Kelce/Conley. Not to mention that Ware is a good receiving back.

The same people who were loudly proclaming we had an undefensible group of skill position players in preseason are now shitting on same group of skill position players.

You can't have it both ways.

I think Conley is emerging and will be a fine #3.

The problem is that once again, Dorsey overpaid a WR. First, it was Bowe, who shit the bed in Year 2 and now Maclin, who shit the bed in Year 2.

$14 million a year should be reserved for the Dez Bryant's and Odell Beckham's of the world.

Not Jeremy Maclin, who's numbers were matched by a second year 3rd rounder.

**** you.

You said Ty Hill was just a guy.

Your ass should be banned, again, you mother****ing loser piece of shit.

Your stupid **** also said the Chiefs wouldn't win 10 games.

Should I share your rep note, Claynus?

Maclin sucked. Ware was injured frequently.

But hey, dumb****, the Chiefs still won 12 games, so they did something right, right?

I agree. BUT... if there is one glaring hole in the Chiefs defense it is their inability to stop the run. Especially after DJ went down. I also agree that this is a pass first league but that said, had they been able to hold Bell to 120 yards vs 170 yards... that would likely have been the game.

Not to say that we could have asked them to perform better against the Steelers or that the D is a problem. We should have been able to score more than 16 at home.

So you mention that Ware was injured but not Maclin?

What is even your point here? Aside from insulting me for no reason like a douchebag?

:facepalm:

I mentioned Maclin was ****ed up all season long.

Where the hell have you been?

Do you need a season recap with every post?

Sorry I don't read your every post, I tend to value my brain cells.

Any time an NFL team holds the opposing team to 20 points or less, that team should win, hands down.

Blaming the defense for the loss against Pittsburgh, Houston, Tampa or Tennessee is outright ****ing stupid.

The offense need to score more than 12 or 17 or 18 points if the team wants to win an average game.

The Chiefs failed.

Considering the quality of your posts, that's a good decision

Pretty sure that is exactly what I said.

Pretty sure I said the D wasn't to blame.

Agreed.

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You are missing the context of my posting. I'm stating that our D is fantastic. IF there was one area in which they could stand to improve... it would be the run defense. The biggest hole in our run defense is at ILB. By drafting or picking up an ILB in FA they could address that issue.

Do you disagree with that?

Our defense is not fantastic, give up too many yards to be fantastic.


Defense is solid and opportunistic