Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12929256)

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929280)

Dorsey selects Mahomes...Clark not pleased... Clark fires Dorsey.

Just being facetious, but basing it on what we are seeing in the OP.

I thought it was pretty clear.

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929280)

Dorsey selects Mahomes...Clark not pleased... Clark fires Dorsey.

Just being facetious, but basing it on what we are seeing in the OP.

I thought it was pretty clear.

Originally Posted by ClayhasAutism (Post 12929286)

No it wasn't. Man you must be ****ing stupid as shit if you think Mahomes had anything to do with Dorsey getting fired.

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12929248)

Simple. C(h)UNT didn't like the way HIS money was being spent . Simple.

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929288)

That is your first mult post? Disappointing.

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929280)

Dorsey selects Mahomes...Clark not pleased... Clark fires Dorsey.

Just being facetious, but basing it on what we are seeing in the OP.

I thought it was pretty clear.

Originally Posted by ClayhasAutism (Post 12929289)

Tell that when we have no cap to extend Peters or kelce. Canning Dipshit Dorsey was the best move the franchise has made in a long time. This allows us to get better free agents. The fact that he tried to **** around Eric Berry, shows he didn't belong in the front office.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929287)

34 years of history. We are unchained though, thanks to Dorsey!

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12929292)

Don't be dumb. Clark signed off on the move and pick.

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12929293)

Hey Hootie, what's up!?!?

Originally Posted by ClayhasAutism (Post 12929296)

Too bad I'm not that ****ing loser either. I haven't been on here for two years. I just like shittinng down the necks of all those assclowns that thought Geno Catpiss Smith and EJ Manuel were "Future HOFers".

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929302)

You're sweet. I'm honored my post brought you shit-breath comments to the surface! :thumb:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929294)

Just enough to tease us. He will take the Tyler Bray route as we churn through 5th Dr QBs, and return to our ways of hoping a SF QB becomes available.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929305)

ROFL The hand me down shoes syndrome. I will never hope for that again. I will gladly watch a rookie/drafted QB no matter what happens. We had a real small sample with Croyle who had no support.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929305)

ROFL The hand me down shoes syndrome. I will never hope for that again. I will gladly watch a rookie/drafted QB no matter what happens. We had a real small sample with Croyle who had no support.

Originally Posted by ClayhasAutism (Post 12929303)

Only breathe that smells bad is the ones who thought Geno and EJ Manuel and Brad Kayya were the Savora of Kansas City when all of them will be career benchwarmers at the most.

Originally Posted by ClayhasAutism (Post 12929309)

Oh yeah, you mean QB shit for Brains. He was a big ****ing loser. Just like most of the QBs you clowns loft up that we should take.

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929312)

Could you go back to "lurking"? Thanks

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929280)

Dorsey selects Mahomes...Clark not pleased... Clark fires Dorsey.

Just being facetious, but basing it on what we are seeing in the OP.

I thought it was pretty clear.

Facetious: treating serious issues with deliberately inappropriate humor

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12929325)

Dorsey asked permission to use this year's 3rd rounder and next year's 1st to trade up for Mahomes.

Clark granted the permission and the deal was reached days before the draft.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12929325)

Dorsey asked permission to use this year's 3rd rounder and next year's 1st to trade up for Mahomes.

Clark granted the permission and the deal was reached days before the draft.

Originally Posted by ClayhasAutism (Post 12929319)

Why? So you and your dipshit buddies can talk about how Clark hunt hasn't done shit? I'm sure you would be calling for Dorsey's head had Berry walked and went to jokeland.

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12929294)

Just enough to tease us. He will take the Tyler Bray route as we churn through 5th Dr QBs, and return to our ways of hoping a SF QB becomes available.

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 12928387)

I need to see the still photos before making an accurate assessment.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929084)

Now this is my opinion, but I have always thought Lamar, on his dying bed, said no QB to Clark in the first and he wanted to stick with it but let his team have their way.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929368)

This here is some dumb shit.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929376)

And that there is your opinion, you are welcome to it.

It is only coincidence that three GMs didn't draft a QB over 34 years of the same ownership after the Todd Blackledge pick.

It's only a coincidence that Pioli's first move was Cassel and Dorsey's first move was Alex Smith. Of course.

It's only a coincidence that the GM that finally made the move will not be employed by the team when the QB he drafted takes his first snap.

Of course..

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929399)

So you really believe that, on his death bed, with all the things he could say to Clark, like "I love you son" or "Tell my grandkids I love them" the thing Lamar chose to say is "Don't ever draft a QB in the first"?

That is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen on CP, and I've seen 10 years of Clay's stupidity.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929399)

So you really believe that, on his death bed, with all the things he could say to Clark, like "I love you son" or "Tell my grandkids I love them" the thing Lamar chose to say is "Don't ever draft a QB in the first"?

That is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen on CP, and I've seen 10 years of Clay's stupidity. And BlackOps conspiracy nut stuff.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929431)

Oh, that is the part you think is stupid, I get that. I use that in jest to make a point on my perceived importance to Lamar, not meant entirely literally. ROFL

I have a feeling Lamar might have done some training and consulting with Clark on how to run the team, and how he wanted his legacy handled, prior to being on his death bed. ROFL

carry on


**edit** did you take a time out? You have been here 16 years and Clay 15 or 14, depending on which join date you believe. Or are you just bad at math?

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929523)

The exact number of years Clay has been here wasn't important enough for me to look.

The whole idea that Lamar would have told Clark, on his death bed or not, to never draft a QB in the fist round is ridiculous. It defies common sense.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929549)

So the point I was trying to make still goes over your head, I get it. I had no idea someone would take that part literally , but I should have known. It is the internet.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929607)

Why wouldn't I have taken it seriously? It has been proposed by many, seriously, on CP for years.

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12929633)

The death bed thing? I thought I was the only one that was saying it, for years. You have read many people post it?

But wait, didn't you say my post was the stupidest thing you ever read on the planet, including all of Clay's stuff.

So is it just me, or anyone saying that is posting the stupidest thing you have ever read on the planet?

I am getting confused.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929399)

So you really believe that, on his death bed, with all the things he could say to Clark, like "I love you son" or "Tell my grandkids I love them" the thing Lamar chose to say is "Don't ever draft a QB in the first"?

That is possibly the dumbest thing I've ever seen on CP, and I've seen 10 years of Clay's stupidity. And BlackOps conspiracy nut stuff.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929647)

No, "the Hunts tell their GMs not to draft a QB in the 1st" thing. Still coming up even AFTER we drafted a QB in the first.

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12929789)

"Clark, who over the next few weeks will be hiring the fourth Chiefs GM in the last decade."

This is what stands out to me. At some point, you have to realize, it's not everyone else Hunt, it's you.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12929726)

Just sad as ****.

These guys were turning the next major corner and building something very special. And some people think the Chiefs are just going to plug and play another body in to that role and keep achieving the same results?

Not a chance in hell.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12929802)

especially in late June like there's elite GMs just sitting at home on the couch waiting for that call 2-3 months before the season starts lol

Originally Posted by ftballfan01 (Post 12929007)

(Owners name) told us today that he's heard that the Dorsey/Hunt relationship has really sizzled. First off, anyone like Kietzman saying anything about Mahomes is a lie. Everybody loved him and Andy knew full well that he had work to do with him, so don't believe anything about Mahomes being a factor in this decision.



The GB issue was part of this factor. Clark knows that Dorsey has friends in GB and still talks to them all the time. When this rumor came out, Clark confronted Dorsey about this in his weekly meeting with him. Dorsey reiterated that this was his dream job, but that that was something he used to want when he was in GB. Clark wasn't too happy about that but was okay with offering a deal that would show loyalty here.



Contracts were a big problem in Clark's mind, and he didn't like how we kept having these bad deals with bad cap moves. Clark was not happy at all about how the Eric Berry situation unfolded. That situation got so bad last year that Eric Berry would not speak to Dorsey. He avoided him throughout the season and didn't want to have anything to do with him for a long time. This was due to the insurance fiasco.



If it wasn't for Clark, Berry wouldn't have signed. Andy and Clark had to step in and help get that signing done bc of the animosity from Berry, his family and agent to Dorsey.



This led Clark to do a complete root cause analysis of the entire management in personnel. Normally this wouldn't happen because of the great success we've had.



It was no secret that Clark didn't like some of the contracts that were given out and the way they were formulated. Dorsey acknowledged this and fired Trip McCracken while hiring his new guy.



In regards to your question about Andy being on edge-



This was because of players missing OTA's. It's usually normal, but Eric Berry apparently told Andy he needed more time away because he was still upset about the contract drama. This led to Andy snapping at the media.



Andy and Clark were furious at Dorsey for how he handled Maclin's release. Maclin was enraged about what happened. Andy initially wanted to have a man-to-man talk about this. What happened happened and Andy called Maclin right after to talk to him.

Mark Donovan was pissed off about the bad publicity that came from Maclin's release.



Finally, Clark was okay with giving Dorsey another chance with a new cap strategist, but Dorsey wasn't pleased with the dollars he was getting. Clark was not happy about this because he had just stepped in to do Dorsey's job and sign Berry.



Adding in the contract missteps and GB drama to this situation made this easy for Clark.



Brett Veach is the obvious favorite for GM. We'll have some external candidates come in but it would have to be a slam dunk candidate to make them pass on Veach.

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 12929827)

Great managers (read owners in this case) know that sometimes you bypass overall company (team) interests in favor of employees (players). I don't know if this was the case or not, but if players feel that the team will do right by them, that often makes the difference in signing or not. There was clearly as caustic situation between Berry and Dorsey, the release of Maclin was amateurish, and then there's the GB rumors.
Somewhere between Ballard's departure and now something happened, besides money, that couldn't be forgiven. Clark isn't cheap. Clark isn't stupid. If you've ever spent any time around guys that were in the Goldman-Sachs leadership program, it's always about bottom line performance. Either you're doing your job consistent with company goals or you're gone.

Originally Posted by Grim (Post 12928258)

The Chiefs gambled pretty big on Mahomes.
The Chiefs front-office folk look, pretty much, like I'd expect them to in this video. They look like a group of guys who just laid down a large bet. Nervous as hell.

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12929789)

"Clark, who over the next few weeks will be hiring the fourth Chiefs GM in the last decade."

This is what stands out to me. At some point, you have to realize, it's not everyone else Hunt, it's you.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12929852)

Letting a safety and a linebacker and their agents help dictate actions by your coach and owner in regards to the FO is not a good look.

That would be like HaHa Clinton Dix and Clay Matthews going to Mike McCarthy and saying I am unhappy with Ted Thompson, I am not talking to him or re-signing new deals, figure it out and get rid of him.

Packers would laugh them out of the building on their first flight to any other team.

I long for the day where the Chiefs get an established franchise QB and the position players just fall in line. Mahomes can't develop fast enough.

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12929789)

"Clark, who over the next few weeks will be hiring the fourth Chiefs GM in the last decade."

This is what stands out to me. At some point, you have to realize, it's not everyone else Hunt, it's you.

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12929898)

Remember this is the organization the allowed a placekicker to dictate a coaches fate and Lamar followed up on it.

Originally Posted by splatbass (Post 12929523)

The whole idea that Lamar would have told Clark, on his death bed or not, to never draft a QB in the fist round is ridiculous. It defies common sense.

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12929813)

So it comes down to a couple of hurt feelings? Maclin should have answered his ****ing phone, he didn't he can go **** himself



Love EB but would rather have Dorsey if it came down to it. I don't blame Dorsey for the insurance fiasco. Seems like Dorsey was trying to do what was best for the franchise, not for individual players

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12929902)

it's stupid; Belichick operates that way on a daily basis in New England and gets praised for it.

Dorsey doesn't have the rings to back it up, follows a similar style and gets basically fired cause some position players feelings are hurt because of and x and y reasons.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929931)

Berry will be gone in a few years...the GM stays for much longer.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12929936)

Berry has already outlived two GM's and at this rate, it's likely to be three,

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12929789)

"Clark, who over the next few weeks will be hiring the fourth Chiefs GM in the last decade."

This is what stands out to me. At some point, you have to realize, it's not everyone else Hunt, it's you.

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929931)

Shame on Hunt/Reid for pampering Berry and catering to his hurt "feels". Pull that shit in New England and you get sent to the Browns.

There has to be a chain of command in any structure....and the players know not to **** with Belichick. He's like "you dont like it...fine...bye".

In KC, just pout until you get your way...and the owner is more concerned with bad press and his marketable safety's happiness.

Berry will be gone in a few years...the GM stays for much longer.

Sounds like it really is a family atmosphere at Arrowhead One..a dysfunctional one like everyone else.

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 12929914)

But you do best for the franchise by doing what's best for the players. At the end of the day the players make your franchise.


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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 12929956)

After following this team for 35+ years...it looked like they finally stumbled onto that rare GM/head coach chemistry. Good cop/bad cop. Then the rookie owner mingles and ****s it up...why am I not surprised. He did create the Haley/Cassel/Pioli cluster****.

I'm starting to believe Berry's persona is horseshit...he doesn't seem grateful/humble at all.