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i know. me too. with all our free agents, im walking around on eggshells.

Soler and Mondesi will be good. Lineup should be ok, Hosmer maybre-sign.


Rotation sucks tho, no doubt. Wtf ever happened to Almonte?

What?

It would be appear my daughter managed to post to Chiefsplanet this morning while we were getting ready. My bad, guys. I got nothing!


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Details are just starting to spill out but it looks like the Braves got hammered for breaking MLB rules in the international market. Going to be several good prospects declared free agents.

They deserved to be hammered. There's a reason Dayton didnt go

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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***
 

Biggest thing I saw - other than being stripped of 12 guys, basically all their Latin America talent - is that they're limited to 10k bonuses through 2020. That's the type of budget Pre-Dayton Moore Royals front office worked with. Not good, gang. Not good. They're not signing ANY talent from Latin America for the next 3 years.

That's ****ing brutal.

Acuna appears safe. I'm not sure MLB could've come up with any basis at all to strip them of his rights apart from "**** you, that's why".

But yeah, it seems pretty apparent that they're losing their entire 2016 international signing class. Maitan hurts the worst but that 2016 class was seen to be the foundation of their rebuild and widely regarded as one of the better international signing classes of the last several years. That's gonna sting for awhile.

Royals add three players to Major League reserve list

Anthopoulos is going to have to move some arms from within their tremendous depth of Starting Pitching prospects to supplement the bats now.

Albies , Swanson, Acuna, and Freeman are a nice grouping, but they need another guy or two around that group to really make a run over the next 5-6 years.


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The problem is that Swanson may not actually be that good afterall. I like Albies well enough but you always get a little wary when someone performs a lot better over a small sample as you expected (then again, not falling flat on your face as a 20 yr old in the big leagues is pretty damn impressive either way).

Honestly, if they could move Freeman they would be wise to do so. This whole thing puts their rebuild behind Freeman's prime. They need to re-set their clock to 4-5 years away because if nothing else this costs them a ton of organizational capital that could've been flipped to help the big league roster now.

I know you don't want to rebuild right after a rebuild, but if they could flip Freeman and Inciarte for the kind of hauls that Eaton returned, they could get their age/service time all lined back up for a push in 2022 or so.

I don't see a path forward for a team centered on Freeman and I think Inciarte's contract makes him too valuable to hold on to for a 90 loss team. When the Cardinals inevitably strike out on Stanton due to organizational cowardice/hubris, they would be well served to package some of that prospect/pitching depth and make a call to Atlanta to see if Reyes/Freeman gets some traction. Freeman's probably worth about $25-30 million more than his contract over the next 4 years which isn't a ton of surplus value but it certainly carries some weight. Reyes comes with 5 years of control, though one of them will be hampered by his rehab next season. 4 'full boat' years of Reyes at pre-arb/arb levels is probably a pretty nice return for 4 years of Freeman at an 80% discount.

And if Inciarte could be moved to a team like the Yankees who could use a table-setter and longer term answer in CF. If they can get Otani, they may well be willing to make a move like Sheffield and Acevedo for a nice young CFer with a ton of under-valued team control like Inciarte.

Suddenly the Braves would have a hell of a lot of young arm talent in their system and have freed up some payroll to make another move in a couple years when their rebuild will have clearer picture. I know arms were already their strength but I think that's how you have to operate if you're rebuilding. Get the pitching, find out what your foundation is (due to the attrition rate of arms) and then if needed, supplement with trades.

Things are just too hazy for them to move arms right now, IMO.

She’s still a better poster than most on the main board

Better takes: me or her?

I can't believe they are going to try and re-sign Hosmer. Huge mistake blow this thing up like the Astros did.

And the A's!

They are going to price enforce and make sure they at least make a public effort. If the market doesn't come together and they can get him cheaper than expected, they'll be there.

But if Boras gets his bidding war, the Royals will bow out pretty quickly. I don't expect they'll go over 5/$100 and I figure he'll demand more term than that.

I remember when the market didn't come together for Gordon either. Not saying he will be that bad but in 3-5 years he will suffer from a sharpe decline. That's deveststing for a team like the Royals.

You, for sure. Terrible 2s times 2.


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What the Royals should do is take a real good look into those prospects from the Braves that are declared free-agents. They're definitely young and wouldn't cost much, IMHO.

3 is worse. I was warned, didn't believe, but now I'm warning you.

The whining becomes "No!"

3 is definitely worse.

I believe it. Everyone says it. Our daughter is strong-willed and already very fond of "No." they're both strong-willed, for that matter.

Re: Maitan, yes, KC should absolutely look at signing him if they have the space available in their 2018 pool (some of that has already been planned/allocated, I'd imagine. Have to protest relationships and can't easily just back out of things).

Your daughter's post in this thread was better than anything Dane posted earlier, so she's got that going for her.

Hey, **** you, you ****ing **** ****. Nobody ****ing ****s with me that ****ing way. Dumbsh*t mother****er

Are you Dane's daughter?

:D

Duncan, your daughter just sent me a neg rep that said, "nhdsd swimming erdsdfsd GET AIDS, BITCH!!!!"

Sounds accurate. She's salty.


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Hootie just asked Duncan's daughter for $5 to join his new Fanduel team

Now that's funny !!!

http://www.610sports.com/media/audio...n-moore-studio

Dayton spent an hour with 610 this morning. Covered a lot of ground.

-Still seemed optimistic about Hosmer. Talked way more about him than any other player, by far. They're going to let the market come to them. These things take a long time to play out. Defended his defensive metrics. Said their analytics guys like him.
-Said payroll will probably come down to 110-120 million. But he seems to say that every year. Said they overspent their budget the last two years trying to put a championship team together and it didn't work.
-Made it clear they were not going to tank like some people think they should.
-Despite that, he seemed to talk like if Hosmer leaves, they might just let the other guys walk and start over.
-Talked a fair bit about how they can't build a team now like they built the last great farm system. Before they could budget and outspend other teams in the draft and now that's against the rules. Said the best way to acquire that kind of talent now is to have high draft picks.
-Spoke highly of Nicky Lopez. Said there was a lot of interest in him at the trade deadline but they decided from the start that they would not trade him.

Also talked a lot about Ned Yost getting hurt, and the Chiefs.

If Hosmer isn't back I hope they sign Logan Morrison

Not sure if I'd want Hos or Moose. Moose's power would be nice but Hos is probably to more well-rounded player

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Is it bad that I really hope none of them come back?

I don't want them back. We're still a bad team with them and we don't have many reinforcements coming any time soon.

Leadership is overrated but Hosmer is pretty good at Manning the ship

Whose mult is this?

I hope they sign absolutely no one and trade everyone of value.

Trust the process.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals let Terrance Gore become a free agent, sign Mike Morin to one-year contract <a href="https://t.co/eKDBL8Zw4I">https://t.co/eKDBL8Zw4I</a></p>&mdash; Jeff Rosen (@jeff_rosen88) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeff_rosen88/status/936740247500619776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 1, 2017</a></blockquote>
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All of our heroes are dead.

My wife is going to be pissed.

Pfft

I saw game 2 of the 2014 ALDS in Anaheim and remember Gore stealing 2nd. We were above first base, upper deck.

I've never seen a human being run that fast in my life. And he hit 2nd base so hard I thought that either his leg, the base, or both, would literally explode.

Gore was re-signed to a minor league deal.

Shohei Otani cuts are starting to come out. Boston, New York, ChiSox, Tampa, Arizona, Minnesota all notably eliminated (Twins and Yanks had the biggest bonus pools). Several other teams also reportedly eliminated.

Royals are one of 15 or so to make the cut. He's said to be looking for a small market team, preferably on the West Coast. Think that pretty much has to mean Seattle.

But hey. It's cool. This is like when a non-blue blood college football makes the initial cut to 20 teams for the top player in the country.


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Eric Hosmer hit .318 with 25 homers and won his fourth Gold Glove. His agent, Scott Boras, has been casting Hosmer as a human ticket into the postseason because of Hosmer’s leadership and history of success with the Royals.

But as with Cozart, there appear to be very few potential bidders because so many big-market teams look set at first base:

Yankees: Greg Bird

Phillies: Rhys Hoskins

Nationals: Ryan Zimmerman

Dodgers: Cody Bellinger

Diamondbacks: Paul Goldschmidt

Orioles: Chris Davis

Cubs: Anthony Rizzo

Astros: Yuli Gurriel

Braves: Freddie Freeman

Jays: Justin Smoak

The Giants might prefer an upgrade on Brandon Belt, but he’s early in a long-term contract, and San Francisco is focused on Giancarlo Stanton for the moment. The Mets are looking for a short-term investment at first.

The Red Sox need a first baseman and are talking with the White Sox about Jose Abreu, plus they might simply be scared off by Hosmer’s high price tag. “If the Red Sox aren’t in on Hosmer,” a longtime agent said, “he could be in a tough spot. He needs the Red Sox almost as much as the Red Sox could use him.” Hosmer has been linked to the Padres as well, and San Diego has payroll flexibility, but the Padres also have a first baseman, Wil Myers, under a long-term contract.

What's more, the list of free-agent first basemen who will be less expensive than Hosmer is long: Carlos Santana, Yonder Alonso, Lucas Duda, Adam Lind, Mitch Moreland, Logan Morrison, Mark Reynolds and Mike Napoli.

http://www.espn.com/blog/buster-olne...ith-contenders



Forgot Texas. Also, NYY doesn't want Greg Bird at 1B anyway

@Ken_Rosenthal: Free-agent left-hander Mike Minor in agreement with #Rangers, sources tell The Athletic. Terms not known. Performance as reliever last season, background as starter gives Texas options.

That's not good....

@JeffPassan: Mike Minor has a multiyear deal with the Rangers and is expected to start, as sources confirm @Ken_Rosenthal report. And this may be the signing that breaks the free agent dam. There’s a lot of movement in the pitching market happening now, and it may start to move quickly here.

I just can't see Minor's shoulder holding up to a starting workload any longer. He could never get built up consistently to 100 pitches in multiple outings in a row at Omaha in 16. But good on him.


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Little bit of action on the Royals front this morning. Nice to see Dayton trying to snag some of that Braves talent they had to forfeit. Guess this takes us out of the Ohtani sweepstakes though :D

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">18-year-old Dominican RHP Yefri Del Rosario signs with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a>. First of 12 former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Braves?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Braves</a> prospects to sign with another team. Originally signed with <a href="https://twitter.com/Braves?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Braves</a> for $1 million during 2016-17 period. Posted 3.62 ERA, 1.39 WHIP between DSL &amp; GCL in <a href="https://twitter.com/MiLB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MiLB</a> debut this year. <a href="https://t.co/OX90iN9ePY">https://t.co/OX90iN9ePY</a></p>&mdash; MLB Pipeline (@MLBPipeline) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/938077050862268416?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2017</a></blockquote>
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@JesseSanchezMLB: Rosario had multiple offers and turned down more money to sign with KC. The reason? His baseball idol was Yordano Ventura and he wants to pitch in the same organization where his hero once pitched.

Chills. Imagine how many kids in LA watched YV just absolutely dominate the 2014 WS AND 2015 ALCS. Pretty amazing to see his legacy live on in this way.

If we had Ventura last year, we would have been a wild card team IMO.

On to Royals tv rights. Disney is close to buying Fox's regional sports networks. Hello ESPN Kansas City.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/disn...--sources.html

Good luck with that, Rangers. He'll be back in the bullpen by mid-year or on the DL. I'm surprised he was signed so early in the period...especially as a starter.

He was easily my favorite arm from that 'lost class' with the Braves. Real nice potential there.

Maitan just signed with LAA, for anyone that was still holding out hope on him; $2.2 million bonus.

This is either really really good or really bad. Need moar information.

Absolutely. Hard to blame GMDM for that, though many still do.

Wily Peralta joins the Royals.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/ba...s-with-royals/

Just to correct the article, it's a one-year deal with a club option for 2019.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Royals sign Wily Peralta to one-year deal. Contract details: $1.525M guaranteed. $1.5M in 2018, $3M club option in 2019. 25,000 buyout</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/938165460394217474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 5, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sure, why not?

Gonna be these types of moves I assume.

Power arm, struggled as a starter, move him to bullpen -- voila, Wade Davis II!

He sucked in the pen to.

He hasn't been coached by Eldred the Magician yet.

It's literally a no-risk proposition. :shrug:

His name is Eiland...and we let him go, he is with the mets now.

Boy, some of you guys need to get a sense of humor.

But also, Cal Eldred (a former pitcher), has been in Royals management and is on the list to replace Eiland. He was being facetious and insightful all at the same time!

I’m with you, brother. People are wound too tight.

Maybe you're just too large for them.

Heh

That's what staylor said when you were skull ****ing him. :clap:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals remain active on international market. According to sources, KC agreed to a deal with former Braves int’l OF prospect Juan Carlos Negret. On Tuesday, the club agreed to a $650K deal with RHP Yefri Del Rosario, also a former ATL prospect granted free agency. <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MLBPipeline</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Sanchez (@JesseSanchezMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseSanchezMLB/status/938610978668736513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Appears to be an 18 year old from Cuba. By all accounts he was having a real nice year for the Braves Dominican summer league team before an injury slowed him down. Listed at 6'1" 190, he took a decent amount of walks and stole a ton of bases. 27 walks and 23 SB in 50 games.

Also showed really solid power until he broke the hammate bone in his hand. Slugged over .500 before that happened, which is promising.

Y'all got two of the 5 guys I really liked out of that Braves class. Negret was probably my favorite OFer of the bunch and Del Rosario definitely my favorite arm.

That's a couple of nice little boosts to your system; I wouldn't be surprised if they both slotted in your top 20 pretty easily; maybe even top 10.

This offseason feels a lot like the exciting farm system offseasons of 2010-12'.