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Kiimo 04-24-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224786)
Someone, please remind me ... who is Steve?

FAX

https://media.tenor.com/images/899b0...c012/tenor.gif

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:11 PM

Profootballtalk hates Tyreek Hill. Florio was on a couple days ago saying how we should expect Tyreek to be suspended

siberian khatru 04-24-2019 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 14224899)
Probably going to announce that Frank Clark convinced Tyreek to beat his kid while Kareem Hunt videotaped it. #BecauseChiefs

And Patrick Mahomes sold it on the Dark Web.

comochiefsfan 04-24-2019 12:11 PM

It will be a PR nightmare if Hill is found guilty right after we signed Clark. No way the Chiefs are that stupid and I think that's the most positive sign about this whole thing.

In58men 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

He good

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

DC just held a press conference saying everything was fine and no collusion

KCUnited 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

Because Steve

Red Dawg 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14224917)
And Patrick Mahomes sold it on the Dark Web.

Ban this man! Bringing Mahomes into this should be a crime.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14224921)
He good

Exactly my thoughts as well!! Contract extension please!!

In58men 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224916)
Profootballtalk hates Tyreek Hill. Florio was on a couple days ago saying how we should expect Tyreek to be suspended

Suspended for being innocent?

Seems fair.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 14224927)
Suspended for being innocent?

Seems fair.

They did it to Zeke a couple years ago.

Halfcan 04-24-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14224834)
The Clark stuff seemed to augur positive things for this situation...

...And then this. I'm no expert and could be very wrong, but how often does a DA announce publicly like this that charges are being filed? Wouldn't that be the height of grandstanding? Isn't it more likely that he's going to announce the opposite? That Hill has been cleared?

Maybe the above is more hope than reality.

Exactly, but Hill has already been convicted by the media.

Simply Red 04-24-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224922)
DC just held a press conference saying everything was fine and no collusion

Defense Clerk?

Mecca 04-24-2019 12:13 PM

I'm sure no matter what he says Brooke Pryor will write yet another sjw article about it...somehow connecting it to the Clark trade.

If he says Hill is not guilty of anything she'll basically do 1000 words on how he got off because of his fame and it's a sad day for women and children.

JakeF 04-24-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 14224795)
Well, it at least is before the draft.

They already shipped off their 1st rd pick. Are we going to replace Hill with a pick at the bottom of the 2nd round? What about our defense?

FAX 04-24-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14224896)
What do you mean, FAX?

I mean I develop anxiety when confronted with perpetual change. I've seen all good people look into the lens only to shoot high and aim low.

(I think that about cover it.)

FAX

Red Dawg 04-24-2019 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 14224920)
It will be a PR nightmare if Hill is found guilty right after we signed Clark. No way the Chiefs are that stupid and I think that's the most positive sign about this whole thing.

Maybe they knew it was good news. Maybe it's a cover up. Maybe Clark used his wallet to buy off everyone.

Sassy Squatch 04-24-2019 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224916)
Profootballtalk hates Tyreek Hill. Florio was on a couple days ago saying how we should expect Tyreek to be suspended

You do realize there's a very real chance Hill gets suspended even if he's done absolutely nothing wrong, right? Elliot got 6 games from allegations. Stating the obvious doesn't make you a hater.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:14 PM

The Chiefs would of had to known this was happening and coming today

tmax63 04-24-2019 12:15 PM

Hopefully this is the end of it or at least the beginning of the end. The sooner Johnson Co. says what it's going to do the sooner Goodell can impose his version of "justice for all". If he's suspended for a few games better sooner than later and you know Goodell can't resist dicking the Chiefs whether if for tampering or any other reason he can come up with.

siberian khatru 04-24-2019 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224935)
I mean I develop anxiety when confronted with perpetual change. I've seen all good people look into the lens only to shoot high and aim low.

(I think that about cover it.)

FAX

Good Lord, please marry me.

Red Dawg 04-24-2019 12:15 PM

If no charges have been filed how bad could it be?

FAX 04-24-2019 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14224932)
I'm sure no matter what he says Brooke Pryor will write yet another sjw article about it...somehow connecting it to the Clark trade.

If he says Hill is not guilty of anything she'll basically do 1000 words on how he got off because of his fame and it's a sad day for women and children.

Then Mellinger would write 1500 words on how this is "similar" to every, single tragedy the Chiefs have experienced in the last 50 years. Oh ... and how much his heart hurts because of it. That will be his mood for a day.

FAX

Mecca 04-24-2019 12:16 PM

Mike Florio needs to shut the **** up, he is literally dangling so hard for clicks that he's never given this once chance to play out.

ToxSocks 04-24-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14224939)
You do realize there's a very real chance Hill gets suspended even if he's done absolutely nothing wrong, right? Elliot got 6 games from allegations. Stating the obvious doesn't make you a hater.

I can live with a 4-6 game suspension. What i can't live with is him being cut.

siberian khatru 04-24-2019 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224946)
Then Mellinger would write 1500 words on how this is "similar" to every, single tragedy the Chiefs have experienced in the last 50 years. Oh ... and how much his heart hurts because of it. That will be his mood for a day.

FAX

Stop it! You had me at Close to the Edge!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:16 PM

If charges were filed he’d be in handcuffs not having a press conference

Mecca 04-24-2019 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224946)
Then Mellinger would write 1500 words on how this is "similar" to every, single tragedy the Chiefs have experienced in the last 50 years. Oh ... and how much his heart hurts because of it. That will be his mood for a day.

FAX

The star literally employs sports reporters that rarely cover sports, they just write about how this makes them feel sad cause yea.

ToxSocks 04-24-2019 12:17 PM

So uh...wasn't this PC suppose to start already?

FAX 04-24-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224941)
The Chiefs would of had to known this was happening and coming today

Indubitably.

I'm hoping the presser will lift me up.

FAX

frozenchief 04-24-2019 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224873)
Much more likely that he's going to let some air out. If there are charges, you don't call a presser ... normally.


FAX

The key word there is "normally". The following analysis is based upon what has happened in some of my cases and upon how events proceed "normally".

Tyreek has an attorney. If they've decided to file charges, they would notify the attorney and make arrangements for the charging documents to be served. That is, the attorney agrees on client's behalf to have client report to jail for initial processing or attorney will accept the charging documents on behalf of client with a court order to appear at a certain time and a certain place.

Usually (again, the key word is "usually"), any press conferences follow an initial court appearance because then they can comment upon what has been filed. There is an incredibly strong presumption that matters filed in court are public. Exceptions typically are for search warrants prior to filing charges, arrest warrants prior to service, or some sealed pleadings that relate to specific, limited and defined matters involving the privacy of a witness or party. If charges are filed, the DA can discuss what charges were filed, potential penalties and generic matters, including factual allegations made in any public pleadings.

Since there are no news reports about Hill's arrest does this augur good news? Maybe, but the DA could also have decided to file charges and forward them to Hill's attorney so the attorney can accept the charges and make arrangements for a court appearance. Such a conference would be along the lines of, "After review of all of the evidence, the State of Kansas has charged Mr. Hill with X crime. His attorney has accepted service on his behalf and Mr. Hill's court date is Y. The charging document has been filed in open court."

That is not how it is typically done but there's nothing that prohibits it per se. Unless Kansas has some unusual rules, though, such a procedure does suggest that any crime would be relatively minor and would likely not involve domestic violence. Most states require an arrest if officials have probable cause to believe that a crime of domestic violence has occurred. I would be surprised if Kansas is an exception, but maybe it is. Given the likelihood that KS has such a requirement and the absence of news that Hill has been arrested, it stands to reason that any news conference would likely not announce a crime involving DV.

So reading the tea leaves, I would say that while we do not know what the press conference will involve, odds are against it involving a serious offense (felony) or a DV offense. If Hill gets arrested between now and the presser, that could change, but it would make little sense for the DA to announce a presser prior to any arrest if that was how they planned the press conference.

Having said that, law is not a science. There are unusual circumstances. This is my 2¢ and I could be way, way off. So keep in mind that opinions are like assholes: everyone has one and they usually stink.

ToxSocks 04-24-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14224954)
So uh...wasn't this PC suppose to start already?

Oh shit nvm

siberian khatru 04-24-2019 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224955)
Indubitably.

I'm hoping the presser will lift me up.

FAX

Holy crap, you're actually reaching into Union territory. This is getting serious.

If you can work Tales From Topographic Oceans into this, you can have my casino cash.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:19 PM

FYI Frank Clark’s cap hit comes in at 4.8 mil this year. Room for Jones and Hill extensions

pugsnotdrugs19 04-24-2019 12:19 PM

Gonna be sick in the meantime

FAX 04-24-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14224950)
Stop it! You had me at Close to the Edge!

Who could have known that those guys were writing this story 40 years before it happened, man? It's spooky as hell.

I guess we'll know the situation "soon" so we'll just have to "hold on".

FAX THE KINDA FREAKED HERE

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek has put on his Snapchat telling everybody in his family he loves them. I got news we will hear what’s gonna happen to tyreek in a few hours. Please god don’t take him away from us</p>&mdash; Travis Sellman (@MahomesBettah) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomesBettah/status/1121114431016935425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KCUnited 04-24-2019 12:22 PM

When was his last workout vid posted??

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:22 PM

Tyreek posted about 5 SC pics saying he loves everyone

Kiimo 04-24-2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14224950)
Stop it! You had me at Close to the Edge!

I guess you didn't know the Ledge

In58men 04-24-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224971)
Tyreek posted about 5 SC pics saying he loves everyone

**** what’s it meaaaaaaann!!!!!

CasselGotPeedOn 04-24-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224968)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek has put on his Snapchat telling everybody in his family he loves them. I got news we will hear what’s gonna happen to tyreek in a few hours. Please god don’t take him away from us</p>&mdash; Travis Sellman (@MahomesBettah) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomesBettah/status/1121114431016935425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That doesn't seem good...

Halfcan 04-24-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224887)
Yes ... that does seem to be an important distinction, doesn't it?

Either way, this feels a little too close to the edge.

FAX

If Reek was directly responsible (inflicted) the injury on his kid- he would have been arrested and charged by now. My guess, is they were mulling over charges of neglict which indirectly led to the kid getting hurt. Since both parents have now enrolled in parentling classes to learn to watch him better- this is over. The press conference is because the local media blew it out of proporation and convicted him in the press, putting pressure on the DA to charge Hill.

FAX 04-24-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 14224960)
Holy crap, you're actually reaching into Union territory. This is getting serious.

If you can work Tales From Topographic Oceans into this, you can have my casino cash.

DA pressers are the ancient ritual.

(That's all I got.)

FAX THE EXHAUSTED

ptlyon 04-24-2019 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224971)
Tyreek posted about 5 SC pics saying he loves everyone

Me included?

Dartgod 04-24-2019 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14224911)
"If" it turns out to be nothing or "next to nothing" or however you wish to construe the situation, the answer is, "No". They will neither apologize nor correct nor dismount from their high horse. That's not how it's done any longer, I'm afraid.

I expect the authorities to say, "Tyreek, yours is no disgrace." ... and the media to continue hanging out near the gates of delirium.

FAX

It can happen to you
It can happen to me
It can happen to everyone eventually

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-24-2019 12:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/1FF4MJmFv2">pic.twitter.com/1FF4MJmFv2</a></p>&mdash; Travis Sellman (@MahomesBettah) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomesBettah/status/1121115503320154112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14224976)
That doesn't seem good...

Some say a month ago and some say 25 mins ago so I have no idea

BWillie 04-24-2019 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224776)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today at 3:00, Steve will be holding a press conference regarding the criminal investigation involving Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal. This will be held in our 4th floor conference room.</p>&mdash; Johnson County KS DA (@JohnsonCoDA) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnsonCoDA/status/1121107103052107776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He ded.

ShowtimeSBMVP 04-24-2019 12:26 PM

A league source tells PFT that the Chiefs knew nothing about the district attorney’s press conference until it was announced.


Pro football talk reporting

Kiimo 04-24-2019 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 14224976)
That doesn't seem good...


Here's a pic of me smiling with a family member


Not "Just remember, I loved you all"

JakeF 04-24-2019 12:27 PM

Johnson County, Kansas, authorities are planning a news conference at 3 p.m. to discuss a criminal investigation involving Kansas City Chiefs star Tyreek Hill and his fiancee, Crystal Espinal.

Hill is under suspicion of battery.

Overland Park police were called to a home on Switzer Road in March on a report of battery. The victim is listed as a juvenile.

Hill's name is not mentioned in the March 14 report, but his fiancee, Crystal Espinal, is listed.

The report appears to show the incident as occurring sometime between Feb. 4 and Feb. 21.

A spokesperson for the Overland Park Police Department said the department has turned over its findings to the Johnson County prosecutor’s office.

A second police report, dated March 5, showed officers were called to Hill's home to investigate a report of child abuse or neglect. Both Hill and Espinal are listed in that report.

The report states prosecution was declined in the case March 8.

Stay with KMBC.com for updates.

Mecca 04-24-2019 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14224996)
A league source tells PFT that the Chiefs knew nothing about the district attorney’s press conference until it was announced.


Pro football talk reporting

I find that hard to believe.......the timing of all of this seems really suspect.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-24-2019 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14224996)
A league source tells PFT that the Chiefs knew nothing about the district attorney’s press conference until it was announced.


Pro football talk reporting

Did Antonio Bryant tell them that

Halfcan 04-24-2019 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14224987)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/1FF4MJmFv2">pic.twitter.com/1FF4MJmFv2</a></p>&mdash; Travis Sellman (@MahomesBettah) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomesBettah/status/1121115503320154112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Reek looks very worried. :rolleyes:

Hopefully, he can put this behind him and learn to be a better parent. It takes a lot of work.

keg in kc 04-24-2019 12:29 PM

I love threads with a title like 'major update' that contain no actual update. It's like those ten second trailers promoting the real trailer you get tomorrow. How about a title like 'update coming'. I know it's a novel concept.

KC_Lee 04-24-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14224996)
A league source tells PFT that the Chiefs knew nothing about the district attorney’s press conference until it was announced.


Pro football talk reporting

If this is true then 1 Arrowhead Drive is populated with a bunch dumb asses.

BryanBusby 04-24-2019 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14225001)
I find that hard to believe.......the timing of all of this seems really suspect.

Not really. They just went to court not that long ago.

Kiimo 04-24-2019 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14225006)
I love threads with a title like 'major update' that contain no actual update. It's like those ten second trailers promoting the real trailer you get tomorrow. How about a title like 'update coming'. I know it's a novel concept.

I make those trailers and they work, just like this thread title did.

Red Dawg 04-24-2019 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 14224981)
Me included?

Especially you my little crouton.

ptlyon 04-24-2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14225014)
Especially you my little crouton.

I prefer "ginger snap"

ToxSocks 04-24-2019 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14224968)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek has put on his Snapchat telling everybody in his family he loves them. I got news we will hear what’s gonna happen to tyreek in a few hours. Please god don’t take him away from us</p>&mdash; Travis Sellman (@MahomesBettah) <a href="https://twitter.com/MahomesBettah/status/1121114431016935425?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Welp we're ****ed.

FAX 04-24-2019 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime (Post 14224996)
A league source tells PFT that the Chiefs knew nothing about the district attorney’s press conference until it was announced.


Pro football talk reporting

I doubt that.

FAX

keg in kc 04-24-2019 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14225013)
I make those trailers and they work, just like this thread title did.

You know what you're getting when you see one of those. This thread header, on the other hand, is just misleading.

I'll be back in a couple hours, when there's an update.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-24-2019 12:34 PM

I've got a real bad feeling about this....

Valiant 04-24-2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14224890)
If this turns out to be nothing I wonder if any of the KC sports media hacks and radio hacks will eat their crow or still push their narratives...

I hope the chiefs refuse to answer and say next to those stations and the star every after game interview.

Dartgod 04-24-2019 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 14225022)
You know what you're getting when you see one of those. This thread header, on the other hand, is just misleading.

I'll be back in a couple hours, when there's an update.

Good point and I updated the title to include info about the press conference.

pugsnotdrugs19 04-24-2019 12:35 PM

If this goes bad a DAY after trading for Frank Clark.... my goodness

siberian khatru 04-24-2019 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14225021)
I doubt that.

FAX

Not familiar with that one. You must be referencing one of Jon Anderson's shitty solo albums.

KC_Lee 04-24-2019 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14225029)
If this goes bad a DAY after trading for Frank Clark.... my goodness

Well you know why....because Chiefs...

Red Dawg 04-24-2019 12:37 PM

This is it. Armageddon. The end of everything.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-24-2019 12:37 PM

Whatever happen I just don't want the team to release him. Suspension we can live with but if we release him there's 31 other teams that will fight over him. He's a HOF receiver and the Chiefs need his talent.

wazu 04-24-2019 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14225029)
If this goes bad a DAY after trading for Frank Clark.... my goodness

Kinda makes you wonder if they had to get the trade done before the shit hit the fan. (Rather than waiting until the draft.) Once we learn that Tyreek broke a toddler's arm, the outrage meter for domestic abuse will go up for awhile.

KC Hawks 04-24-2019 12:37 PM

It's almost like they did it before the draft to give the Chiefs a heads up. How very nice of them!

wazu 04-24-2019 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14225039)
Whatever happen I just don't want the team to release him. Suspension we can live with but if we release him there's 31 other teams that will fight over him. He's a HOF receiver and the Chiefs need his talent.

If he broke his kid's arm he's going to jail.

In58men 04-24-2019 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Hawks (Post 14225042)
It's almost like they did it before the draft to give the Chiefs a heads up. How very nice of them!

Very sweet indeed.

ptlyon 04-24-2019 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 14225045)
If he broke his kid's arm he's going to jail.

And he'd be there by now

loochy 04-24-2019 12:41 PM

OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE

Dunerdr 04-24-2019 12:41 PM

what if hes in minor trouble and we decide its too risky and trade him to new england for their 29 pick next year and 32 this year? jk im not a ****ing dumbass. so much shit speculation in here.

Simply Red 04-24-2019 12:42 PM

I'm ready for closure!


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