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Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 14319042)
I'm starting to think some people want him to be guilty.

Pats, Raiders, Broncos, Chargers, Steelers and Colts fans all do...

They will have metaphorical lynch mobs waiting in the stands for Tyreek when we visit their stadiums.

Strap in because trolls are coming.

BleedingRed 06-23-2019 05:07 PM

I did this

digger 06-23-2019 05:08 PM

Satuo wants proof the Hill didn't do something, in order to believe he didn't do something.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14319074)
Probably never got spanked as a kid.... those of us who did and dont automatically think we are right about everything and deserve everything handed to us know that discipline sometimes requires a welt haha

This is probably accurate.

DaFace 06-23-2019 05:19 PM

Nothing says "legit" like a Word document on Scribd. ROFL


That said, hope it's all true. Certainly seems reasonable.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 14319089)
Nothing says "legit" like a Word document on Scribd. ROFL

Or you know...the front page of the KC Star.

CasselGotPeedOn 06-23-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad (Post 14319031)
Ive been around here for over half my life. Respect me, bitch

If there's one thing you deserve respect for, it's being able to dodge a coat hanger while in the womb.

FAX 06-23-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319017)
but this article says they both did. Why should we not believe it?

The investigation into the couple’s parenting accelerated when Overland Park police checked on the boy in March and found bruises and welts on his body. Both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3 year old with their hands and a belt, but prosecutors can’t determine for sure which parent, or if both, went too far.

I don't have a cheetah in this fight (other than desiring a Super Bowl win or three), but my sources tell me that there are no legitimate sources who have established that, "both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3-year-old with ... a belt."

Link?

FAX

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319098)
Link?

FAX

ROFL
LMAO

I love FAX in a strictly non-homosexual way.

FAX 06-23-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14319046)
He was by our resident private detectives (who have absolute dogshit sources)

Ahem ... our investigators never arrived at that conclusion.

Actually, our working theory was that Baby Mama's Mama or Daddy were the prime suspects. It was either they or Meredith or another babysitting extended family member.

Granted, we should have looked closer at Baby Mama early on in this case.

FAX

FAX 06-23-2019 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319061)
Common sense tells you this is bullshit. You will never convince me if they knew a crime has been committed both wouldn't be charged and let it play out in court. The "we don't know which one did it" narrative is a crock of shit. If thats true the prosecutor should be fired immediately.

What is more and more evident is they didn't find anything they could make a case for abuse on, welts and bruises alone wouldn't be enough depending on quantity and severity.

Obviously I am speculating but there is evidence based on what HASN'T happened to give a good idea of whats going on. Had they had evidence of a crime they would have filed charges, period. I didnt get the impression the DA was looking to give Hill any breaks.

Far from it ...

Clearly, that guy is planning to run for higher office.

FAX

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319098)
there are no legitimate sources who have established that, "both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3-year-old with ... a belt."

Link?

FAX

http://www.810whb.com/2019/06/10/whb...reak-sons-arm/

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 05:41 PM

look at this ****ing clown

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m surprised no one in the comments pointed one MAJOR flaw in this story. <a href="https://t.co/bjwV0QRVfX">https://t.co/bjwV0QRVfX</a></p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1142928221266202625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FAX 06-23-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319111)

Sorry ... even under the influence of Boone's Farm and high doses of psychotropic substances, I cannot bring myself to consider that gaggle of morons to be a "legitimate source".

Half the time, they can't even recite their own call letters correctly.

FAX

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319112)
look at this ****ing clown

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m surprised no one in the comments pointed one MAJOR flaw in this story. <a href="https://t.co/bjwV0QRVfX">https://t.co/bjwV0QRVfX</a></p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1142928221266202625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Too many commas?

Marcellus 06-23-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319112)
look at this ****ing clown

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#39;m surprised no one in the comments pointed one MAJOR flaw in this story. <a href="https://t.co/bjwV0QRVfX">https://t.co/bjwV0QRVfX</a></p>&mdash; Carrington Harrison (@cdotharrison) <a href="https://twitter.com/cdotharrison/status/1142928221266202625?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He is completely missing the point that this all started when Hill attempted to leave Crystal and cut her off the NFL teet. He is attempting to claim the story is based on it all starting with Crystal trying to extort Hill before he got paid.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319116)
Sorry ... even under the influence of Boone's Farm and high doses of psychotropic substances, I cannot bring myself to consider that gaggle of morons to be a "legitimate source".

Half the time, they can't even recite their own call letters correctly.

FAX

FAX THE ENTIRELY ACCURATE is entirely accurate.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319119)
He is completely missing the point that this all started when Hill attempted to leave Crystal and cut her off the NFL teet. He is attempting to claim the story is based on it all starting with Crystal trying to extort Hill before he got paid.

Go look at her goddamn instagram.

She was loving that life even if it was only a few hundred grand.

Daddy was Poverty Pat Mahomes - a failed baseball player who got fired from his college coaching gig.

She was already reaping the benefits of an NFL superstar lifestyle and was about to hit the big time.

Until Hill got wise.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319098)
I don't have a cheetah in this fight (other than desiring a Super Bowl win or three), but my sources tell me that there are no legitimate sources who have established that, "both Hill and Espinal have admitted to investigators that they spanked the 3-year-old with ... a belt."

Link?

FAX

there can only be so many actual inside sources here. I'm just wondering why one is believed more than another. (And i'm laughing right now because that's the same article that most here used to proclaim victory because it said he didn't break the arm) and ftr I don't know that I believe either article is 100 percent accurate. I have no way of knowing.

Hog's Gone Fishin 06-23-2019 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14318873)
https://www.scribd.com/document/4142...TXOVfx-b5jwkNg

This is a long ass article and definitely worth your time.

I LOVE IT!

There is a God after all!

And he's finally a Chiefs fan.

FAX 06-23-2019 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319121)
Go look at her goddamn instagram.

She was loving that life even if it was only a few hundred grand.

Daddy was Poverty Pat Mahomes - a failed baseball player who got fired from his college coaching gig.

She was already reaping the benefits of an NFL superstar lifestyle and was about to hit the big time.

Until Hill got wise.

I think you're trying to convince the wrong guy.

The person you want to educate is that Harrison fella.

If memory serves, he's another social media peckerwood who has attempted to use this story to elevate his own name recognition.

FAX

tyecopeland 06-23-2019 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319116)
Sorry ... even under the influence of Boone's Farm and high doses of psychotropic substances, I cannot bring myself to consider that gaggle of morons to be a "legitimate source".

Half the time, they can't even recite their own call letters correctly.

FAX

But chiefs kingdom news services should be trusted?

FAX 06-23-2019 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319122)
there can only be so many actual inside sources here. I'm just wondering why one is believed more than another. (And i'm laughing right now because that's the same article that most here used to proclaim victory because it said he didn't break the arm) and ftr I don't know that I believe either article is 100 percent accurate. I have no way of knowing.

There's a lot about this wacky deal that I don't understand either (and obviously never will). Nonetheless, I am attempting to keep my personal confusion to a minimum which is why I asked for clarification.

I just hadn't heard any report based on any legitimate source state that both Tyreek and Baby Mama had admitted to striking Damien with a belt. I've heard the rumors, of course ... but I was never aware that anything like that had been confirmed or validated in any way.

All I've ever wanted was the presumption of innocence to be honored and a Super Bowl win ... that's pretty much it.

Oh ... and I'd like Damien to be placed in a monastery to be raised by priests experienced in exorcism techniques.

FAX

FAX 06-23-2019 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 14319128)
But chiefs kingdom news services should be trusted?

LOL ... what?

Are you another one of them morans?

'Cause I'll tell you right now ... I don't cotton to no morans.

FAX

-King- 06-23-2019 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319119)
He is completely missing the point that this all started when Hill attempted to leave Crystal and cut her off the NFL teet. He is attempting to claim the story is based on it all starting with Crystal trying to extort Hill before he got paid.

That makes no sense LMFAO.

So tyreek wanted to leave Christal (let's ignore the fact he proposed to her) and instead of just taking the child support money for their 3 kids, she would rather tyreek get kicked out of the league entirely leaving all of them broke? And if it was a true extortion attempt, why not wait until he gets his 60mil guaranteed?

There's no logic to that theory at all.

TEX 06-23-2019 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319130)
LOL ... what?

Are you another one of them morans?

'Cause I'll tell you right now ... I don't cotton to no morans.

FAX

ROFL
He is. He showed up on the scene spewing idiocy.

rabblerouser 06-23-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14319133)
That makes no sense LMFAO.

So tyreek wanted to leave Christal (let's ignore the fact he proposed to her) and instead of just taking the child support money for their 3 kids, she would rather tyreek get kicked out of the league entirely leaving all of them broke? And if it was a true extortion attempt, why not wait until he gets his 60mil guaranteed?

There's no logic to that theory at all.

The Espinals aren't bright people?

tyecopeland 06-23-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319130)
LOL ... what?

Are you another one of them morans?

'Cause I'll tell you right now ... I don't cotton to no morans.

FAX

No. But I'm sure that will be my label since right now I seem to have similar views to sauto and king right now. I wasn't trying to say you viewed this article more legitimate than the other but it's just funny that so many on here will call one article more legitimate just because it fits their belief better than another. Nobody has any named sources or has proven to be more accurate than any one else to this point.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14319133)
That makes no sense LMFAO.

So tyreek wanted to leave Christal (let's ignore the fact he proposed to her) and instead of just taking the child support money for their 3 kids, she would rather tyreek get kicked out of the league entirely leaving all of them broke? And if it was a true extortion attempt, why not wait until he gets his 60mil guaranteed?

There's no logic to that theory at all.

They being engaged means nothing when it comes to current status of their relationship.

And a woman scorned, a crazy ass woman at that, will do all kinds of shit. She didn't want cut off, she wanted him to stay and get married.

It makes as much sense as any other break up revenge bullshit scenario.

Do you seriously believe she isn't nuts? The fact she stayed with Tyreek should tell you she is nuts to begin with.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 14319140)
No. But I'm sure that will be my label since right now I seem to have similar views to sauto and king right now. I wasn't trying to say you viewed this article more legitimate than the other but it's just funny that so many on here will call one article more legitimate just because it fits their belief better than another. Nobody has any named sources or has proven to be more accurate than any one else to this point.

What you need to be looking at are all the things that haven't happened.

-King- 06-23-2019 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14319138)
The Espinals aren't bright people?

That's a stupid copout. You can't present a illogical scenario and act like it's legitimate just because you think the people involved, that you don't know btw, might be illogical also.

TEX 06-23-2019 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319122)
there can only be so many actual inside sources here. I'm just wondering why one is believed more than another. (And i'm laughing right now because that's the same article that most here used to proclaim victory because it said he didn't break the arm) and ftr I don't know that I believe either article is 100 percent accurate. I have no way of knowing.

Wait / What? You, "Have no way of knowing." No links??? Looks like you're just gonna have to be a brave little lad and trust your instincts then - as misguided as they may be...

tyecopeland 06-23-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319142)
They being engaged means nothing when it comes to current status of their relationship.

And a woman scorned, a crazy ass woman at that, will do all kinds of shit. She didn't want cut off, she wanted him to stay and get married.

It makes as much sense as any other break up revenge bullshit scenario.

Do you seriously believe she isn't nuts? The fact she stayed with Tyreek should tell you she is nuts to begin with.

She didnt stay, they got back together. And if she's crazy doesn't that make tyreek nuts to get back with her and propose to her?

BleedingRed 06-23-2019 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14319046)
He was by our resident private detectives (who have absolute dogshit sources)

Miss me with this shit you dumb ****, I called this two months ago. So suck my dick

FAX 06-23-2019 06:25 PM

Now, now ... there'll be no dick-sucking in this thread, thank you very much.

FAX

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 14319147)
She didnt stay, they got back together. And if she's crazy doesn't that make tyreek nuts to get back with her and propose to her?

Tyreek isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. Duh.

-King- 06-23-2019 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319142)
They being engaged means nothing when it comes to current status of their relationship.

And a woman scorned, a crazy ass woman at that, will do all kinds of shit. She didn't want cut off, she wanted him to stay and get married.

It makes as much sense as any other break up revenge bullshit scenario.

Do you seriously believe she isn't nuts? The fact she stayed with Tyreek should tell you she is nuts to begin with.

Abused women stay with their abusers all the time. That's part of the abuse. It's one of the biggest problems with domestic violence cases and how they are resolved.

Both of them seem like they're not great people. It's not like Tyreek looks like a good person in any of this. The only difference is that Tyreek plays on our favorite team and she doesn't.

bigjosh 06-23-2019 06:29 PM

Holy shit. Is Tycopeland Brook?

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14319133)
And if it was a true extortion attempt, why not wait until he gets his 60mil guaranteed?

because

he

was

leaving

her

the tape was blackmail to get him to not break up with her

she was going to lose custody of those kids, too, because she's an awful mother

she was going to get NOTHING

the tape was a cheap ploy at keeping custody, ****ing over tyreek while at the same time taking all his child support money

might have worked if he wasn't the fastest man in america ROFL

FAX 06-23-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319153)
Tyreek isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. Duh.

He's smarter than a lot of people think.

Just because a person speaks a certain way, it doesn't mean there's a correlation to intelligence.

After all, he did pick up Wally's offense faster than anyone expected (including Wally). Plus, he did everything he was supposed to do in order to satisfy his plea arrangement ... and it appears he's smart enough to hire a good attorney to deal with this case. IMO, he's no dummy ... just verbally inarticulate in white man terms.

FAX

kcxiv 06-23-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 14319160)
Holy shit. Is Tycopeland Brook?

huge possibility look at the join date! lol If not, her boyfriend or whatever!

tyecopeland 06-23-2019 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 14319160)
Holy shit. Is Tycopeland Brook?

At least get my name right.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14319156)
Abused women stay with their abusers all the time. That's part of the abuse. It's one of the biggest problems with domestic violence cases and how they are resolved.

Both of them seem like they're not great people. It's not like Tyreek looks like a good person in any of this. The only difference is that Tyreek plays on our favorite team and she doesn't.

This is all fair, but really my view on this is simple.

I don't know what happened and we likely never will.

I do know what hasn't happened, and that is no charges, no evidence of anything more than they may not be the best parents and Tyreek has not been implicated in ANYTHING regarding his son at this point. Nothing.

I dont buy the DA's bullshit grand standing narrative we don't know who did "it" because if there was a crime you charge them both and work it out in the process. It very much appears liek they cant make the case they want to make.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 14319169)
At least get my name right.

Its spelled Brooke.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319166)
He's smarter than a lot of people think.

Just because a person speaks a certain way, it doesn't mean there's a correlation to intelligence.

Go and watch his youtube channel.

Not a dumb person.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319166)
He's smarter than a lot of people think.

Just because a person speaks a certain way, it doesn't mean there's a correlation to intelligence.

After all, he did pick up Wally's offense faster than anyone expected (including Wally). Plus, he did everything he was supposed to do in order to satisfy his plea arrangement ... and it appears he's smart enough to hire a good attorney to deal with this case. IMO, he's no dummy ... just verbally inarticulate in white man terms.

FAX

Staying with crazy baby momma, not very smart. And now he is about to have 3 kids with her.

philfree 06-23-2019 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319170)
This is all fair, but really my view on this is simple.

I don't know what happened and we likely never will.

I do know what hasn't happened, and that is no charges, no evidence of anything more than they may not be the best parents and Tyreek has not been implicated in ANYTHING regarding his son at this point. Nothing.

I dont buy the DA's bullshit grand standing narrative we don't know who did "it" because if there was a crime you charge them both and work it out in the process. It very much appears liek they cant make the case they want to make.

DA got baited and was trying to save face. He didn't.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319176)
Staying with crazy baby momma, not very smart. And now he is about to have 3 kids with her.

Hopefully they aren't even his kids.

That'd be the icing on the cake. ROFL

duncan_idaho 06-23-2019 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319170)
This is all fair, but really my view on this is simple.



I don't know what happened and we likely never will.



I do know what hasn't happened, and that is no charges, no evidence of anything more than they may not be the best parents and Tyreek has not been implicated in ANYTHING regarding his son at this point. Nothing.



I dont buy the DA's bullshit grand standing narrative we don't know who did "it" because if there was a crime you charge them both and work it out in the process. It very much appears liek they cant make the case they want to make.


A threat to charge someone with something doesn’t go very far when any defense attorney already knows reasonable doubt exists. Real life isn’t Law and Order. Sometime suspects do hold the cards.

They can’t make this case because the timeline is not established and they can’t reasonably prove guilt of any one party.

Most prosecutors won’t charge a case when they know they have no chance of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

FAX 06-23-2019 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319176)
Staying with crazy baby momma, not very smart. And now he is about to have 3 kids with her.

And that, my friend, is what L'amore can do to a fella.

It can make a grown man cry and a strong man weak. It can make a fast man slow and a smart man look like the dumbest motherf***er in town.

FAX

-King- 06-23-2019 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319170)
This is all fair, but really my view on this is simple.

I don't know what happened and we likely never will.

I do know what hasn't happened, and that is no charges, no evidence of anything more than they may not be the best parents and Tyreek has not been implicated in ANYTHING regarding his son at this point. Nothing.

I dont buy the DA's bullshit grand standing narrative we don't know who did "it" because if there was a crime you charge them both and work it out in the process. It very much appears liek they cant make the case they want to make.

I think there's something that happened but not major enough to press charges. Something like she beats him hard and tyreek punches him in the chest. Things that are bad but not jailworthy. They both have to be taught how to parent and punish their kids better. [All of this is just a guess so I could be 100% wrong]

Think Tyreek will be suspended 4 games and it won't be appealed.

Marty Mac Ver 3.0 06-23-2019 06:43 PM

Hey guys, anything going on today?

Marty Mac Ver 3.0 06-23-2019 06:45 PM

I do.


Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319122)
there can only be so many actual inside sources here. I'm just wondering why one is believed more than another. (And i'm laughing right now because that's the same article that most here used to proclaim victory because it said he didn't break the arm) and ftr I don't know that I believe either article is 100 percent accurate. I have no way of knowing.


Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14319183)
A threat to charge someone with something doesn’t go very far when any defense attorney already knows reasonable doubt exists. Real life isn’t Law and Order. Sometime suspects do hold the cards.

They can’t make this case because the timeline is not established and they can’t reasonably prove guilt of any one party.

Most prosecutors won’t charge a case when they know they have no chance of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

They didn't have proof of an actual crime. How hard is that to understand?

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 14319184)
And that, my friend, is what L'amore can do to a fella.

It can make a grown man cry and a strong man weak. It can make a fast man slow and a smart man look like the dumbest motherf***er in town.

FAX

Troof.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 14319187)
I think there's something that happened but not major enough to press charges. Something like she beats him hard and tyreek punches him in the chest. Things that are bad but not jailworthy. They both have to be taught how to parent and punish their kids better. [All of this is just a guess so I could be 100% wrong]

Think Tyreek will be suspended 4 games and it won't be appealed.

I agree with pretty much all of this but Im guessing 2 games or less. Depends on what he was able to provide the NFL in his defense, that is something we will never know.

WhawhaWhat 06-23-2019 06:52 PM

This article keeps getting deleted on the chiefs reddit sub but "Matt Cassel getting some much deserved love!" stays up. All you need to know about the dipshits on reddit.

Bump 06-23-2019 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14319198)
This article keeps getting deleted on the chiefs reddit sub but "Matt Cassel getting some much deserved love!" stays up. All you need to know about the dipshits on reddit.

reddit is a joke of a site, don't go there lol.

duncan_idaho 06-23-2019 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319193)
They didn't have proof of an actual crime. How hard is that to understand?


They had bruising and welts significant enough to believe it was far beyond a reasonable bout of corporal punishment with a belt.

Sometimes you know a crime has been committed but can’t prove who did it. Hardball only works when there are teeth to the hardball threat.

If someone broke into your house and stole all your stuff but left no evidence behind, you’d know a crime was committed but no charges could be filed.

If a dead body turns up with no teeth or fingerprints and is burned beyond visible recognition, it would be known a murder was committed but not able to charge someone unless a witness saw the dump.

Extreme examples, yeah. But still true.

Dante84 06-23-2019 06:56 PM

So Carrington’s beef with the article was that Tyreek couldn’t have been close to a deal last year because Tyreek couldn’t have signed a deal on year 3.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14319204)
They had bruising and welts significant enough to believe it was far beyond a reasonable bout of corporal punishment with a belt.

Sometimes you know a crime has been committed but can’t prove who did it. Hardball only works when there are teeth to the hardball threat.

If someone broke into your house and stole all your stuff but left no evidence behind, you’d know a crime was committed but no charges could be filed.

If a dead body turns up with no teeth or fingerprints and is burned beyond visible recognition, it would be known a murder was committed but not able to charge someone unless a witness saw the dump.

Extreme examples, yeah. But still true.


If thats the case then their case was weak as shit to begin with.

O.city 06-23-2019 07:01 PM

Interesting

I doubt DFS would speak to the NFL and I don’t know about the contract stuff

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 14319198)
This article keeps getting deleted on the chiefs reddit sub but "Matt Cassel getting some much deserved love!" stays up. All you need to know about the dipshits on reddit.

It's still there/

https://www.reddit.com/r/KansasCityC...ased/?sort=new

AustinChief 06-23-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14319204)
They had bruising and welts significant enough to believe it was far beyond a reasonable bout of corporal punishment with a belt.

Sometimes you know a crime has been committed but can’t prove who did it. Hardball only works when there are teeth to the hardball threat.

If someone broke into your house and stole all your stuff but left no evidence behind, you’d know a crime was committed but no charges could be filed.

If a dead body turns up with no teeth or fingerprints and is burned beyond visible recognition, it would be known a murder was committed but not able to charge someone unless a witness saw the dump.

Extreme examples, yeah. But still true.

But we have text messages where Tyreek states that he never hurt the child and Crystal admits that in fact SHE did and then lied and blamed him for it. Text messages that (according to his attorney) have been forensically verified.

That is not definitive proof that Tyreek has never gone too far punishing his son but it certainly should color one's opinion regarding this whole case.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319170)
This is all fair, but really my view on this is simple.

I don't know what happened and we likely never will.

I do know what hasn't happened, and that is no charges, no evidence of anything more than they may not be the best parents and Tyreek has not been implicated in ANYTHING regarding his son at this point. Nothing.

I dont buy the DA's bullshit grand standing narrative we don't know who did "it" because if there was a crime you charge them both and work it out in the process. It very much appears liek they cant make the case they want to make.

You can't charge them both with the same crime. Both lawyers just blame the other person. Ruins credibility.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-23-2019 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319209)
If thats the case then their case was weak as shit to begin with.

He's been wrong all along, so you are probably right

SAUTO 06-23-2019 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319209)
If thats the case then their case was weak as shit to begin with.

Most likely true.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 14319221)
But we have text messages where Tyreek states that he never hurt the child and Crystal admits that in fact SHE did and then lied and blamed him for it. Text messages that (according to his attorney) have been forensically verified.

That is not definitive proof that Tyreek has never gone too far punishing his son but it certainly should color one's opinion regarding this whole case.

If roles had been reversed in that text, Tyreek Hill's career is over right now.

Double standard from SAUTONIAN bullshit artists.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14319222)
You can't charge them both with the same crime. Both lawyers just blame the other person. Ruins credibility.

You absolutely can, and then you use them against each other.

SAUTO 06-23-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319228)
You absolutely can, and then you use them against each other.

It's a good idea in theory i guess.

What if neither play ball?

TEX 06-23-2019 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319227)
If roles had been reverses in that text, Tyreek Hill's career is over right now.

Double standard from SAUTONIAN bullshit artists.

LMAO
Exactly the case. With or without links...

TEX 06-23-2019 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 14319223)
He's been wrong all along, so you are probably right

Yep, but wanted so badly to be right.

BryanBusby 06-23-2019 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319228)
You absolutely can, and then you use them against each other.

Sure, but it's not going to go well for the prosecution if they can't even determine who actually did it. They're not in the business of losing cases.

duncan_idaho 06-23-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319209)
If thats the case then their case was weak as shit to begin with.


Most domestic violence cases are pretty reliant on witness testimony to begin with. When there isn’t an immediate report of an incident and the victim is a toddler, it gets really thin/flimsy unless there’s a reliable witness who describes what happened.

Obviously that is not the case here.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 14319205)
So Carrington’s beef with the article was that Tyreek couldn’t have been close to a deal last year because Tyreek couldn’t have signed a deal on year 3.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So one clarification on the Hill article and his contract. He can&#39;t sign until after his third year. The sides, however, can discuss numbers and concepts of a new deal. That is what I was referring to in the article. I wasn&#39;t clear and I will own that.</p>&mdash; The Chiefs Kingdom (Ver 2.0) (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1142962902187384832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Marcellus 06-23-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14319271)
Most domestic violence cases are pretty reliant on witness testimony to begin with. When there isn’t an immediate report of an incident and the victim is a toddler, it gets really thin/flimsy unless there’s a reliable witness who describes what happened.

Obviously that is not the case here.

This isn't domestic violence its child abuse. Evidence of said abuse shouldn't be hard to come by, You are way over thinking this.

The broken arm issue has been resolved from everything I can tell, there is nothing else other than some level of bruising and welts which obviously aren't enough to do anything from a charge standpoint.

The reality is the biggest evidence against Hill is an incident from 5 years ago that has no actual relevance to this case.

Marcellus 06-23-2019 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319275)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So one clarification on the Hill article and his contract. He can&#39;t sign until after his third year. The sides, however, can discuss numbers and concepts of a new deal. That is what I was referring to in the article. I wasn&#39;t clear and I will own that.</p>&mdash; The Chiefs Kingdom (Ver 2.0) (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1142962902187384832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Thats not what he said in a reply, dude is already back tracking. Good grief.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2019 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14319282)
Thats not what he said in a reply, dude is already back tracking. Good grief.

Clarification is not backtracking.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 06-23-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319285)
Clarification is not backtracking.

This! :clap:

Marcellus 06-23-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14319285)
Clarification is not backtracking.

I read that wrong I thought it was that Carrington clown changing his opinion on what the major flaw in the article was.


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