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WhawhaWhat 01-15-2023 09:29 PM

First episode is pretty damn good.

rydogg58 01-15-2023 09:35 PM

Hell of an episode visually. Seems like it followed the game to a T. Now we gotta wait another week.

DJJasonp 01-15-2023 10:48 PM

Hell yeah!!!!

Gravedigger 01-15-2023 11:10 PM

It was good. I felt they hinted towards the infection a little too much with that intro scene, would’ve been better to keep it vague instead of having a panel from decades ago discuss the possibility of fungi controlling people. They padded a bit but it was fine, nice to see that backstory, and they ended it on the place where I figured they’d end it on as that’s the first major revelation of the game. Loved the intro even though it felt Game of Thrones but the fact that they did the same guitar track, ****ing A plus. Looks like they’ll give more backstory to Bill and his partner, but will follow the DLC for Ellie’s backstory. Super hyped.

Sure-Oz 01-16-2023 12:12 AM

This is going to be amazing. I was nervous, excited, and it's everything I've hoped it would be already. Wow...I can't wait for Sunday.
Perfect end to the first episode...and yeah I teared up.

Tribal Warfare 01-16-2023 12:26 AM

It's really difficult to look at the girl depicting Ellie without wondering if he she's a trisomy 21 victim because she's that ugly.

Pogue 01-16-2023 01:56 AM

10/10, hell of a start for this series.

Skyy God 01-16-2023 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16740697)
It was good. I felt they hinted towards the infection a little too much with that intro scene, would’ve been better to keep it vague instead of having a panel from decades ago discuss the possibility of fungi controlling people. They padded a bit but it was fine, nice to see that backstory, and they ended it on the place where I figured they’d end it on as that’s the first major revelation of the game. Loved the intro even though it felt Game of Thrones but the fact that they did the same guitar track, ****ing A plus. Looks like they’ll give more backstory to Bill and his partner, but will follow the DLC for Ellie’s backstory. Super hyped.

Eh, I liked it.

From having watched this Planet Earth video, seemed clear it was going to be cordiceps.

https://youtu.be/XuKjBIBBAL8

allen_kcCard 01-16-2023 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16740753)
It's really difficult to look at the girl depicting Ellie without wondering if he she's a trisomy 21 victim because she's that ugly.

Luckily, most people aren't so shallow that they can't get past her appearance to see how awesome of a job she did so far, and she also did a great job sounding very much like Ashley Johnson who voiced Ellie in the games. I was impressed by her. Pascal was good as Joel too, even if he doesn't really look like him.

BigRedChief 01-16-2023 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14826115)
Never played the first game. I assume it's worth a look?

Me either but Chernobyl was top shelf. Top 10 TV series of all time. Quality everywhere in that show. Pairing this quality and experience with the originator of the game sounds like a great opportunity to knock this out of the park.

ShowtimeSBMVP 01-16-2023 10:34 AM

This was great !!

Tribal Warfare 01-16-2023 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard (Post 16740887)
Luckily, most people aren't so shallow that they can't get past her appearance to see how awesome of a job she did so far, and she also did a great job sounding very much like Ashley Johnson who voiced Ellie in the games. I was impressed by her. Pascal was good as Joel too, even if he doesn't really look like him.

LOL, "Luckily" she better be the Meryl Streep of video game actresses because you shouldn't be thinking about that, and if you didn't think that something was biologically wrong with her good for you because I honestly thought something was with all things considered with the elements in show and her actual VG render

Skyy God 01-16-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16740753)
It's really difficult to look at the girl depicting Ellie without wondering if he she's a trisomy 21 victim because she's that ugly.

Sorry she’s out of your league, bro.

Tribal Warfare 01-16-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16741086)
Sorry she’s out of your league, bro.

You really didn't think something was wrong with her before listening to her? Again props to you because I felt bad for her on a personal level.

Skyy God 01-16-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16741093)
You really didn't think something was wrong with her before listening to her? Again props to you because I felt bad for her on a personal level.

She looks like a lesbian.

That’s not a genetic disorder.

Tribal Warfare 01-16-2023 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16741098)
She looks like a lesbian.

That’s not a genetic disorder.


Lesbian? Never believed that at one instance before hearing her speak

TwistedChief 01-16-2023 11:15 AM

Had never even heard of the video game.

But that episode was awesome. Cannot wait for more.

The Franchise 01-16-2023 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16740753)
It's really difficult to look at the girl depicting Ellie without wondering if he she's a trisomy 21 victim because she's that ugly.

Even if she was…she’d still be worth more to this world than you’ll ever be.

Tribal Warfare 01-16-2023 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16741646)
Even if she was…she’d still be worth more to this world than you’ll ever be.

You're probably correct, unless I suddenly figured out nuclear fusion out of pure luck then the odds would be almost be equal but still in her favor

staylor26 01-16-2023 06:57 PM

First episode was confirmation that they're sticking to the source material.

Not that I ever had any doubts about this.

GOAT video game story mode + HBO + creator of Chernobyl = guaranteed classic

BleedingRed 01-18-2023 01:00 PM

Great ****ing episode I'm hooked

Bowser 01-18-2023 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16745249)
Great ****ing episode I'm hooked

Yep. Fantastic launch of the show.

Sassy Squatch 01-18-2023 05:56 PM

So will these dip****s FINALLY ****ing learn that if you just make an honest attempt to stay faithful to the source material good things will happen for your series.

Dallas Chief 01-19-2023 03:18 AM

Never played the game but great first episode. Fox tried something similar with the Passage book series a few years back and totally effed it up. I don’t think it made it to 10 episodes before being cancelled. I always thought it would have made a better HBO series anyway.

BigRichard 01-19-2023 07:34 AM

I never heard of or played the game but I watched this last night and found it funny where I could actually see where each part of it was a game mission... Get money for battery... find out battery has been sold to someone else... break into someone else's hideout and steal battery.

BleedingRed 01-19-2023 07:57 AM

If these hollywood writers could just stick to source material it would be better. Its always a ****ing shame when they think they are "better" writers than the Original Source.

"Dur we need to mix in some complex dumb shit that doesn't ****ing fit"

BigRedChief 01-19-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16741122)
Had never even heard of the video game.

But that episode was awesome. Cannot wait for more.

That kicked ass. These producers know how to make fantastic TV. Going to be another legendary show.

BigRedChief 01-19-2023 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16746388)
If these hollywood writers could just stick to source material it would be better. Its always a ****ing shame when they think they are "better" writers than the Original Source.

"Dur we need to mix in some complex dumb shit that doesn't ****ing fit"

Since the original writer of the game also is writing and producing this show..... your opinion doesn't make sense. Maybe try "he is a sell out" approach?

staylor26 01-19-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16746459)
Since the original writer of the game also is writing and producing this show..... your opinion doesn't make sense. Maybe try "he is a sell out" approach?

I don't think he's implying that's an issue with this show. The opposite actually.

Stryker 01-19-2023 10:00 AM

Absolutely loved the first episode and the commentary after the credits. Cannot wait for the next episode.

They captured the sets beautifully. Look very much like the game and they did a great job with the cast - very believable. :thumb:

DJJasonp 01-19-2023 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 16746365)
I never heard of or played the game but I watched this last night and found it funny where I could actually see where each part of it was a game mission... Get money for battery... find out battery has been sold to someone else... break into someone else's hideout and steal battery.

nah....game was much more smooth and integrated into the story than that.

Lot's of dialogue while doing things.

Sassy Squatch 01-19-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16746388)
If these hollywood writers could just stick to source material it would be better. Its always a ****ing shame when they think they are "better" writers than the Original Source.

"Dur we need to mix in some complex dumb shit that doesn't ****ing fit"

Or just don't follow the source material at all and instead exploit previously fleshed out characters with no regard to tell your shitty ****ing story that no one would've had any interest in otherwise.

Sure-Oz 01-19-2023 11:35 AM

I'll probably play the game after the season is over. Probably my favorite game of all time.

DJ's left nut 01-20-2023 09:21 AM

So I've never played the game.

Is that why this has the feel of just another zombie show?

Because this seems like a paint by numbers zombie show. Tortured protagonist w/ a young ward who holds the key to a 'cure' that he has to protect and guide to...wherever. And along the way he'll encounter sorta episodic 'hazards' that make the job seem far more complicated than it appeared at first glance...

So we just sit back for 10 episodes and wait for the twist that yields a second season.

Rinse/repeat.

Don't get me wrong, these are a couple of great actors and the visuals seem like they're going to be excellent. But this strikes me as a path VERY heavily traveled to this point so I guess I'm just a little perplexed by why this should be seen as a world apart from what we've seen before.

BigBeauford 01-20-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16748130)
So I've never played the game.

Is that why this has the feel of just another zombie show?

Because this seems like a paint by numbers zombie show. Tortured protagonist w/ a young ward who holds the key to a 'cure' that he has to protect and guide to...wherever. And along the way he'll encounter sorta episodic 'hazards' that make the job seem far more complicated than it appeared at first glance...

So we just sit back for 10 episodes and wait for the twist that yields a second season.

Rinse/repeat.

Don't get me wrong, these are a couple of great actors and the visuals seem like they're going to be excellent. But this strikes me as a path VERY heavily traveled to this point so I guess I'm just a little perplexed by why this should be seen as a world apart from what we've seen before.

It's strange to say, but I don't think the show is going to raise to the heights of the game. The pseudo Josh Brolin (Joel) and Ellen Page (Ellie) from the games are just better realized and have better chemistry than what I've seen from the show thus far. No shade on Pedro.

ToxSocks 01-20-2023 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16748130)
So I've never played the game.

Is that why this has the feel of just another zombie show?

Because this seems like a paint by numbers zombie show. Tortured protagonist w/ a young ward who holds the key to a 'cure' that he has to protect and guide to...wherever. And along the way he'll encounter sorta episodic 'hazards' that make the job seem far more complicated than it appeared at first glance...

So we just sit back for 10 episodes and wait for the twist that yields a second season.

Rinse/repeat.

Don't get me wrong, these are a couple of great actors and the visuals seem like they're going to be excellent. But this strikes me as a path VERY heavily traveled to this point so I guess I'm just a little perplexed by why this should be seen as a world apart from what we've seen before.

I've been curious to see how well they can build suspense and drama with the series over a full season or more.

Because the beauty of the game at the time was that it WASN'T some traditional zombie game. You didn't run around with a shotgun blasting hoards of zombies in the face.

The game was a story driven, tactical "stealth" game. Shooting guns, for the most part, made shit that much more difficult. The idea was to sneak around. Rather than a shotgun blast to the face, you'd throw a can off to the distance to distract them so you could sneak by in the dark. You spent much of your effort NOT making a sound, and instead attacking with tact. Not that you COULDN'T go guns blazing, but you were often limited in ammo and like i said before, you'd attract the attention of more "zombies" thus making it that much more difficult.

The game was a success because the suspense and thrill was built into the gameplay, and the story itself really made you feel for the characters. You'd wait by a doorway as a "clicker" slowly shuffled about, hoping not to get caught.

How they'll translate that tension into film? No idea. Im only halfway through the first episode.

ToxSocks 01-20-2023 01:28 PM

On a side note: You know what game would make an EXCELLENT series?

Mother****ing Red Dead Redemption.

Indian Chief 01-20-2023 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16741738)
First episode was confirmation that they're sticking to the source material.

Not that I ever had any doubts about this.

GOAT video game story mode + HBO + creator of Chernobyl = guaranteed classic

I'm not worried about the beginning of the show sticking to the source material. I'm worried about the end of this season. In order to make the story in the second game work, they changed a few things from the end of the first game. So honestly I don't know which direction they'll go, but it may be dictated on what they've got in mind for season 2.

dmahurin 01-20-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hank Hill (Post 16731376)
Since we're talking about the game a bit in here, how did you guys like the second game?

I think we can all agree the first game was a masterpiece. But to be truthful, I didn't really like the second one all that much. (No spoilers please)

It was wonderful. I hated the spoiler part when it happened but as the game finished I understood and appreciated the story for what it does. It is not as strong as the first as it is just 100% perfect, but it's not far behind.

Stryker 01-20-2023 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16746782)
I'll probably play the game after the season is over. Probably my favorite game of all time.

Ditto! :thumb:

007 01-20-2023 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16741122)
Had never even heard of the video game.

But that episode was awesome. Cannot wait for more.


Dude that game was outstanding. If you have time to game at all, give it a go.

Sassy Squatch 01-20-2023 07:18 PM

I really enjoyed the cameo that Geralt from The Witcher made in the games.

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Stryker 01-20-2023 07:22 PM

Ok, If you have not heard of this game or partially played it, PLEASE go back and play this game. The gameplay, let alone, the story is absolutely beyond words. It is the most incredible game I have ever played and so glad I played this game all the way through. The only other games that compare are God of War and the entire Uncharted series. Guy's, do yourselves a favor and play this game. PS. Thank us later after you play/finish this incredible game :thumb:

Sure-Oz 01-20-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16748923)
Ok, If you have not heard of this game or partially played it, PLEASE go back and play this game. The gameplay, let alone, the story is absolutely beyond words. It is the most incredible game I have ever played and so glad I played this game all the way through. The only other games that compare are God of War and the entire Uncharted series. Guy's, do yourselves a favor and play this game. PS. Thank us later after you play/finish this incredible game :thumb:

Absolutely. Loved uncharted but tlou was my gig. I still liked the 2ns game alot but understood why others didn't

Sure-Oz 01-20-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16748817)
Ditto! :thumb:

Hopefully I'll have a PS5 by then lol

Stryker 01-20-2023 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16748981)
Hopefully I'll have a PS5 by then lol

LOL! Broth'a they are so readily available now it is not even worth discussion.

Sure-Oz 01-20-2023 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16749009)
LOL! Broth'a they are so readily available now it is not even worth discussion.

Good! I haven't looked in forever...I'll start saving now lol

Raiderhater 01-20-2023 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 16748923)
Ok, If you have not heard of this game or partially played it, PLEASE go back and play this game. The gameplay, let alone, the story is absolutely beyond words. It is the most incredible game I have ever played and so glad I played this game all the way through. The only other games that compare are God of War and the entire Uncharted series. Guy's, do yourselves a favor and play this game. PS. Thank us later after you play/finish this incredible game :thumb:

I would love to but, I’ve long been an XBox user.

Even with out the game knowledge/experience, it was a solid first episode. And I do enjoy a good zombie story.

BleedingRed 01-21-2023 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16748469)
On a side note: You know what game would make an EXCELLENT series?

Mother****ing Red Dead Redemption.

After west world flopped last season I need this

The Franchise 01-21-2023 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16748469)
On a side note: You know what game would make an EXCELLENT series?

Mother****ing Red Dead Redemption.

God yes. And you'd have a couple of seasons built in with both RDR2 and the original.

TinyEvel 01-21-2023 05:25 PM

So far this is a great adaptation. I trust HBO.

I think calling this “another zombie movie” is unfair. The evolution of fungus and all it’s effects has barely even been revealed.

Plus, most disaster movies, the disaster is a situation. The real danger is how people treat each other and do whatever is necessary to survive. I’m looking forward to how they manifest both.

Add my vote to the “you must play this game” crowd. Naughty dog is my favorite developer, well, tied with Rockstar. But the writing and craftsmanship of uncharted and TLOU is top notch. TLOU was harder to beat IMO than any uncharted game.

Sure-Oz 01-22-2023 10:10 PM

Episode 2 was fantastic.

dmahurin 01-22-2023 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 16757812)
Episode 2 was fantastic.

Yes it was. Just a few subtle changes to be its own thing but still be true to the game. I'm loving this.

BWillie 01-22-2023 11:38 PM

Heard all the rave, then saw it was another ****ing zombie show. Exhausting. Sad. Would have watched it, but more zombie bullshit.

A Salt Weapon 01-23-2023 01:25 AM

Finally watched and damn they followed the game to a t that first episode. Excited for the next one.

HemiEd 01-23-2023 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16757927)
Heard all the rave, then saw it was another ****ing zombie show. Exhausting. Sad. Would have watched it, but more zombie bullshit.

I just happened on the program before seeing this thread and clicked it off when the old lady did that crazy shit early.

But, after seeing these posts, I went back and gave it another shot. It is a good flick, looking forward to watching episode 2

srvy 01-23-2023 07:14 AM

I see why Pedro wears a full-face helmet in the Mandalorian. He is kind or an ugly ****er. Pretty damn good actor though.

WhawhaWhat 01-23-2023 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 16757836)
Yes it was. Just a few subtle changes to be its own thing but still be true to the game. I'm loving this.

You may have already watched it but the Inside Look they have after each episode explained some of the choices they made regarding those little changes this week.

Sure-Oz 01-23-2023 12:47 PM

The detail of this world is great. They've put alot of care into this so far.

Otter 01-23-2023 03:03 PM

Looks promising. Never played the game but checked it out on YouTube. Only watched the first 12 minutes of the game and it was very, very close to the HBO series. As far as the game, too slow paced for my taste.

TwistedChief 01-23-2023 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 16758002)
I just happened on the program before seeing this thread and clicked it off when the old lady did that crazy shit early.

But, after seeing these posts, I went back and gave it another shot. It is a good flick, looking forward to watching episode 2

I’m not big into zombie stuff either, but I thought some of the beginning of The Walking Dead series was pretty damn compelling.

This puts that to shame though.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-23-2023 05:33 PM

So the race swapping just doesn't bother you guys anymore?

Pogue 01-23-2023 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16748469)
On a side note: You know what game would make an EXCELLENT series?

Mother****ing Red Dead Redemption.

Red Dead Revolver had a great story, maybe better than redemption.
I loved all 3 games.

Another game that should be adapted is Mass Effect. Amazon studios has the rights to that, and with the success of Last of Us, it would behoove Amazon to get moving on Mass Effect.

ThaVirus 01-23-2023 05:38 PM

No one gives a shit if it’s good

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-23-2023 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16759495)
No one gives a shit if it’s good

It's never good when the point of the production is to show that minorities are superior to whites.

I don't support that shit.

ThaVirus 01-23-2023 09:43 PM

So anyway..

I watched the second episode and it was pretty tense. I’ve only played the first hour or so of the game so I was shocked at how difficult the fungus zombies were to deal with. And that was only two of them. Then you’ve gotta deal with the hive mind as well.

Spoiler!

Pogue 01-24-2023 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16760033)
So anyway..

I watched the second episode and it was pretty tense. I’ve only played the first hour or so of the game so I was shocked at how difficult the fungus zombies were to deal with. And that was only two of them. Then you’ve gotta deal with the hive mind as well.

Spoiler!

Spoiler!

TwistedChief 01-24-2023 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16759999)
It's never good when the point of the production is to show that minorities are superior to whites.

I don't support that shit.

This is why no one wants to join your book club.

KCUnited 01-24-2023 04:52 AM

That was a terrific episodes.

The tension of A Quiet Place but with fungus zombies.

WhawhaWhat 01-24-2023 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16760338)
That was a terrific episodes.

The tension of A Quiet Place but with fungus zombies.

I first read this as you saying terrible and I was like "HOW?!?"

Gravedigger 01-24-2023 10:35 AM

I would've liked to see him or Tess shiv the clicker in the neck/head. Given that was the only way you could quickly dispose of them in the game.

Sure-Oz 01-24-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16760720)
I would've liked to see him or Tess shiv the clicker in the neck/head. Given that was the only way you could quickly dispose of them in the game.

Problem was they didn't get a chance to sneak up on them. They are brutally tough in this show to kill. Loving the slight changes and more back story

dmahurin 01-24-2023 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16759485)
So the race swapping just doesn't bother you guys anymore?

Pedro is half white/half Chilean and looks exactly like Joel. It's not a big deal.

dmahurin 01-24-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16759999)
It's never good when the point of the production is to show that minorities are superior to whites.

I don't support that shit.

Using an actor who looks like the character who is half white instead of 100% white means minority superiority to you? You must be so miserable all the time. You are the best comedy on this site.

ToxSocks 01-24-2023 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16759485)
So the race swapping just doesn't bother you guys anymore?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16759999)
It's never good when the point of the production is to show that minorities are superior to whites.

I don't support that shit.

WTF are you talking about?

dmahurin 01-24-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16760989)
WTF are you talking about?

He is a clown. Just look at him as satire all the time, laugh at him, and move on. He tries to quote stoic ideas but is the whiniest person at the same time. It's wonderfully funny.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-24-2023 12:40 PM

I havent watched the show. I read that they made Joel's daughter a black girl. Am i wrong?

dmahurin 01-24-2023 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 16761100)
I havent watched the show. I read that they made Joel's daughter a black girl. Am i wrong?

His daughter is a character that is around for 15 minutes and it made zero difference to the story. It changed nothing but was played by an actress who conveyed the gravity of the role perfectly. It had nothing to do with your perception of the world.

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 01-24-2023 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dmahurin (Post 16761108)
His daughter is a character that is around for 15 minutes and it made zero difference to the story. It changed nothing but was played by an actress who conveyed the gravity of the role perfectly. It had nothing to do with your perception of the world.

Have you played the last of us 2 sir marcus arrelious? In almost the first scene Joel is bludgeoned to death by a hardcore lesbian. Then you play the whole game to learn that his death was totally right and the world is better with his kind mutilated and buried.

Tell me which one of us doesnt get the point.

dmahurin 01-24-2023 02:25 PM

I've played both. Way to not spoiler tag it for others though. And she isn't a lesbian, she is with a guy. And that's not what the story of the second game is at all.

And that spelling of his name is incredible mister scholar.


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