You're doing it wrong. Rock is about rebellion. You need to bang on her door and threaten to send her to a military school if she doesn't stop playing that devil music. Throw in some random phrases like "Straighten up and fly right!" and "MY house MY Rules!" and occasionally grumble under your breath about "dope smoking negroes" while you're at it.

Only if she were playing country.

Yeah, I hate 99.99% of country music, too. Some of those old guys could play the hell out of a guitar though:

Whenever that Barbie Girl song came out.

LMAO

Loved Thin Lizzy!! Used to hear a lot of their stuff on the radio. Cowboy Song and Whiskey in a Jar they played mostly. FM radio at night they went deeper in their albums.

Pre internet, I think the only song I had ever heard by them besides The Boys Are Back in Town was Jailbreak. And I think the only reason that they played it was because it was some sort of "deep cuts weekend" thing they were doing.

I live in TN and Nashville rock radio has always sucked. Surprisingly shitty music venues for rock, too.


More Thin Lizzy:

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This is how I felt...heroin (and crack / meth with layne staley), kurt cobain being dead, pearl jam becoming terrible and that reeruned song "cumbersome", people got tired of grunge. It ran out of good music.

80's music was fun and upbeat.

Early 90's music was very dark and very depressing which is why "Grunge" had such a short run, which led to bands like Lit, Sum 41, Blink 182 and Fallout Boy's success in the late 90's because much of their music was fun and not suicidal.

Once chicks stop digging whatever the popular fad is in music, it dies. You start off with something raw, it gets commercialized, it dies when the next big thing comes along.


Folk revival - Hippie music - Dead
Funk - Disco - Dead
Punk - New Wave - Dead
Metal - Hair Bands - Dead
Grunge - Lit, Sum 41, Blink 182, and Fallout Boy - I wish I was dead


In short, bitches insisting on "music you can dance to" ruin everything.

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Also:

Boston - Boston

This thread has lead me to looking up a lot of odd musical trivia. I just read that Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell album sold 43 million copies. Is there anybody here old enough that they can explain why the people of 1977 thought a sweaty 300 pound man wearing a puffy shirt and suspenders singing parody versions of Springsteen's Thunder Road was the hottest thing on the planet?

43 MILLION copies!


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I just don't get it. You can't blame everything on rampant cocaine abuse and the Nixon administration.

That's such a great album, from end to end.

And...

Heart - Dreamboat Annie
Steve Miller - Fly Like an Eagle
Bob Seger - Night Moves
Tom Petty's debut

It was a pretty damn good year.

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I'll add some...

Presence - Led Zep
Stevie Wonder - Songs in the Key of Life
Wings Over America - Paul McCartney

Fleetwood Mac - Rumors

Recorded in 1976 and released in Feb. 1977.


God Damn it was a good time to be alive!

Yeah. But Rave/Ecstasy/EDM/etc. is still pretty fun...

Following up on the 1992 post 1993 was really strong as well.

Siamese Dream by Smashing Pumpkins

VS by Pearl Jam

Automatic for the People by REM

Mellow Gold by Beck

Undertow by Tool

Lots of good music everywhere The Cranberries had a few good songs. PM Dawn who I personally liked but don't rate with a lot of people.

Singles wise...

No Rain by Blind Melon

RUMP SHAKER

Laid by James

Nothin but a G thing by Dre

Some Gin Blossoms songs

Creep by Radiohead

That wild "I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)" Meatloaf song

If you are ever feeling the urge to circle back around I really enjoy Geoff Farina's band Karate. Their album "Some boots" as this jazz\rock fusion college radio feel that is fantastic.

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Spotify is the most incredible thing I can just jump through the looking glass of all these groups that influenced other groups or something that has an interesting sound and it just never ends.

Kurt was murdered/"suicided".
Kirsten Pfaff was murdered/"overdosed".
Layne began his reclusive descent into hell, addiction, and death in earnest.
Billy shaved his head, declared that "Grunge [is] dead" and started turning the Pumpkins into his post-alternative psuedo-industrial band.
Candlebox.
Bush.

By 1996 :

Soundgarden was breaking up.
Candlebox still existed.
So did Bush.
Layne was already losing teeth (saw his last show ever, opening for KISS at Kemper)
Courtney Love had "cleaned up" and went Hollywood for People vs Larry Flynt...

But yeah, "grunge" wasn't ever a musical genre to me. It was totally a marketing ploy.

Jane's Addiction were an art-rock band.
Pearl Jam were always an arena rock band and had more in common with Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin and SRV than they did with Alice In Chains or Nirvana.
Alice In Chains was a metal band.
Nirvana was a punk band.
Stone Temple Pilots was like crossing Black Sabbath with Bowie and the Beatles, and really had absolutely nothing to do with Seattle, "grunge" fashion, or any of that shit other than their first album came out in 1992 so they got lumped in with all the other bands as "grunge" - just because it was convenient. It was category the industries could use to target a demographic.

When they had "Grungewear" at the GAP at the mall, when they had $49.99 flannel shirts and $120 pairs of Doc Martens with a Nirvana shirt on the mannequin in 1994...THAT is definitely when "grunge" died for me.

Marilyn Manson's first album came out that year, Floyd's Division Bell, NIN's Downward Spiral, Far Beyond Driven by Pantera, Tom Petty's Wildflowers, Sleeps With Angels by Neil Young, Tical by Method Man, Clapton From the Cradle, Portishead's Dummy, Beastie Boys Ill Communication Snoop's Doggystyle..and so did the Stones Voodoo Lounge, along with Tesla's Bust A Nut and the Black Crowes Amorica so I had PLENTY of great music in my life that summer and it had nothing to do with "grunge" or Seattle.

Even the so-called "alterna-grunge" bands were putting out albums that were showing a scope and artistry far beyond the limitations that are ascribed to "grunge" and all it implies :

Vitalogy is Pearl Jam's most bracing work. It's not their best songs (Yield) or best sounding (No Code) or most iconic (some would say Ten, I say VS...) but Vitalogy is their most daring, most bracing...

Purple was a huge leap forward for STP - and yet, this album sounds it could have been recorded 20 years before it was...

Superunkown is a veritable masterpiece of modern music. It's on the level of the greatest albums ever recorded - calling it "grunge" isn't accurate. At different turns melodic, metallic, and even recalling elements of Stockhausen's theory of musiqué concreté at times...they all were leaving the "grunge" moniker behind, like a fart in the wind.

Just my $.02.

Dreamboat Annie came out in 1975 ;)

Nice to see a strong consensus of mainly early 90's and 70's. I went to HS in the early 90's and the music was pretty incredible but I would have to vote 70's hands down. I mean Stones/Beatles/Zep/George Clinton in their prime (my opinion, miss me with that 50/60s crap and pass the White album please) is tough to argue against.

In Canada.

It was released in the US in 1976. :harumph:

The Offspring's "Smash" also came out that year, I believe. Very good album, imo.

What pickups do you prefer? My current favorite set is Black Winter from Seymour Duncan. I'm a pretty terrible player, but man do I love the way those pups sound. My son can properly make them scream.

I have a DiMarzio P-90 in the neck of my 335, and a DiMarzio Tone Zone in the bridge.

My Tele Deluxe also has DiMarzios - HFH-1 in the neck and I forget what went into the bridge, but it screeams.

Ryan has Seymour Duncan Antiquities in his Les Paul, and I like the Duncan Pearly gates. I have a Lindy Fralin single coil in my 50's style P-bass, so Fralin is always on the table for me now...

Fine then. :spock:

:p

(I actually looked it up, because I actually thought in my mind that it came out in Canada in 1974, but I was wrong.)

There's footage of super early Heart, Dreamboat Annie era, playing to like 200 people on Canadian TV and man they KILL it. Worth seeking out.

I totally get what you're saying from that angle. And what you're saying about those band's scope of artistry becoming apparent is why 1994 is kind of the peak 90s for me. If you're talking about pure grunge in the form of music (7/4 time, dark, hard) that's cool but not as interesting to me.

I depends on the guitar and what I'm doing with said guitar (or bass) but generally speaking, every guitar is completely different. The main thing that I want from each guitar is a Balanced Sound. Not too bassy, not to midrangey and definitely not too bright. The Classic 57's are pretty much my baseline pickup but then each guitar requires a different pickup in order to achieve the sound I want to hear because all woods, necks and hardware are different, although I tend to go with low to medium output pickups because I want to hear the guitar, not the pickup.

Jaguar: Seymour Duncan Jaguar Antiquities

Mary Kay Strat: Fender 69's

Telecaster: Lollar 52's

Nashville Tele: Duncan Tele Neck, Lipstick in the middle, Quarter Pounder in the the Bridge.

Les Paul Custom: Gibson Classic 57 in the neck, Duncan Pearly Gates in the Bridge. I had a Gibson Burstbucker Pro in this guitar from 2008 until 2 weeks ago The PG is far more balanced.

Les Paul 60's Tribute: Classic 57 neck, Classic 57+ bridge

Custom Charvel - Duncan Jazz in the neck, Duncan Screamin' Demon in the bridge (I just replaced a JB that had been in there for years)

Custom Charvel (Dropped D): Duncan Jazz Neck, Duncan Custom Custom bridge (Same as above. Too much low mid from 200-400 so I swapped it for a CC).

Elitist Casino: Lollar 50's P90's (Freddy King) in both positions

Elitist Sheraton: Lollar Imperial Low Wounds in both positions

ESP Custom Stratocaster: Cool Rails Bridge, Classic Stack RWRP Middle, Vintage Hot Neck

Epiphone Broadway Elitist: Gibson Classic 57's.

Epiphone Prophecy 24 fret Baritone(I rarely, if ever, use this guitar): EMG 81 & 85

Gibson 61 Reissue SG: Lollar P90's

I have a 51 reissue ash body Precision in which Lindy Fralin made a custom, side-by-side single coil/humbucker which is killer.

All three of my fretted Jazz Basses have the Fender Vintage 74 pickups while my fretless Jazz has Duncan Quarter Pounders. The only stock bass I own is an Epiphone Jack Casady, which Dave Grohl turned me onto and it's really cool for specific tones, generally what's called Modern Rock today, although I've used it on some uptempo Active Rock tracks as well.

To me, the early-mid 90s was awful. I hate grunge like I hate the Broncos. To me, it was the death of rock.

Of course, if I had been born in 1980 instead of 1965, I'd probably feel differently.

I had a couple of friends that tried to "make it" in Los Angeles who ended up moving to Vegas around 2000. They put in a ton of time creating backing tracks and sequences for a 90's Grunge cover band and spent nearly a year getting the show prepared for clubs and casinos.

After about a year of trying to get gigs but only ending up doing a couple of shows, they called me to ask what they did wrong and if I could make any suggestions in order to help them get more gigs.

My advice: "Nobody goes to Vegas to be bummed out. People want to have fun and party, not listen to people droning on about their shitty lives and drug addictions. My advice is to ditch the whole Grunge thing and do an 80's tribute band or something else that people want to hear".

They broke up and never gigged again. I shouldn't laugh but it's still funny.

LMAO

ROFL

I should add, that's too bad it didn't work out for them but that's pretty damn funny.

WTH....... 70's were great , then Merle Haggard hit the scene in the 80's. Nobody beats Merle. But I'm old and just a good old country boy.........

Thanks man. Really appreciate the listing. I love guitars and have learned a ton about them. Love picking up non-functioning guitars and fixing them. Mostly they just get placed in the guitar rack in my kids room. He mainly sticks with his Epiphone 1984 Explorer. He currently idolizes Hetfield and loves playing metal. Though he has played in his schools jazz band. Picked him up an inexpensive MIM Fender Strat HSS a few years ago that he uses for that.

I picked up this bare Warlock off Ebay a couple years ago and just dropped some cheap china pickups in it. They sound surprisingly good, and it is super easy to play.

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That's awesome, Dude! And yeah, guitars have come a long, long way in terms of quality, playability and sound in the past 40 years. You can find a $200-$300 dollar Mexi or Chinese made Fender guitar or bass, swap out the pickups, do a nice setup and have an instrument a million times better than when I was a kid when all the cheap guitars were Hondo and other trashy off brands.

Enjoy and have fun! :D

I was also born in the 60's, so I was too young to enjoy 60's rock as it was happening. But I spent a lot of high school and even college listening to late 60's (into some early 70's) rock. Main stream stuff like early Stones, Led Zeppelin, early Pink Floyd, and Velvet Underground less main stream stuff psychedelic and progressive rock. King Crimson, Yes, etc. I mostly ignored mid and late 70s rock (outside of some punk and Grateful Dead) and ignored 80's stuff except to the extent that it obviously got played around me (I got into Rush because my Dungeon and Dragons buddies were way into it) and at parties. Sure, there was some fun dance music, Boston, Cars, and even the Go Go's and so on. And the occasional group would catch my attention. REM, Talking Heads, etc. But it was a lot of late 60's music when I was picking the albums.

I had left KU/Lawrence by the early 90's but I liked grunge. I hated it when rap took over but I enjoyed the 90's rave scene and enjoyed all the Dead shows that were easy to get to in the NorCal area.

You can find good rock from 1965 on. Each to their own, but I guess I would still choose something in the 1968 to 1972 or so window. Especially given how ground breaking it was at the time, which is a little hard to appreciate now.

Lol Merle hit the scene long before the 80’s

I pretty much loathe late 60s-early 70s progressive/psychedelic rock, particularly the Doors and Led Zeppelin. And while I don't hate the Beatles, I'm definitely not a fan. I guess I do like some early Stones stuff, but that's about it. For the most part, only things from that era I like are Star Trek, muscle cars and war movies.

You and I should never take a long road trip. :D