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Clyde Frog 05-18-2023 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16950158)
I really like Shang Chi and knew nothing of the character going in.


I liked it as well. IMO, Shang Chi would have been so much better if they didn’t try to ham fist “girl boss” shit into it.


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Jamie 05-19-2023 03:14 PM

I liked Shang Chi too, but it feels like that movie just came and went. The same with a lot of the TV shows. I think that's part of why Marvel feels so listless right now, they've gone too long without pulling things together. They really needed an in-between Avengers movie to let these new characters bounce off each other and keep them fresh in our minds.

Bowser 05-19-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16951380)
I liked Shang Chi too, but it feels like that movie just came and went. The same with a lot of the TV shows. I think that's part of why Marvel feels so listless right now, they've gone too long without pulling things together. They really needed an in-between Avengers movie to let these new characters bounce off each other and keep them fresh in our minds.

Curious what they'll do now with having the Jonathan Majors debacle dropped in their laps, because I don't think there was another Avengers movie slated until Kang Dynasty then Secret Wars directly after.

Sassy Squatch 05-19-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16951380)
I liked Shang Chi too, but it feels like that movie just came and went. The same with a lot of the TV shows. I think that's part of why Marvel feels so listless right now, they've gone too long without pulling things together. They really needed an in-between Avengers movie to let these new characters bounce off each other and keep them fresh in our minds.

I actually disagree. Think a large part of why I enjoyed GOTG3 is that it was self contained. The MCU is getting larger and more convoluted as we go along and it makes it incredibly hard to tell a creative story when you're constantly having to link events and explain away stuff that just doesn't make sense established in other movies.

They really need to establish the new main characters first without immediately throwing them into the overgrowing melting pot. It's what they did with Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

Sassy Squatch 05-19-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16951383)
Curious what they'll do now with having the Jonathan Majors debacle dropped in their laps, because I don't think there was another Avengers movie slated until Kang Dynasty then Secret Wars directly after.

They need to either recast and get on with it or pivot to a different big bad and let Kang simmer some more. That situation isn't going to resolve for a long time with how messy it is.

Jamie 05-19-2023 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16951421)
They really need to establish the new main characters first without immediately throwing them into the overgrowing melting pot. It's what they did with Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

Maybe it feels that way looking back, but they really didn't. Cap and Thor had one movie each in 2011, which were immediately followed by Avengers in 2012. Iron Man had more of a lead-up (four years and a second movie), but that was more because Marvel was still getting up and running.

Shang Chi on the other hand had a movie in 2019, and probably won't be seen again until Kang Dynasty in 2025. That's six years between appearances. Even if you give them a pass on the lost COVID year it's still too long to maintain any momentum.

Sassy Squatch 05-19-2023 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 16951560)
Maybe it feels that way looking back, but they really didn't. Cap and Thor had one movie each in 2011, which were immediately followed by Avengers in 2012. Iron Man had more of a lead-up (four years and a second movie), but that was more because Marvel was still getting up and running.

Shang Chi on the other hand had a movie in 2019, and probably won't be seen again until Kang Dynasty in 2025. That's six years between appearances. Even if you give them a pass on the lost COVID year it's still too long to maintain any momentum.

Well, there were also only six heroes at that point and supporting cast, and two of the six were really minor. I wouldn't be able to count without google the amount they need to account for now.

The Franchise 05-21-2023 09:15 AM

I would put that on par with No Way Home as my favorite movie since Endgame. And honestly, I think it might edge it out. For a group that I knew nothing about before the first movie, I’ve become completely involved in all of their stories. It was bittersweet to see it all end but I’m glad they didn’t just keep it going and make it worse.

I guess the only two minor things that I could nitpick was Gamora and Adam Warlock.

Rams Fan 05-21-2023 12:43 PM

I enjoyed it a lot. Very self-contained and not too focused on world-building/tying it with other parts of the MCU.

The animal brutality at times was hard to watch, but I felt a majority of the time it was necessary to tell Rocket's origin.

I don't quite understand the point of the High Evolutionary creating a world of furries, but whatever. For a Marvel Villain, I thought he was good. None of this redeemable quality bullshit.

My major gripe aside from some of the animal scenes was Warlock being under used.

stumppy 05-21-2023 06:17 PM

Pretty damn good, the 3D was nice. Without letting it settle in and marinate a bit I'd rate is as top 3 or 4 Marvel movie. The animal cruelty was especially tough to watch, certainly got a bit misty in the theater.

BigRichard 05-22-2023 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16952799)
I enjoyed it a lot. Very self-contained and not too focused on world-building/tying it with other parts of the MCU.

The animal brutality at times was hard to watch, but I felt a majority of the time it was necessary to tell Rocket's origin.

I don't quite understand the point of the High Evolutionary creating a world of furries, but whatever. For a Marvel Villain, I thought he was good. None of this redeemable quality bullshit.

My major gripe aside from some of the animal scenes was Warlock being under used.

He was trying to make a perfect world but had failed for the umpteenth time so they decided to scrap the world, like they had done on all the failed attempts, and start over again.

Rams Fan 05-22-2023 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 16953439)
He was trying to make a perfect world but had failed for the umpteenth time so they decided to scrap the world, like they had done on all the failed attempts, and start over again.

I get that, but I'm sure there's a way to do it without showing furries and instead focus on a humanoid clone/project (the Sovereign, for instance) while also showing Rocket as a "failed" experiment along the way without all of the animal stuff.

Sassy Squatch 05-22-2023 07:32 AM

Maybe he went to a furry con when he visited Earth and viewed that as the perfect society

The Franchise 05-22-2023 09:15 AM

I like how he turned into Red Skull at the end of it.

staylor26 05-22-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16951421)
I actually disagree. Think a large part of why I enjoyed GOTG3 is that it was self contained. The MCU is getting larger and more convoluted as we go along and it makes it incredibly hard to tell a creative story when you're constantly having to link events and explain away stuff that just doesn't make sense established in other movies.

They really need to establish the new main characters first without immediately throwing them into the overgrowing melting pot. It's what they did with Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America.

Exactly, every MCU show/movie aside from No Way Home and GOTG 3 has been to set up another movie/show with very little pay off so far.

It was nice to have an actual ending.

Pitt Gorilla 05-24-2023 03:56 PM

Thought it was a great movie.

listopencil 05-25-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 16945519)
I haven't seen the movie, so I'm not questioning your position on either the visuals or the concepts, but I do have to ask (in context of the films, not anyone's real life positions on any of this stuff):


Isn't grasping such cruel treatment of him in his formation stage crucial to understanding his character as a "serious" character rather than just a caricature?

Yes. The movie made me appreciate the character more and, I think, made him a stronger character. I just didn't expect it to hit me as hard as it did.

Just Passin' By 05-25-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 16958072)
Yes. The movie made me appreciate the character more and, I think, made him a stronger character. I just didn't expect it to hit me as hard as it did.


Thank you very much for your answer.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-30-2023 09:59 PM

Great movie. See it in theaters...

Gravedigger 05-31-2023 08:18 AM

Definitely better than 2, hard to find much wrong with this one. Gunn is a great director, but it's pretty obvious that in order to get the audience vested, he just needed to marry the world he built, with human beings natural concern for animal endangerment.

I don't know why the high evolutionary needed to put robotic spider legs and a metal gag on a bunny, or wheels on a walrus, when all the inhabitants of counter-earth were animal mirrors of humans on earth with no machinery or cybernetic enhancements on them, but the team up at the end definitely hit the right note, with the music score that accompanied that scene, chef's kiss.

That was some of the best acting I've see Chris Pratt pull off. His scenes where he's angry, confused, sad, it was the best work I've seen by him so far in his career. With acting like that you forget that he's basically screaming while surrounded by people in green spandex. Drax has the best lines all the time; his humor is so dry and so dark but he makes me laugh almost every time. The back and forth him and Quill have when Quill says "We're going to go through anyone in our way." Then Drax says "We'll kill them all!" Then Quill says, "No Killing" then Drax says, "We'll kill a few of them." Then Quill says "No killing." Then Drax says, "We'll kill one guy, one stupid guy who nobody likes." I lost it in the theater.

BigBeauford 05-31-2023 08:27 AM

Yeah this was a great send-off even if I felt like Pratt had significantly less to do than the previous 2 movies. I really liked the fact that it was a mostly self-contained movie and felt divorced from the Marvel Universe. Probably going to be the last Marvel movie I watch for the foreseeable future.

Hammock Parties 05-31-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 16964623)
That was some of the best acting I've see Chris Pratt pull off.

Yes. Deconstructing Starlord as a drunk jerk was brilliant.

Monticore 05-31-2023 08:48 AM

Did they explain or maybe I missed it but why
Spoiler!

Sassy Squatch 05-31-2023 11:23 AM

Two different explanations.

Spoiler!

Gravedigger 05-31-2023 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16964653)
Yes. Deconstructing Starlord as a drunk jerk was brilliant.

Not that beginning part, but the scenes with Rocket and his sincerity with Gamorra I believe were very well done considering the only roles he's ever done are animated movies, Jurassic World and this role, it was his best stuff regardless of how low the bar might be to clear on that.

crayzkirk 08-08-2023 12:35 PM

Finally saw this; the animal experimentation was hard to watch yet necessary for the story to understand the big bad evil villain and the anger Rocket has. Not like we haven't done bad things to animals and each other in the name of 'progress'.

Even with the dark tone of the movie, it was good to throw a few laughs in with Drax. Otherwise, this is just pretty dark. They gave Mantis a bit of an arc; her character never really got a lot of treatment. Not quite as good as the first however much better than the second. And yes, it was good to have a standalone movie that didn't require watching the Disney TV series.

Adam was pretty much a wasted opportunity to explore the Sovereign in more detail.

RaidersOftheCellar 08-08-2023 12:52 PM

I've seen multiple posts about the animal experimentation being "hard to watch." It's a fictional movie for God's sake.

GloucesterChief 08-08-2023 01:04 PM

It was a good send off of the MCU really. Gunn showed Watiti how to do a darker movie with a somewhat comedic tone. No one came off as dumb or saying a joke to just say a joke.

BigRichard 08-08-2023 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17047908)
It was a good send off of the MCU really. Gunn showed Watiti how to do a darker movie with a somewhat comedic tone. No one came off as dumb or saying a joke to just say a joke.

Yeah, I will give Watiti one more chance but if he puts out another garbage movie like he did in that last Thor movie.. I will pretty much write him off.

WhawhaWhat 08-08-2023 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 17047952)
Yeah, I will give Watiti one more chance but if he puts out another garbage movie like he did in that last Thor movie.. I will pretty much write him off.

One more chance... maybe... once it gets to Disney+

Nixhex 08-09-2023 07:31 AM

They always do a great job incorporating music into these movies. This one was no different. I enjoyed it.

KC_Lee 08-09-2023 08:40 AM

Finally caught this one, good movie, did a really nice job wrapping up the original cast story arcs and setting up the new players going forward.

BleedingRed 08-09-2023 09:15 AM

Great movie, the casting was great. Music was great. Action was great....

GoTG might be one of the most COMPLETE start to finish quality series MCU has ever had.

ThaVirus 08-13-2023 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixhex (Post 17048725)
They always do a great job incorporating music into these movies. This one was no different. I enjoyed it.

I love Reasons by Earth, Wind and Fire but that one stuck out like a sore thumb to me

mr. tegu 08-21-2023 08:36 AM

We still have about an hour left but I assume the animal experiments are done. All I can think is, that’s it? That’s what was supposed to be hard to watch?

As for the movie it’s decent to this point. First Marvel movie or content we’ve watched since Spider Man and Dr. Strange so I have no idea how we got to this point with the characters but it doesn’t seem to matter.

Mr. Plow 08-21-2023 04:47 PM

Finally watched this yesterday. Overall, give it a B. Nothing out of this world, but worth the watch.

I didn't look before the movie, but it was longer than I expected. I felt like it drug on at certain points.

At one point we had to pause the movie to get dinner handled and I was like "yikes, we still have an hour left." But that last hour was really good.

Sassy Squatch 08-21-2023 05:00 PM

Yeah. I really like this movie still but can't argue it could've used a good trimming. Honestly probably could've done without that whole Orgocorp trip.

Gravedigger 08-22-2023 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17066854)
Yeah. I really like this movie still but can't argue it could've used a good trimming. Honestly probably could've done without that whole Orgocorp trip.

BUT HOW ELSE WOULD WE SEE MANTIS TRICKING MEN INTO BEING INFATUATED WITH DRAX??!?!?!? COMEDY GOLD I TELL YOU! AND WHERE WOULD WE PUT NATHAN FILLION?!?!?!?

BigBeauford 08-22-2023 07:46 AM

Loved just about every minute of it. These characters meant a lot to James Gunn, and I'm happy they got a proper send off, even if this was a bit too Rocket-centric.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-22-2023 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17066129)
We still have about an hour left but I assume the animal experiments are done. All I can think is, that’s it? That’s what was supposed to be hard to watch?

As for the movie it’s decent to this point. First Marvel movie or content we’ve watched since Spider Man and Dr. Strange so I have no idea how we got to this point with the characters but it doesn’t seem to matter.

Probably the same people that bawled over a movie about children's toys. People are weird

lcarus 08-22-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17048901)
Great movie, the casting was great. Music was great. Action was great....

GoTG might be one of the most COMPLETE start to finish quality series MCU has ever had.

It's the only thing from MCU I care to see. I lost interest in all the other stuff after around Civil War.

BWillie 08-24-2023 02:31 PM

It was unfortunate that Zoe Saldana's character was such a bitch in this one.

Valiant 08-27-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 17048901)
Great movie, the casting was great. Music was great. Action was great....

GoTG might be one of the most COMPLETE start to finish quality series MCU has ever had.

I was talking about this at work after rewatching them. From start to finish. Best stories, acting and fleshed out characters.

I would love to see a spin off of Stallone's guardians. The originals. And the new guardians. Maybe have to rescue quill and others.

Sure-Oz 08-30-2023 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17068701)
It's the only thing from MCU I care to see. I lost interest in all the other stuff after around Civil War.

Lol really? You didn't see infinity war and end game? The bitching I see has been mostly since after end game.


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