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JD Powers sells rankings so dont put much stock in this BS. Its a nice airport but far from world class and with no hub its just a place to park and fly somewhere else and start over. Better than Omaha and Fargo but not in league with real large airports

Oh boy, now when do we become a hub? LMAO

:popcorn:

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I guess JD Powers didn't fly in around 9pm and see just how bad the backup is for arrivals... Just wait until we're the hub they claimed we might be because of the shitty art and new terminal smell (but won't), it'll be all the more funny.

It’s an improvement on the old terminal, which isn’t saying much.

You have to really want to say it's better to really think it is. Sure it's brighter, big deal, but the food courts aren't much more open during prime travel times (5am - 7am, and 9pm - 10:30pm) than before.

And the curbside pickup is still a ****ing mess, so clearly JD Powers were escorted around that debacle.

Shh Zach has his identity tied to this shitty place

KC isn’t big enough to be a hub (metro wise). It’s not even a domicile for airlines.

KC airport is like all the other Midwest cities. It’s a spoke on the hub.

Dallas Denver and Chicago are Hubs. KC like OKC and others isn nothing more than a spoke. I’m not even sure MCI has direct international flights?

I'm not gonna lie, I get a kick out of the idiots trying to figure out how to use them.

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Seems like every time I fly back, it's a connecting flight to Indy.

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If KC became a big hub, doubtful but let's say it did. It wouldn't really effect arrivals that much, right? Most of the hub traffic never leaves the airport. I guess a few extra travelers would find KC a better destination.

Well that and being surrounded by the existing hubs of Denver, Dallas, and Chicago.

The only idiots are the people who approved them in the first place.

Every single car that has ever been made has won a JD Powers award. So yeah I don't put much stock in their rankings either.

But with that said, the airport is so much better than it used to be and it's not even close. Security lines aren't even that bad even without the individual lines at the gates. And basically a non issue with pre check.

I liked the old terminal because you could just show up and be on the plane in a few minutes but that became the strategy because of how little there was to do, or eat there. With this one, at least if you get there early you won't be bored out of your ****ing mind being stuck in the boarding area with nothing to eat and 10 people sitting on the floor taking turns charging their phones on one of the few outlets they have.

Why does it matter? There's still separate women/men's bathrooms. Hell I think they have bathrooms for service pets now too if you're feeling frisky.

Just wait until he figures out the bathroom on the airplane is gender neutral.

Well it is an international airport, do there's that, but it's a bit more like a participation award than a legit honor. The funny thing was the sell on this new facility was it was going to be the impetus behind great things for KC. LMAO

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Well, at least we got gay-ready shitters to laugh about...

Hubs usually become host cities for meetings, but you're right, us becoming some decent level of a hub was a lie that people fell for.

Being too scared to leave your own home leaves you lots of time to follow me from thread to thread. :):)

The most logical reason for a gender neutral bathroom is giving a dad a chance to help out his poddy training young daughter or vice versa with a mother helping out her son, but I can assure you those weren't the reasons for spending taxpayer money to build one.

Hey I apologize and understand where you're coming from. I was trying to say on the things that are progressive, intending "forward thinking, positive changes", they've done a great job. I'm genuinely not trying to make light of anything related to different demographics of people or politics. In more direct terms, they've made the aesthetics and accessibility very good for all people, but on sheer functionality I don't think its a big step forward. I'll choose words that don't get associated with labels next time.

It cuts down on cost as they don't need as many stalls. Gendered bathrooms have to deal with one line being too long while the other gender may have empty stalls.

BBQ restaurants and a Boulevard Beer Pub is about as local and authentic as it gets. DishonestChieffan strikes again.

The glass jetways are awesome!
The art sucks. We are the city of fountains so we made an electric one to represent the future but it already looks old and shitty. I bet the real reason it is designed without water is simply the cost.
The display about brutalist architecture is cool.
I prefer to spend as little time and money in a ****ing airport as possible, nothing about the place helps me.

Thread is proof that people will complain about anything.

I will be testing out the toilets in this airport in a few weeks. I'll provide a detailed review of my defecation experience here in the near future.

You are going to be disappointed to find that you don’t get to enjoy people peering through the gaps at you or admiring your stylish underwear.

Airport threads are some of the best. It's like reading through a bunch of online reviews.... people absolutely love it, people despise it, people have no clue what they're even reviewing, someone who's been there once loudly wants everyone to know [i]never again![i], people shout at the most random clouds.

And at the end of the day, 99% of the time if you show up an hour in advance, you'll get on the plane.

This is where I'm at. I'm removed from the controversy. All I remembered about KC were that those small security lines were worth more than the yuppie eateries and outdated booshie flair. Seemed like KC had the right idea but we live in a society of superficial redditors so they had to tear it down and build out something that eventually always leads to this...

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Wait. KCI is going to turn into the busiest airport in the USA?

I used to fly every week for work. I preferred the old airport and the easy arrival and departures

But it is what is is

Like the people who complained about the old airport which is what made them make this expensive piece of shit? :hmmm:

I know the TSA didn't like the old design, they were required to have too many checkpoints throughout the three terminals, and the lines were too convenient for their liking.

That said, I have TSA Precheck, Clear, and (for my return) global entry, so often times I do get to skip a lot of the hassle many people have to endure. All are well worth the money IMO.

I'm just waiting for any of the "great things the new terminal will enable" to happen.

I'm with you, from 2000 - 2013 I was out of town for two to three weeks a month, and the old MCI was a dream... But now I get to walk buy restaurants that pretty-much aren't open when travelers need/want them to be.

The temperature at the airport is 67 degrees…..which I think is really stupid, man… because I can’t think of anybody that lives at the airport.

/Carlin

It’s an airport, not a self esteem builder.

Look man I am just impressed you used your own words to form thoughts that did not involve any non sequiturs.

Even if it is making fun of me this is an eye opening post. Look at you trying new things.

DFW is top 5? Bullshit.

That airport is ass.

Never waited more than 10 minutes in TSA line. Food was pretty good. I always park off site and the shuttle picks us up and straight to the car.

If you're doing the route of the TSA without the Pre-check, that would make most sense. If you want less of a hassle, go get the TSA Pre-check.

That'll save you a lot of trouble.

Agreed. I much prefer to fly into Love Field.

Have you seen how fat you are? You sure you aren't the one who's not leaving the house?

According to JD Power, he's only considered "large".


(/all jokes and not part of ya'lls reeruned DC sparked hatred)

I think you should have hyphenated "DC" and "sparked" into "DC-sparked".

A question for the crowd, has anybody tried "Park 'n Go"? We usually do the Parking Spot when we park at the airport, but the prices Park 'n Go seem to be much less, and if their service is just as good as the Parking Spot, it seems like they're worth a shot for our trip this coming week.

So, anybody used/tried Park 'n Go?

All I want to know: are Kohl's bathrooms or MCI bathrooms better to take a great dump?

Kohls are far cleaner. MCI bathrooms are dirty and nasty. Its like the old airport shittters were moved

Now that it's been two years since the new terminal opened, have any reports showing what all it brought to KC been published? Have any "worth it" direct international destinations been added? I've seen Cancun, Jamaica, and Puerto Vallarta, hardly great places. While I'd hate to live in shitty cities like Houston, Denver, Dallas, Loserapolis, Chicago, Miami or Atlanta, those cities sure do offer their citizens a lot in terms of going on vacation without having to deal with shitty layovers.

So far it looks like we spent a shit-ton of money for an overgrown regional airport.

Anyone who thought KC was going to turn into a hub equivalent to Denver or Chicago was being naive or disingenuous.

I don't know if flights overall have changed. There has recently been the first non stop between KC and Sacramento in 15 years or so, and I'm happy about that.

I hear Fedex UPS DHL pilots and package handlers really love it. Airport looky-loos and loiterers and men needing to use women's restroom adore it.

Way better than Phoenix Sky Harbor - hear it's a zoo (jam packed)

Good airport, far superior than the old one.

And if I lived in KC, I feel like it would be pretty low on the list of things to shout at clouds about 2+ years later.

I fly for work fairly often and I love it. Sure it's usually a little bit of a hike to get to my gate, but at what modern airport isn't that the case?

Meh, my point was that it wasn't going to do any of the things they claimed it would do.

It's fine I just didn't know if it had managed to achieve what they wanted it to.

The Clear line is cool, so I guess there's a silver lining.

See ya Friday new-smell MCI...

The hike from gate to the rental car bus was not expected. But not too bad. Not SLC bad, anyway.

Any direct flights to Belize?

Not that I've seen, but Belize please.. :D

It really is a fantastic airport. We are like a real city now. It's not too big and has everything you would want for amenities.

Leads the nation in people just standing on the moving walkway, but otherwise its a great airport

I was actually hoping to hear that the ~$1.5B had resulted in drawing in some substantive economic business that I hadn't heard about but I guess having Clear (which I use), a decent bar just after you exit TSA (which I use), and moving walkways (which I don't use) are pluses.

:usa:

I did have a pleasant shite at KC airport. Very roomy cubicles which was a huge plus. Credit to the toilet attendants because it was spotless and I could have eaten my $100 lunch off the floor had I wanted to. There is also hands free flushing for added cleanliness. I left a bit of a mess but that's because I'm English and dirtying public toilets is part of my culture. The one negative is that the toilet paper dispenser is a bit too far away from the loo.

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I never got round to taking a dump at Kohl's but it's up against stiff competition. It will be hard to top my defecation experience at KC International. Kohl's is one for the bucket list.

Did you use the gender neutral rooms?

Needs bubble craps

I would guess that stuff takes time, too... doubt anyone seriously thought the minute they built a new airport, they'd become an international hub or anything. I'd imagine 2 years in terms of major routes and what not for airlines isn't necessarily a long time either.

And no matter what bullshit politicians spewed, I'd think the general thought was the old airport was guaranteed to never change the status quo, while a new airport gives the airport a chance to expand and provide more international routes (which apparently has already happened to some extent), etc.

I'm sure that % chance and timeline was overstated because that's what people do when they want to convince others to spend a billion dollars, but clearly the old airport was stuck in pre-9/11 days (and more like the 70s) and needed a huge upgrade.

And as a local, I loved the old airport, but now as an out of towner, I totally get why it needed an upgrade (granted, the one big improvement they could make now is moving the rental cars to the terminal instead of doing the shuttle thing).

I once absolutely destroyed a bathroom stall at Heathrow and couldn't even bring myself to tell the next guy in line not to bother, so I get it.

I certainly hope it leads, quickly to many more caribbean routes to places other than Cancun and Jamaica. Last August the son and I flen Air Canada to Toronto on our way to Egypt, so I guess that's cool, but they have a lot of gates on the south part of the A concourse (A12 - A20) that seem ripe for more use.

I would love to see flights to Cozumel, Roatan and the ABC islands added to international destinations. Until then, I have to fly through other hubs.

It's all good, I'll survive and the extra hops help keep my status at a nice level.

Where's the after pic?

If a guy shits in the middle of an airport and doesn't take an after pic, does it even make a splash?

The bathrooms are the best airport bathrooms I’ve experienced by far. That neutral one especially is awesome. You get a full blown private toilet without any cracks or gaps and walls to the ceiling. Can’t beat it. Went from like 5 stalls post security to maybe close to a hundred. Very nice.

Did you do Egypt on your own or with tour guides? I've heard it's pretty extreme in terms of tourism bullshit and potentially one of those places where it's really worth getting local 'help' even if you're used to international bullshit.

It's a manic and crazy place (especially the driving). I loved it though. And yes, I'd recommend getting a "tour" guide. Otherwise it would probably seem a bit unhinged and more sketch to navigate.

We did a week on a liveaboard out of Hurghada, then a week on a different liveaboard out of Port Ghalib three hours to the south, so we only had three days of land time. Our only guides were the guides on the boats when we were diving. That said our guide went with us when I finished my son's Advanced Wreck Diving cert on the Thistlegorm (in the middle of the night to avoid other divers from other liveaboards F'ing up his line-laying); so it was a good trade IMO..

I love me some Egypt and Red Sea, but I'll pass on Egypt's land stuff, it's not my jam.