He's been working thru some trauma since November. Really limits your scope for quips and comebacks. It's been tough on a lot of folks.

We like the same music.

I am a huge fan of Motown, Alternative, and Classic Rock, in that order.

I've only heard one song by Foster the People but I liked it.

Torches son

That and it’s just harder to stay out late when you’re older. I go to a local show that starts at seven, I’m ready to go to bed after watching the first two bands if I didn’t have a nap earlier in the day.

I said it in this thread and you have to go back to 2023 to find the next instance.

Should I apply for permission to say something once every few years or how should I do this going forward?

What don't you like about saying we live in an incredible time of music and literally whatever you are into or want to hear is available to you and that is awesome.

This is the most old man thread of old man threads.

It's kind of like saying today's cars are mostly garbage. If you go to the Ford dealership, you aren't going to find a Porsche, you're gonna get a Ford.

Stop shopping at dealerships. Find the music you want and seek it out. The Internet is a marvel of modern music.

I think I should add a clarification - The most POPULAR new stuff is garbage.

There is much greater talent that is unsigned, indie, up and coming etc.

I think casting something off just because its popular is sort of lazy as well...but yea that is basically a completely different argument then how you started the thread.

Good music is good music I feel like people lose the plot when they try to make silly factors like how popular it is carry a lot of weight.

I'd like to flip that in its head, though.

I don't think popular music is necessarily crap. But the stuff that IS popular is popular because it's crap.

Let's face it. We live in a lowest common denominator society. Consume, consume, consume. It makes sense to mass produce schlock.

Bingo. For example, country and pop are two sides of the same low-IQ coin. Trash gobbled up by the masses.

Perhaps people are just tired as **** about their lives and want something mindless to bop around to instead of having to actually pay attention

Dream Theater's time changes in the middle of songs (some songs have up to 5 separate time changes and that is nuts) are ridiculous and, IMO, Mike Portnoy is the best drummer in the world. That said, I don't want to listen to super technical music all the time.

Low IQ music is the background soundtrack for a massive amount of people. For some that is Billie Eilish and for others that is Morgan Wallen.

My suggestion for those hating on modern music is two fold.

(1) Jump on a music streaming service and queue up whatever you like to listen to.

(2) https://thebaffler.com/wp-content/up...EllisComic.png

I don't disagree with any of that, this is all subjective.

I listen to a lot of "low IQ" music. I love sludge, stoner, and doom music. Droning pedal tones, pentatonic riffs, the whole 9 yards.

The difference is they're playing through tube amps with analog effects for the most part. It's barely "produced" let alone polished.

Low IQ can be good. It doesn't have to be assembly line AI-generated junk.

While I am glad we all settled on the fact that everyone gets to enjoy the music they want have we figured out why I caught a stray in this thread for using a phrase twice in 2 years? :)

Forza video games have good soundtracks as well just YouTube Forza Horizon 5

Low IQ music LMAO

I'm not trying to learn to code on my drive to Home Depot. Its ****ing music not an online course

Her only redeeming quality, frankly.

Low-IQ

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High-IQ (12 ****ing time changes, in the most random places, in this song)

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Neither is going to teach you to code on your way to Home Depot.

I became a wedding dj about 6 years ago and ever since then I've taken the mindset of "if the music moves you in some way then who am i to judge that." Some low iq songs just kill on the dance floor. Whether or not its just to dance or admire for the complexity people love different things.

Except for the chicken dance. **** anyone who likes that.

x1000

Todays music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll

Sierra Ferrell:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8e9nbsq-18


Billy Strings:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6CyQftidOw


Stephen Wilson Jr:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxO78msA02E&t=1s


The Red Clay Strays:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhcMmaUPtrk

It's a shame today's music isn't all Garbage...........as I've had a thing for Shirley Manson for quite some time!! ;)

Watched this on a suggestion from a buddy on a guitar forum. I didn't have a lot of hope for it but wound up watching the whole thing. I have searched more of their music and fo<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/v6q9grSa-vY?si=EJQBj4Ohg0nMaVQt" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>und it ok can't complain.

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I don’t know if this got any replies and due to the server issues, I’m not going to look.

She sang an old Freddie Fender song and got on a team. I’m not clear on how these shows work but they aren’t real time. I know this because she’s been playing local shows 4 nights a week since her first appearance, which means she’s not working with her “coach” right now.

Anyway, I just read that the kid (she’s 19) is on again tonight in whatever the hell the “battle round” is, so I’ll probably watch out of curiosity. I know her from brief chats of encouragement a couple of years ago when she played outdoors at a small daiquiri shop downtown on weekends and she’s a sweet kid, so it’s interesting to follow. The Voice, 7pm central.

I don't watch the show but I subscribe to the Youtube channel. I saw that and sent it to my brother. I liked it and knew he would too. We were living in Texas in the early-to-mid 70's. Looks like she got the 'save' and is staying on the show for a bit, as the show is playing out rather than in real time.

rock isn't dead YET!
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I admittedly have listened to very little new music in the last two decades. I like the stuff I liked from age 12 to about 25, which for me is early 90's to early 2000s. My buddy who has similar taste in music is always playing me new stuff I've never heard and it pretty much never gets me that excited. That being said....he played me this yesterday from some band I've never heard of (Sleep Token) and I gotta say I'm intrigued. Very unique and kind of genre shifting all throughout the song. I understand they're kind of considered metal but not really. And I kinda dig the theatrical storyline/anonymity and mythology stuff in the little I've read about them since yesterday. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/JJpFTUP6fIo?si=lmgn3dteEM9FCfF5" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sleep Token is Imagine Dragons with down tuned guitars imo.

I think there is actually an argument that todays music SHOULD be better than music at least the 3 or 4 decades before it. From 1980 to 2009 music was mainly mass produced by people in suits and there wasn't alot of grassroot movements. It was made by corporations and record labels masquerading as unique and creative from the people. Now almost all music is found on social media first and is liked by the people before it is massively popular.

Ha!! My 8 year old son loves Imagine Dragons. I’ve listened to a few other ST tracks since I posted and it’s ok. It kinda gives me an Deftones vibe tbh. Again, my musical taste just never evolved past the age of about 23-25. I’m a hard rock/metal fan but just stopped listening to the radio after college and never had a desire to seek out new bands to like. And the rap I like is DEFINITELY 90’s and early 00’s. That mumble rap shit is awful to me and whatever is popular now I probably just don’t know about.

Gotta tune it down. Both of my guitars are tuned to C standard. And then I play through a fuzz and a wah. Brutal.

Down tuning just makes everything heavier. I remember the first time I heard Black Sabbath tuned to E flat or Soundgarden in D.

The problem now is that extreme metal has embraced more strings, most notably an additional B string below E. So everybody is playing in B standard but not down tuning so to speak.

how is it i am just now finding out about 'manchester orchestra'?

these guys are awesome!

Sure, there was a lot of gate keeping by people in suits and mass produced music, especially on the pop side.

But there were some bands that made it just by playing in clubs and connecting with fans.

College radio was also a thing.

For instance, student DJ's in college radio stations was probably a key part of REM's success.

Ok, but I kinda love this...

The yeah, yeah, yeahs - Spitting off the Edge of the World from The Gourge

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