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rocknrolla 02-27-2025 03:09 PM

Loved "Behind enemy lines". Cheesy movie, but he was great!!

DJ's left nut 02-27-2025 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rocknrolla (Post 17981891)
Loved "Behind enemy lines". Cheesy movie, but he was great!!

The 'post-script' was just unnecessary and not believable at all.

I'm sorry, but they wouldn't have stripped Reigart of command. Truthfully, they probably would've never prohibited him from going after his pilot. That's just not how the military rolls.

Frazod 02-27-2025 03:55 PM

Hmm. Maybe he died and she was so bummed over it that she whacked herself and the dog. It's certainly not unheard of.

BEAVER 02-27-2025 03:58 PM

Wonder if they were on the Epstein list with the dog.

rocknrolla 02-27-2025 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17981932)
The 'post-script' was just unnecessary and not believable at all.

I'm sorry, but they wouldn't have stripped Reigart of command. Truthfully, they probably would've never prohibited him from going after his pilot. That's just not how the military rolls.


Like I said its a cheesy movie. Hackman played it great though.

Pepe Silvia 02-27-2025 04:26 PM

That one Jennifer Love Hewitt movie where she was a complete 10 was hilarious with him, Heartbreakers I think, he had a red nose like Santa Clause during the whole movie. ROFL

Rain Man 02-27-2025 04:28 PM

I appreciate the addition of the comma to the thread title, but as a believer in the Oxford comma, I would prefer to see a second comma added after 'wife'. I can live without it in this particular instance, though, since I've already been in the thread.

Deberg_1990 02-27-2025 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17982014)
That one Jennifer Love Hewitt movie where she was a complete 10 was hilarious with him, Heartbreakers I think, he had a red nose like Santa Clause during the whole movie. ROFL

Forgot about his comedic roles. The Bird Cage is outstanding. And he was great in it. Basically played a George Bush type. 😆

ForeverChiefs58 02-27-2025 06:05 PM

If they were mummified from being dead for awhile, then who was taking care of other dog found alive?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to sources who investigated the scene both Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa were found partially-mummified. Investigators believe the two had been dead for quite sometime.<br><br>Maintenance workers discovered the bodies and say they hadn&#39;t seen either Hackman or… <a href="https://t.co/UeooAcOO3l">https://t.co/UeooAcOO3l</a> <a href="https://t.co/WvPQmV3IUa">pic.twitter.com/WvPQmV3IUa</a></p>&mdash; Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1895205487295283631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Deberg_1990 02-27-2025 06:10 PM

Strange that a guy that famous didn’t have people who would check in on him for weeks? Especially at his age.

AndChiefs 02-27-2025 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17982023)
I appreciate the addition of the comma to the thread title, but as a believer in the Oxford comma, I would prefer to see a second comma added after 'wife'. I can live without it in this particular instance, though, since I've already been in the thread.

It still bothers me.

Rain Man 02-27-2025 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 17982148)
If they were mummified from being dead for awhile, then who was taking care of other dog found alive?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to sources who investigated the scene both Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa were found partially-mummified. Investigators believe the two had been dead for quite sometime.<br><br>Maintenance workers discovered the bodies and say they hadn&#39;t seen either Hackman or… <a href="https://t.co/UeooAcOO3l">https://t.co/UeooAcOO3l</a> <a href="https://t.co/WvPQmV3IUa">pic.twitter.com/WvPQmV3IUa</a></p>&mdash; Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) <a href="https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1895205487295283631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Let's just say that it'll probably be a closed casket funeral.

Frazod 02-27-2025 07:10 PM

Yuck. I've smelled that smell before. It never really leaves you.

ptlyon 02-27-2025 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17982023)
I appreciate the addition of the comma to the thread title, but as a believer in the Oxford comma, I would prefer to see a second comma added after 'wife'. I can live without it in this particular instance, though, since I've already been in the thread.

I'm a Yale guy myself...

Dayze 02-27-2025 09:00 PM

Loved him in so many roles. Mississippi Burning was awesome. Such a great actor

Raiderhater 02-27-2025 09:14 PM

It’s a small role that most won’t think of but, when I think of Gene Hackman roles I always remember him as the Polish General Sosabowski in A Bridge Too Far.

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/74/28/7e/7...b5f9066acd.jpg

Bump 02-27-2025 10:10 PM

I was disgusted with what's his name Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luther, horrible performance.

Gene Hackman was the only valid Lex Luthor IMO he was awesome

EPodolak 02-27-2025 10:25 PM

Some of his best roles were during the second golden age of Hollywood, late 60s and 70s. Bonnie and Clyde, French Connection, and Night Moves are personal favorites.

Too bad about the weird circumstances surrounding his death.

Straight, No Chaser 02-27-2025 11:11 PM

Since this broke, I can't seem to stop thinking about the mystery of what happened with them... huge Gene Hackman admirer. After watching "The French Connection" I was mesmerized and thrilled by the film, the way it was photographed, the utter rawness of the characters and circumstance --basically like nothing I had seen before or since in the genre. I watched it again last year and realized I like films shot with film.

Anyway, I can't help playing detective here and Note: I have not been consuming social media:

So his wife is 32 years younger and he's ninety-effing five. Age don't matter much when you are young(er) but now... I think she was frustrated and poisoned Gene. Gene was found in the "mud room" on the floor with his cane and sunglasses. So, he went out for a morning walk like he probably always does and when he came back he collapsed on his way into the house. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a stroke or heart attack. Betsy poisoned him. As far as what happened to her, well she probably felt immense guilt and took the pills herself. I would think the autopsy could reveal who died first and I think it was Gene.

The 10 year old Shepard in the crate... terrible. I'm a dog owner, Shepard's... hard to imagine. What I can't figure out is why it was the landscapers who found them.. .He has three kids. Gee, if Dad was 95 wouldn't you be calling him, like weekly or even daily? WTF?

Nickhead 02-27-2025 11:44 PM

he either died of NC's or she mercy killed him.

then out of remorse/guilt took her life and the dog being caged, there was no one to let it out.

my two cents :D

RINGLEADER 02-28-2025 12:41 AM

From what I’ve read my guess is either:

1. They got in an argument she pushed him and he fell and died and she became despondent and took a bunch of pills and killed herself; or

2. He fell and died and she became despondent and killed herself; or

3. They ate something bad or there was a gas leak and they both died.

Regardless, the dog in the kennel died from lack of water/food.

Imon Yourside 02-28-2025 01:11 AM

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KC_Connection 02-28-2025 02:44 AM

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Deberg_1990 02-28-2025 06:43 AM

For my money, cinema doesn’t get much better than this. RIP Mr Hackman


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gene Hackman has passed away at 95<br>Gene going toe to toe with Denzel Washington in Crimson Tide (1995) is one of the most powerful scenes ever filmed. He was an absolute titan of cinema. We&#39;ve lost an icon today. <br>RIP Gene Hackman <a href="https://t.co/tmgMRl7YlL">pic.twitter.com/tmgMRl7YlL</a></p>&mdash; The Sting (@TheStingisBack) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheStingisBack/status/1895040185609420857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

kysirsoze 02-28-2025 08:08 AM

So many incredible performances , but one of my favorites is Royal Tennenbaum. Any other actor and that movie is probably too cute and quirky to work. He grounded the whole thing with his gruff, mischievous portrayal of Royal. Perfect example of why comedic acting should be taken as seriously as dramatic.

Garcia Bronco 02-28-2025 08:16 AM

I didn't realize the last movie he did was welcome to mooseport which is hilarious.

DCTwister 02-28-2025 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17982516)
For my money, cinema doesn’t get much better than this. RIP Mr Hackman


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gene Hackman has passed away at 95<br>Gene going toe to toe with Denzel Washington in Crimson Tide (1995) is one of the most powerful scenes ever filmed. He was an absolute titan of cinema. We&#39;ve lost an icon today. <br>RIP Gene Hackman <a href="https://t.co/tmgMRl7YlL">pic.twitter.com/tmgMRl7YlL</a></p>&mdash; The Sting (@TheStingisBack) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheStingisBack/status/1895040185609420857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Goddamn, I need to watch that movie asap. Probably only saw snippets of it over the years.

htismaqe 02-28-2025 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17982395)
I was disgusted with what's his name Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luther, horrible performance.

Gene Hackman was the only valid Lex Luthor IMO he was awesome

Maybe it's an age/timing thing but to me Superman is Christopher Reeve and Lex Luthor is Gene Hackman.

tk13 02-28-2025 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17982547)
I didn't realize the last movie he did was welcome to mooseport which is hilarious.

They tried to get him to come out of retirement to star in the movie Nebraska in the early 2010's but he wouldn't do it. Bruce Dern ended up getting an Oscar nomination for the role.

KC_Connection 02-28-2025 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17982541)
So many incredible performances , but one of my favorites is Royal Tennenbaum. Any other actor and that movie is probably too cute and quirky to work. He grounded the whole thing with his gruff, mischievous portrayal of Royal. Perfect example of why comedic acting should be taken as seriously as dramatic.

Apparently Wes Anderson tried for months to convince him to do the role and Hackman was reluctant to do so. Glad he eventually did because it wouldn't have worked without him.

rico 02-28-2025 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17982541)
So many incredible performances , but one of my favorites is Royal Tennenbaum. Any other actor and that movie is probably too cute and quirky to work. He grounded the whole thing with his gruff, mischievous portrayal of Royal. Perfect example of why comedic acting should be taken as seriously as dramatic.

Exactly what I think of when I think of Gene Hackman… “Because I finally want to meet my grandkids…” LMAO

Pepe Silvia 02-28-2025 02:31 PM

Fun Fact: Before James Caan accepted the role for Misery they wanted Gene Hackman first but he didn't want to lay in bed for a whole movie so he turned it down.

Johnny Vegas 02-28-2025 07:02 PM

Maybe too soon but if there was a movie about Hackman who plays him? John C Riley?

Bowser 02-28-2025 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17982964)
Maybe it's an age/timing thing but to me Superman is Christopher Reeve and Lex Luthor is Gene Hackman.

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(nice homage the Supergirl people did, there)

scho63 02-28-2025 07:35 PM

I cannot think of one role he was in that he didn't hit a homerun or deliver the movie.

Did he have any stinkers? I can't think of a single bad role or movie.

The Firm
Get Shorty
Royal Tenenbaums
Heartbreakers
Replacements
Mississippi Burning
The Quick and the Dead
The French Connection
Young Frankenstein

Just a small sample of great performances. So many more......

Frazod 02-28-2025 07:40 PM

Watching Unforgiven now.

Great movie, although it has always bothered me that Davey got lumped in with Quick Mike when he had nothing to do with slicing up the hooker, and actually tried to stop him. Had that been me, I would have loudly professed my innocence, but he never says a word. I don't get it.

Still, everything else about it is awesome.

kysirsoze 02-28-2025 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17983575)
I cannot think of one role he was in that he didn't hit a homerun or deliver the movie.

Did he have any stinkers? I can't think of a single bad role or movie.

The Firm
Get Shorty
Royal Tenenbaums
Heartbreakers
Replacements
Mississippi Burning
The Quick and the Dead
The French Connection
Young Frankenstein

Just a small sample of great performances. So many more......

I love that Hackman played tennis with Gene Wilder and asked him to talk to Mel Brooks about getting the hermit role in Young Frankenstein. He also ad libbed the espresso line.

rfaulk34 02-28-2025 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17982395)
I was disgusted with what's his name Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luther, horrible performance.

Gene Hackman was the only valid Lex Luthor IMO he was awesome

Hackman was great, but so was Michael Rosenbaum in Smallville.

siberian khatru 02-28-2025 10:17 PM

A reminder that Gene Hackman was the first choice to play Mike Brady in The Brady Bunch.

Rain Man 03-01-2025 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17983795)
A reminder that Gene Hackman was the first choice to play Mike Brady in The Brady Bunch.

This news would have been a heck of a series finale for The Brady Bunch.

siberian khatru 03-01-2025 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17983865)
This news would have been a heck of a series finale for The Brady Bunch.

Funny you say that, because Robert Reed, the actor who did get the role, was such a PITA to producer Sherwood Schwartz that they were going to kill off his character if the series had been renewed another season.

Red Dawg 03-01-2025 08:03 AM

Dead actor. Don't care.

TEX 03-01-2025 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17983579)
Watching Unforgiven now.

Great movie, although it has always bothered me that Davey got lumped in with Quick Mike when he had nothing to do with slicing up the hooker, and actually tried to stop him. Had that been me, I would have loudly professed my innocence, but he never says a word. I don't get it.

Still, everything else about it is awesome.

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." :D

Wallcrawler 03-01-2025 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17983918)
Dead actor. Don't care.

And yet, here you are.

Imagine having the ability to just scroll past a topic you don't care about.

You're probably one of those little assholes that needs attention so badly that you treat every place like an airport, announcing your departure when you leave.

Nobody cares, asshole. Just leave.

Dartgod 03-01-2025 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17983954)
Nobody cares, asshole. Just leave.

Oh, he's gone alright.

Kman34 03-01-2025 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 17983918)
Dead actor. Don't care.

And yet here you are , shit posting..

Rainbarrel 03-01-2025 09:38 AM

Not big on Will Ferrell but Gene played a good in Step Brothers

srvy 03-01-2025 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17981873)
Hackman never made a bad movie, so many iconic roles

Really hope they can get to the bottom of this, something doesn't smell right

RIP, Gene

I thought Behind Enemy Lines was pretty bad. Gene just mailed it in and that idiot Owen Wilson was miscast with Holywood trying to make star material out of zilch.

Deberg_1990 03-01-2025 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 17984042)
I thought Behind Enemy Lines was pretty bad. Gene just mailed it in and that idiot Owen Wilson was miscast with Holywood trying to make star material out of zilch.

Hackman was one those guys who always elevated the material even if the film was lesser.

But he didn’t make too many stinkers.

Wallcrawler 03-01-2025 12:50 PM

Jimmy McGinty and Little Bill two of my favorite roles he played.

Iowanian 03-01-2025 02:01 PM

If he wouldn’t have hurt Ned, William Muney out of Missouri would have let it go.

Deberg_1990 03-01-2025 02:02 PM

Forgot he was in Get Shorty too. Forgot about that one. But damn good movie with a lot of great actors.

Easy 6 03-01-2025 03:41 PM

One thing that doesn't make any sense, is that the handyman who originally called police said he was locked out of the house and could only see the bodies through a window... but when police arrived they found the front door ajar

Thats a major red flag

Rainbarrel 03-01-2025 04:08 PM

My understanding. There was another door in the house ajar. Two other dogs used it to get outside. The dead one was caged or confined

threebag 03-01-2025 05:55 PM

Advanced age is better than in a cage. RIP

Frazod 03-01-2025 05:56 PM

Now watching The Replacements. Man, I'd almost forgotten how funny it is.

Pepe Silvia 03-01-2025 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17984588)
Now watching The Replacements. Man, I'd almost forgotten how funny it is.

You don't like Chinese Food? Then GTFO.

Raiderhater 03-01-2025 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17984588)
Now watching The Replacements. Man, I'd almost forgotten how funny it is.

Yeah, I just stumbled across it on YTTV right after it started a little bit ago. When the OLineman pulls out his pistol and starts shooting the Porsche is freaking hilarious.

Bump 03-01-2025 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17984588)
Now watching The Replacements. Man, I'd almost forgotten how funny it is.

great movie

that one chick is really hot too

Deberg_1990 03-01-2025 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17984588)
Now watching The Replacements. Man, I'd almost forgotten how funny it is.

Yes sir! Never gets old!

Dartgod 03-01-2025 06:29 PM

I look like I just jacked off an elephant.

Frazod 03-01-2025 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump (Post 17984621)
great movie

that one chick is really hot too

God yes. I could name the women I've seen in my life who look better with short hair than long hair and have some fingers left over, but she's one of them.

Calcountry 03-01-2025 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 17981190)
Dang this is sad news.




Best Lex Luther ever.

MISS TASSMACHER!!!!

Garcia Bronco 03-01-2025 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17984274)
Forgot he was in Get Shorty too. Forgot about that one. But damn good movie with a lot of great actors.

His character is so good in that. He's just a f****** idiot.

Pepe Silvia 03-01-2025 08:48 PM

I had just got done watching the Gene f***ing Hackman scene on The Righteous Gemstones right before he died too, really creepy.

Garcia Bronco 03-01-2025 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17983579)
Watching Unforgiven now.

Great movie, although it has always bothered me that Davey got lumped in with Quick Mike when he had nothing to do with slicing up the hooker, and actually tried to stop him. Had that been me, I would have loudly professed my innocence, but he never says a word. I don't get it.

Still, everything else about it is awesome.

Davey held her from behind while she got cut.

GabyKeepsMeWarm 03-02-2025 04:15 AM

Gene Hackman.

Please forgive me if this post is long, verbose and nonsensical…

I worked in showbiz for most of my adult life. And I’ve run into many more celebrities, “important” people throughout the years.

But I never met Gene Hackman.

And this guy….

Well, he’s a Marine, so for you guys out there that a piece of his life that’s important.

He’s very midwestern, from Danville, IL.

He was roommates with Dustin Hoffman and Robert Duvall. There are a million stories. Those three? Seriously? It’s real. Duvall was the poon hound. Dusty always trying to get the rest, and poor Gene working as a doorman, or other odd jobs…

Look at Gene Hackman’s films…. 40 years of excellence, and sure, a few bad ones, but that’s how the bills get paid.

This massive genius of acting, taking all of us into different worlds…. God bless this man…

And the worst thing…. This man who did everything…. He retired. And he’s been retired for 20 years. And this awful crap about the circumstances about his death is now gonna be a sadly part of this man’s life. Goddammit. Retire, go to Santa Fe, live your life until you’re 95, and then you have this shit. Basically everything he didn’t want. Love ya Gene. Dusty loves you and his stories are awesome.

God bless.

The Rick 03-02-2025 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17982516)
For my money, cinema doesn’t get much better than this. RIP Mr Hackman


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gene Hackman has passed away at 95<br>Gene going toe to toe with Denzel Washington in Crimson Tide (1995) is one of the most powerful scenes ever filmed. He was an absolute titan of cinema. We&#39;ve lost an icon today. <br>RIP Gene Hackman <a href="https://t.co/tmgMRl7YlL">pic.twitter.com/tmgMRl7YlL</a></p>&mdash; The Sting (@TheStingisBack) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheStingisBack/status/1895040185609420857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Introduced this one to my 17 year old son last night. Been a while since I watched it. I forgot how good it was. He enjoyed it too.

RedRaider56 03-07-2025 03:38 PM

This just gets weirder and weirder

Betsy Arakawa, whose body was found on the floor of a bathroom in the couple’s home, likely died before her husband, said Dr. Heather Jarrell, chief medical investigator for the New Mexico Office of the Medical Investigator.

Arakawa was last observed alive on February 11, when she was captured on surveillance cameras visiting a local CVS pharmacy and dog food store before returning to her gated community, Santa Fe Sheriff Adam Mendoza said. February 11 is also the last day Arakawa had email communications.

Her husband, Gene Hackman, probably died on February 18, when his pacemaker last recorded his heartbeat, according to Jarrell.

“Based on the circumstances, it is reasonable to conclude that Ms. Arakawa passed away first,” Jarrell told reporters.

They are saying the wife died from hantavirus pulmonary syndrome that is caught from rodent droppings and urine?


https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/inv...-25/index.html

So she died and was dead for a week before he died. Did he not realize it due to his Alzheimer's? Or just not know what to do?

Weird

|Zach| 03-07-2025 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRaider56 (Post 17991332)
This just gets weirder and weirder

Betsy Arakawa, whose body was found on the floor of a bathroom in the couple’s home, likely died before her husband, said Dr. Heather Jarrell, chief medical investigator for the New Mexico Office of the Medical Investigator.

Arakawa was last observed alive on February 11, when she was captured on surveillance cameras visiting a local CVS pharmacy and dog food store before returning to her gated community, Santa Fe Sheriff Adam Mendoza said. February 11 is also the last day Arakawa had email communications.

Her husband, Gene Hackman, probably died on February 18, when his pacemaker last recorded his heartbeat, according to Jarrell.

“Based on the circumstances, it is reasonable to conclude that Ms. Arakawa passed away first,” Jarrell told reporters.

They are saying the wife died from hantavirus pulmonary syndrome that is caught from rodent droppings and urine?


https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/inv...-25/index.html

So she died and was dead for a week before he died. Did he not realize it due to his Alzheimer's? Or just not know what to do?

Weird

This makes a ton more sense IMO she was probably doing so much of his caretaking because he was not able and when she passed there was not much hope for him. Sad story.

RedRaider56 03-07-2025 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17991357)
This makes a ton more sense IMO she was probably doing so much of his caretaking because he was not able and when she passed there was not much hope for him. Sad story.

Sad indeed.

RunKC 03-07-2025 04:19 PM

They just revealed that Gene Hackman had Alzheimer’s, so it’s very possible that he didn’t remember who his wife even was when she was dead, or that she was there.

Really sad

kstater 03-07-2025 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17991357)
This makes a ton more sense IMO she was probably doing so much of his caretaking because he was not able and when she passed there was not much hope for him. Sad story.

Yeah, once they determined was not CO, I think it was a safe assumption she died and he was immobile to the point he didn't know.

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Rain Man 03-07-2025 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17991357)
This makes a ton more sense IMO she was probably doing so much of his caretaking because he was not able and when she passed there was not much hope for him. Sad story.

That seems weird to me. She was dead in the bathroom for a week and he didn't notice? Maybe if there's Alzheimer's I could see it, but I hadn't read that, and it would seem odd that she was still caring for him alone if it was that bad.

|Zach| 03-07-2025 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17991405)
That seems weird to me. She was dead in the bathroom for a week and he didn't notice? Maybe if there's Alzheimer's I could see it, but I hadn't read that, and it would seem odd that she was still caring for him alone if it was that bad.

I imagine the Alzheimer's plus the various challenges of being at his advanced age...in that condition he was probably in a pretty bad place without her. Lots of gaps and reasonable questions but this makes the most sense of anything since I learned it wasn't CO related.

Frazod 03-07-2025 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17991405)
That seems weird to me. She was dead in the bathroom for a week and he didn't notice? Maybe if there's Alzheimer's I could see it, but I hadn't read that, and it would seem odd that she was still caring for him alone if it was that bad.

That shit can reduce a person to the mental capacity of a baby. It's horrible.

Even so, wasting away without any care for a week until he finally died.... Jesus. I don't even want to think about it.

Easy 6 03-07-2025 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 17991405)
That seems weird to me. She was dead in the bathroom for a week and he didn't notice? Maybe if there's Alzheimer's I could see it, but I hadn't read that, and it would seem odd that she was still caring for him alone if it was that bad.

Yeah man this still doesn't smell quite right

Still hung up on the fact that the handymans original call said he was locked out, but the cops found the front door open on arrival

And now the official theory is that she died first, and he just wandered around the place for a week without ever having a single lucid moment with his supposed oldtimers, and noticing that his wife needed help?

Seems like a rush job to close it up quickly

Demonpenz 03-07-2025 06:18 PM

Bunk and McNulty trying to keep their closing rates up.

Shiver Me Timbers 03-07-2025 06:29 PM

Hackman used to own a historic building here in Golden. It is called the Armory. I saw him out walking around downtown a couple of times many many years ago. My oldest daughter had to convince me it was him the first time. He was taller than I had imagined. He ended up selling or giving the building to a non profit I think. With all the rough edges he showed in his work it seems like he was a decent guy in real life. I was bummed to see he had passed.


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