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Inspector 09-05-2007 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Coach
Why should it be a defensive team? What about having the whole team as one? If the offense can't do anything, the defense/special teams needs to pick it up for the offense.

If the defense can't get it done, then the offense/special teams needs to pick it up for the defense.

Same thing applies to the special teams.

I'm tired of having to rely one side of the goddamn side, where it's much wiser to rely on all the f**king aspects of the f**king sides.

It's called "balance" and unfortunately, we haven't had that kind of balance since 1969.
Man, you should be a coach...

er...never mind...

Lonewolf Ed 09-05-2007 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz
He seriously needs to stop talking, 21 points is alot??? wtf
Of course it's a lot! That is SEVEN field goals!

Duck Dog 09-05-2007 07:51 AM
Geezus, we have a reerun for head coach. Pathetic.

Stewie 09-05-2007 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GOATSE
When we score seven points I’ll say we’re slow starting. If we score 21 points, I’ll say, ‘whoa, we scored a lot of points.’ 21 points is a lot, 30 points isn’t a football game. That’s Arena Football. We’re talking about real football.”

I didn't read this entire thread, so sorry if it's been said, but is Herm saying it's a forgone conclusion that we're only going to score 7 points in the first or second game? I think he should have said "If". Maybe I'm just picky.

Lzen 09-05-2007 08:11 AM
Aw jeez. How many years are on his contract? :( :shake:

bobbything 09-05-2007 08:13 AM
Wow. Simply, wow.

"Real" football? Maybe Herm and Carl are vying for the approval of the "real" football fans. You know, the people that buy season tickets.

bobbything 09-05-2007 08:24 AM
This from Herm's half-brother who coaches track:
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"A five-minute mile is fast. 4:30 isn't a race. That's NASCAR."

HonestChieffan 09-05-2007 08:40 AM
If we are confused, imagine being a player or assistant coach...

Extra Point 09-05-2007 08:45 AM
"You play to score more points than the other team. HELLLLOOOOOO!!!!"

Chief Chief 09-05-2007 08:50 AM
Read the first four sentences of Herm's statement. The offense hasn't scored any TDs yet this year. His point is that they haven't done/shown anything yet. Some of that is due to his "vanilla" play-calling. With Bowe & LJ getting more reps as the season progresses, and with more inventive/creative play-calling, we should see a much different side to this offense (we'd better!).

Rausch 09-05-2007 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins
Let's go from Super Bowl XXIII-XLI

Teams with better O's than D's
San Fran X 3--Great offenses, solid D's
Dallas X3--Great Offenses, really good D's
Denver X2--Great Offenses, a workmanlike D
New England X2--and two really good offenses
Green Bay--Great offense, good defense
St. Louis--One of the best offenses in NFL history, opportunistic D
Indy--All time great O, poor defense
Washington--A great offense and a pretty damned good d

Teams with better D's than O's

New England, SB XXXVI
Baltimore, SB XXXV
Pittsburgh, SB XL
Giants, SB XXV



I'm not saying you don't need a good d to help you win, but people who think that defense wins championships are just clueless to the reality of the NFL.
You'd definitely have to add the Bears to that list. The Dolphins and Steelers were also defensive teams. The Bucs that trashed the Raiders were a defensive team.

I'd say that easily 1/2 the Super Bowl teams were stronger on defense than offense. It's about even.

The big difference is that a great defense can carry a horrible offense but it doesn't work the other way around. Horrible defenses don't win.

Zouk 09-05-2007 09:31 AM
By the way, if you watch the video rather than read the transcipt it is perfectly clear he was joking.

So basically this was 300 posts about nothing.

macdawg 09-05-2007 09:42 AM
21 points isn't really a lot, I'd say about average.

Here is my problem with the Chiefs. THEY PLAY TO THE LEVEL OF THEIR OPPONENTS!

Trying to keep the game close? What about just trying to kick their ass? Were glad to let turd teams hang around like browns & texans and try and win it in the 4th?

weak

crazycoffey 09-05-2007 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBull
So what if houston scores 30 on us?

And say the Chiefs score, 21?

Then I'll be screwed for betting the under....

RedThat 09-05-2007 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch
You'd definitely have to add the Bears to that list. The Dolphins and Steelers were also defensive teams. The Bucs that trashed the Raiders were a defensive team.

I'd say that easily 1/2 the Super Bowl teams were stronger on defense than offense. It's about even.

The big difference is that a great defense can carry a horrible offense but it doesn't work the other way around. Horrible defenses don't win.
Well no doubt about it, having a great defense is a bigger advantage than having a great offense.

If you ask me, I'd take a great defense anytime over a great offense.

I think defense does get you to the big game, but, it's clearly proven proven that most of the teams that win superbowls had a solid team balance on both sides of the ball. Yeah certain teams may have been stronger on defense. But their offenses were never horrible either.

Yeah, you have the odd teams that win with dominant defenses and not so good offenses. But it's rare. The only teams that come to my mind are Baltimore(2000), Tampa(2002), Bears(1985).


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