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Mr. Laz 07-17-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7753235)
The reason you want your "quick feet" guy on the Left side is because you generally put your best pass rushers on that side. Well on the flip side, then you put your better run stuffer to line up against the Right Tackle.

I think this was truth 10 years ago but nowadays i don't think it applies nearly as much. Teams aren't nearly has 'right handed' as they used to be and the tightend position isn't the same anymore either. Although RDE tend to be quicker and more of pure pass rusher type and LDE tend to be bigger and have more power.

I think the biggest change would be switching your down hand and the direction you slide. That change is a concern and the Chiefs might not want to do it with Albert. Direction change is much more of a concern than Albert not having enough power. Power isn't Alberts problem, it's dealing with quickness for whatever reason(technique,focus whatever etc)

chiefzilla1501 07-17-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7753257)
I think this was truth 10 years ago but nowadays i don't think it applies nearly as much. Teams aren't nearly has 'right handed' as they used to be and the tightend position isn't the same anymore either. Although RDE tend to be quicker and more of pure pass rusher type and LDE tend to be bigger and have more power.

I think the biggest change would be switching your down hand and the direction you slide. That change is a concern and the Chiefs might not want to do it with Albert. Direction change is much more of a concern than Albert not having enough power. Power isn't Alberts problem, it's dealing with quickness for whatever reason(technique,focus whatever etc)

We'll see. I just think that the kind of power blocking he'd have to use is very different from LT and even different from LG. But you're right, the directional change is huge, especially given that even at Guard, he played on the Left Side.

I think most of his problems are due to technique. But he's making fewer and fewer every year. Of course that has to keep happening. I think we have to keep in mind that coming out of college as a Guard and playing his first season with virtually no technique, he's going to have a much steeper learning curve than most LTs. I still think we need to be patient with him as long as he continues to show improvement.

chiefzilla1501 07-17-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7753256)
I'd say that Albert was a "b" as a rookie, but has regressed to a "c" quality left tackle since.

Light is a solid "b" quality left tackle.

I really like what that move would do to our interior line for the long term.

Albert
Hudson
Asamoah

That's a terrific and extremely young interior line.

That's a bit of an exaggeration. Realize that it hasn't helped him much that his QB doesn't do very much to protect him.

First, you're talking purely about pass protection. In run blocking, he's improved from a C to about an A-. He just has to not necessarily improve in pass protection, but become more consistent.

And if you have a guy who has potential to play LT, you never put him at Guard. Stacking your interior line isn't worth it if you're weak on the Left side. And even worse when the reason you're making that move to LG is because you're putting in an old expensive stopgap like Light, who only has a little bit more to offer at the position than Albert (assuming Albert doesn't continue to improve, which I'm sure he will).

Mr. Laz 07-17-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7753287)
We'll see. I just think that the kind of power blocking he'd have to use is very different from LT and even different from LG. But you're right, the directional change is huge, especially given that even at Guard, he played on the Left Side.

I think most of his problems are due to technique. But he's making fewer and fewer every year. Of course that has to keep happening. I think we have to keep in mind that coming out of college as a Guard and playing his first season with virtually no technique, he's going to have a much steeper learning curve than most LTs. I still think we need to be patient with him as long as he continues to show improvement.

The big problem is that every so often Albert just whiffs almost completely and that makes for a nervous Quarterback and usually stops a drive. Just can't happen with regularity.

still think the power aspect of blocking at right tackle is being exaggerated big time.

aturnis 07-17-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7753256)
I'd say that Albert was a "b" as a rookie, but has regressed to a "c" quality left tackle since.

Light is a solid "b" quality left tackle.

I really like what that move would do to our interior line for the long term.

Albert
Hudson
Asamoah

That's a terrific and extremely young interior line.

I've actually been thinking about that interior line quite a bit lately. It would be a stellar nucleus to the line. Also, Richardson has always looked really good on the left side when asked to play there. Don't think that'd be an experiment worth trying though.

As for Albert's rookie season, you have to remember the offense itself hid a lot of Albert's deficiencies. The quarterback would almost always roll out to the right. Thigpen had wheels and used 'em.

Titty Meat 07-17-2011 11:45 PM

One of the more interesting things about this lockout will be the Chiefs will likely have about 3 days to re-sign free agents and get everything in order. What happens to Brian Waters? Pretty sure Asamoha will be the starter and theres no way Waters will accept being a backup.

keg in kc 07-17-2011 11:50 PM

Retirement I hope.

keg in kc 07-17-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7753368)
The big problem is that every so often Albert just whiffs almost completely and that makes for a nervous Quarterback and usually stops a drive. Just can't happen with regularity.

still think the power aspect of blocking at right tackle is being exaggerated big time.

I still contend the greatest issue for the line was not either tackle position; it was pressure coming right up the middle over/past/through Wiegmann.

aturnis 07-18-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7754641)
I still contend the greatest issue for the line was not either tackle position; it was pressure coming right up the middle over/past/through Wiegmann.

Yeah, probably would have helped to have a pocket to step up into.

FloridaMan88 07-18-2011 11:41 PM

Randy Moss would be an ideal free agency option for the Chiefs.

Moss is familiar with Cassel, is supposedly in great shape, will be motivated to revive his career next season and will probably be had for a managable contract.

Rookie WR's rarely make an impact, so let Baldwin learn under Moss and Bowe his rookie year.

Titty Meat 07-18-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7756511)
Randy Moss would be an ideal free agency option for the Chiefs.

Moss is familiar with Cassel, is supposedly in great shape, will be motivated to revive his career next season and will probably be had for a managable contract.

Rookie WR's rarely make an impact, so let Baldwin learn under Moss and Bowe his rookie year.

No he wouldn't.

Hammock Parties 07-19-2011 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7754567)
Also, Richardson has always looked really good on the left side when asked to play there.

He was awful in Seattle last year.

Skyy God 07-19-2011 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 7754629)
One of the more interesting things about this lockout will be the Chiefs will likely have about 3 days to re-sign free agents and get everything in order. What happens to Brian Waters? Pretty sure Asamoha will be the starter and theres no way Waters will accept being a backup.

Waters is under contract.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7756511)
Randy Moss would be an ideal free agency option for the Chiefs.

Moss is familiar with Cassel, is supposedly in great shape, will be motivated to revive his career next season and will probably be had for a managable contract.

Rookie WR's rarely make an impact, so let Baldwin learn under Moss and Bowe his rookie year.

Just stop.

Chris Meck 07-19-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 7754641)
I still contend the greatest issue for the line was not either tackle position; it was pressure coming right up the middle over/past/through Wiegmann.

This. People see the QB on his back or rushed and immediately blame the LT. If there's no pocket, you can't really expect the LT to have to defend both directions laterally for the whole play. He needs to be able to seal off the inside and ride the DE out and past the QB. In our case, a lot of the time, there was nowhere to ride the DE to.

Brock 07-19-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 7756511)
Randy Moss would

Shut it.


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