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DJ's left nut 04-11-2012 02:04 PM

Not the greatest managerial job by Matheny in that last inning, IMO.

He got way too hung up on the fact that Scrabble throws lefty and let it dictate his decisions. Scrabble can retire righties and can do so a hell of a lot better than Salas right now (who's elevating everything). The decision to walk Ludwick was stupid in its own right; Ludwick isn't going to do anything with that sinker from a lefty. Matheny just saw the platoon setup and decided to walk him. Then the decision to go get Salas was again based on nothing more than the L/R matchup.

He was too formulaic there. Had he given Scrabble the green light to just attack that inning, I'm fairly confident that he'd have gotten out of it. He threw a strike on 0-0 to Votto that the umpire called a ball despite giving it to Chapman all day. Then he got too much of the plate trying to figure out the strike zone. He still looked plenty filthy to Bruce and had more than enough stuff today to take care of Luddy and Heisey.

Bad managing; hopefully Mike learns from it.

Frazod 04-11-2012 02:10 PM

I think at this point last season that prick Franklin had already blown three or four saves.

raybec 4 04-11-2012 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8533645)
I think at this point last season that prick Franklin had already blown three or four saves.

Man I'm glad that turd is gone

BigRedChief 04-12-2012 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 8533564)
I'll take 5 out of 7 on the road any time

Especially against our two biggest divisional rivals.

veist 04-12-2012 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8533624)
Not the greatest managerial job by Matheny in that last inning, IMO.

He got way too hung up on the fact that Scrabble throws lefty and let it dictate his decisions. Scrabble can retire righties and can do so a hell of a lot better than Salas right now (who's elevating everything). The decision to walk Ludwick was stupid in its own right; Ludwick isn't going to do anything with that sinker from a lefty. Matheny just saw the platoon setup and decided to walk him. Then the decision to go get Salas was again based on nothing more than the L/R matchup.

He was too formulaic there. Had he given Scrabble the green light to just attack that inning, I'm fairly confident that he'd have gotten out of it. He threw a strike on 0-0 to Votto that the umpire called a ball despite giving it to Chapman all day. Then he got too much of the plate trying to figure out the strike zone. He still looked plenty filthy to Bruce and had more than enough stuff today to take care of Luddy and Heisey.

Bad managing; hopefully Mike learns from it.

Well and he got bit by waiting so long to give Freese and Beltran a rest to try and get them two days with Berk straining his calf. May not have been the most popular decision but why not sit one then and sit one in the home opener if you want to get them both 2 days. The Cubs are a trainwreck so its not like you should need them both to handle your business.

BigRedChief 04-12-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by veist (Post 8535520)
Well and he got bit by waiting so long to give Freese and Beltran a rest to try and get them two days with Berk straining his calf. May not have been the most popular decision but why not sit one then and sit one in the home opener if you want to get them both 2 days. The Cubs are a trainwreck so its not like you should need them both to handle your business.

Sitting a starting healthy player on opening day? :LOL: GTFO :banghead:

We have an issue with some players being a little long in the tooth. We need to keep them fresh and ready to roll in September. We also need to give the young guys an oppertnity to prove they belong or at least can be trade deadline bait.

veist 04-12-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8537279)
Sitting a starting healthy player on opening day? :LOL: GTFO :banghead:

We have an issue with some players being a little long in the tooth. We need to keep them fresh and ready to roll in September. We also need to give the young guys an oppertnity to prove they belong or at least can be trade deadline bait.

I'd rather sit one of them against an awful Cubs team in the home opener than both against a Reds team that thinks this is their window if my goal is to get him two rest days in a row. Nobody is going to remember that you sat someone in the home opener in September if you're cruising to a division title. I'd rather have better odds of winning both games than making sure everyone gets to play in the home opener.

whoman69 04-12-2012 05:51 PM

New look Cardinals clicking as they return home

ST. LOUIS (AP)
So far, the St. Louis Cardinals are doing just fine without Albert Pujols. And they don't seem to miss Tony La Russa, either.

The World Series champions are off to a nice start heading into Friday's home opener against the Chicago Cubs. During their impressive 5-2 start on the road under new manager Mike Matheny, the Cardinals have gotten plenty of clutch hitting and pitching.

They take it personally, too, when it's mentioned that there are no big names anymore.

''What do you mean?'' pitcher Adam Wainwright said with mock seriousness. ''We don't have Carlos Beltran and Matt Holliday and Lance Berkman? Lance Berkman is a Hall of Famer potentially, Matt Holliday should have won the MVP in `07 and he's a batting champion.''

Checking one website's top 10 power rankings prior to the season, the 6-7 right-hander took note that the Cardinals weren't on the list.

''It's hilarious. It doesn't matter who was on our team before and who wasn't, we're never favored and that's fine,'' Wainwright said. ''We seem to embrace that.''

Wainwright won 39 games in 2009-10 before missing last year with reconstructive elbow surgery. He leads a rotation that's been strong early without injured co-ace and postseason stud Chris Carpenter.

''What don't we have in names?'' Wainwright said. ''Maybe we don't have overhyped players.''

That could have been a knock at Pujols, perceived nationally as the player who made the team tick with all others relegated to second banana status.

''You can't replace a guy like Albert, 40 home runs in the middle of the lineup, the consistency,'' said Berkman, who's getting used to first base with Pujols gone. ''But we're not chopped liver. There's really no soft spot in the lineup, there's no breaks, and that leads to mistakes and that leads to big innings.''

The Cardinals lead the National League with a .301 average and their 12 home runs, 37 runs and .371 on-base percentage were the best in baseball through Wednesday's games. David Freese and Rafael Furcal are hitting above .400, Kyle Lohse is 2-0 with a 1.35 ERA and Jake Westbrook didn't allow an earned run in his first outing.

Wainwright will be pitching at home for the first time since Sept. 19, 2010, and working his second home opener. He started the season opener in 2009.

''I know when I arrive four hours before the game they're going to be out there tailgating, cooking hamburgers and having cold pops,'' Wainwright said. ''This whole town is excited about what we did last year and what we're going to do this year.''

Berkman could miss the weekend with a left calf strain that he said was much improved from a day earlier. Matheny said Matt Carpenter and Daniel Descalso would fill in at first base.

This will be the third opener for the Cardinals, after spoiling the first game at Marlins Park and then knocking off the Reds. Although the Marlins opener had a wow factor with women dressed as show girls and Muhammad Ali participating in the first pitch, Cardinals players believe nothing touches the St. Louis experience.

Players get a parade lap around the warning track on the backs of flatbed trucks before being delivered at home plate, and the team's six living Hall of Famers participate.

It's anticipated that La Russa, who retired after 16 seasons and two World Series titles in St. Louis, and former pitching coach Dave Duncan will participate in the ceremonial first pitch. The team's last four championship trophies will be displayed, along with representatives from each of the teams from 1967, 1982, 2006 and 2011.

For the first two games, the uniforms will feature gold letters and numbers.

''The fans are genuinely excited and you can feel it as a player,'' Berkman said. ''The history, the tradition, the Hall of Famers, that's what separates a Cardinal home opener from the rest of the league.''

As for the Cubs, well, they get to watch.

''You give everybody the respect they deserve,'' new manager Dale Sveum said. ''They're the best in the world right now. They're the best team in baseball. You're going to be out there, you're going to have to watch it, but you want other people out there watching you do it someday, too.''

The Cubs batted just .221 while losing five of their first six games at home in their worst start since they were 0-14 to begin 1997. They struck out 12 times Wednesday, before knocking out Brewers ace Zack Greinke in the fourth inning on Thursday.

Marlon Byrd enters the series in an 0-for-19 slump.

''It's so early in the year, we just have to keep our head up,'' catcher Geovany Soto said. ''There are a lot of games left, we just need to get in a good rhythm and keep playing ball.''

The Cubs have led in all but one of the games and lost a pair of 2-1 decisions.

''A lot of close games. That's a good thing,'' pitcher Ryan Dempster said.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/N...-home-89391694

Frazod 04-12-2012 06:09 PM

I'm not very happy about the start time (afternoon game), or the fact that since they're playing the ****ing Cubs, I'll get blacked out of the Cards broadcast and have to watch the World Series rings presented listening to the douche Cub announcers. **** yous all around to MLB and DirecTV. All the money I pay for Extra Innings, I should be able to get Cards announcers regardless of who they're playing. :#

seclark 04-12-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by veist (Post 8537309)
I'd rather sit one of them against an awful Cubs team in the home opener than both against a Reds team that thinks this is their window if my goal is to get him two rest days in a row. Nobody is going to remember that you sat someone in the home opener in September if you're cruising to a division title. I'd rather have better odds of winning both games than making sure everyone gets to play in the home opener.

**** the cubs...step on their throat as early as possible.
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Frazod 04-12-2012 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by seclark (Post 8537401)
**** the cubs...step on their throat as early as possible.
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They stomped the shit out of the Brewers today.

whoman69 04-12-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8537390)
I'm not very happy about the start time (afternoon game), or the fact that since they're playing the ****ing Cubs, I'll get blacked out of the Cards broadcast and have to watch the World Series rings presented listening to the douche Cub announcers. **** yous all around to MLB and DirecTV. All the money I pay for Extra Innings, I should be able to get Cards announcers regardless of who they're playing. :#

I always hated having the ESPN broadcasts blacked out even though I'm 270 miles from STL.

Frazod 04-13-2012 03:49 PM

Holy crap, we're getting beat like rented mules. Down 8-0 in the 3rd. :banghead:

BigRedChief 04-13-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 8539041)
Holy crap, we're getting beat like rented mules. Down 8-0 in the 3rd. :banghead:

It takes most pitchers 18 months to return to "normal" after the surgery. To expect Wainright to shave 1/3 of the recovery time off the rehabilitation time is unrealistic. Waino was all over the place. His breaking ball was up in the zone, the cutter was flat and the fastball lacked life. Even the Cubs and Royals can take advantage of a pitcher throwing like that at the MLD level.

Maybe its karma, we shit on the Marlins and Brewers opening days.... karma payback?

McWickedson 04-13-2012 04:21 PM

Waino's looking shitty so far. Sign Oswalt for goodness sake. Stop pussyfooting around.


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