Thats my point.

Sanchez, Gabbert, Locker, Ponder & Bradford were all taken in the Top 12.

Geno, Wilson, Bray & Barkley are just as good as them, if not better, which is why I'm not understanding why this class is getting shit on by everyone.

The Jets, Jags, Titans, Vikings & Rams didnt have a QB, so they took the best one available to them. They actually tried.

Doesn't look like its going to work out for most of them, but they tried and they'll try again until they get their guy.

We have yet to try. FOR 30 YEARS.

This argument is completely stupid because there isn't another player that demands the selection. If Megatron were in this draft, I would understand the push to select him. That would actually be a pretty interesting predicament.

But he's not. And the new CBA mitigates any risk involved in taking anyone, regardless of position.

I'd draft a QB at 1/1 and play him immediately. If he doesn't at least flash, I would have zero reservations about drafting another QB in the very next draft.

Ultimately, if you don't have a QB, you simply cannot win a SB in this league, and I'm tired of knowing that the season is lost before it even begins.

They're getting "shit on" because, at this point in time, none of those players listed deserved to be first rounders.

So what?

This franchise shouldn't draft a guy, just to draft a guy, and further waste the careers of guys like Hali, Charles, Bowe, Johnson, etc.

Dumb. I don't give a **** what the Talking Can says, it's ****ing DUMB to draft a QB that's unworthy of the #1 overall selection, just because it hasn't been done in 30 years.

DUMB, DUMB, DUMB, DUMB.

Joe Thomas was worth the #1 overall pick. That's what I'm talking about.

The Chiefs have the #1 overall pick. If it matters to people that the QBs aren't worth it at that position, it should matter just as much that the LTs aren't worth it.

As far as the Chiefs are concerned, Joeckel and your boy Lewan may as well be slapdicks. They're utter ****ing wastes of a pick.

You're right: Their franchise had been dead for the better part of the decade by that point.

Look, I'm not stating that Chiefs shouldn't take a QB with the #1 overall selection.

I'm saying that they shouldn't take a QB with the #1 overall selection, just to take a QB.

JFC, is that so difficult to understand?

Acquiring a QB through FA pretty much makes a certainty that you're wasting time. However, we don't know what the outcome will be if we draft a QB; the ceiling is exponentially higher.

Show me the alternative, dude. Show me the Megatron. Show me the Von Miller. Where is he?

The answer is HE'S NOT IN THIS DRAFT.

There ARE, however, some QBs that at least have a shot at turning this franchise around.

That's who you take. The guy who might save your franchise.

None of these pass rushers will save a franchise.

And it's also exponentially lower.

If you could have signed a guy that could lead you to playoffs, yet you drafted a piece of shit, you've further closed the window on your existing players.

Again, I'm good with however Andy Reid decides to move forward but if it's free agency or a trade back or a second rounder or even a first rounder in 2013, I'm not going shit myself.

And it seems like 75% of this forum will shit themselves if the selection is anyone other than Geno Smith.

It's not difficult to comprehend, but it's absolutely difficult to understand.

What is the ONE METHOD the Chiefs haven't used to acquire a QB in the last 20 years? And how many playoff games have they won in that span?

It's time for a different approach. We have the #1 pick in the draft. We likely won't EVER have this opportunity again.

Identify the best QB in this draft and take him. Period.

This is why I HATE discussing QB's before The Combines: People are ****ing irrational.

This shit is becoming just as annoying as the Stanzi lovers.

As far as I'm concerned........ Draft two QB's, get another in FA, bring in a vet QB and bring in another undrafted QB. Let the best one play.

My problem with trying to wait until the second is that you then have to be prepared to move up if QBs start coming off the board you believe someone else is targeting your guy.

I will flip my ****ing shit if we surrender next year's 1 or 2 to move back into the first to draft a guy we should have selected at 1/1.

I don't really care. All I know is that the Chiefs would be absolutely foolish to draft a QB, just to draft a QB. They've been doing that same thing with defensive lineman for ****ing years and it's gotten them absolutely nothing.

I'm not talking about QBs. I'm talking about every single non-QB in this draft.

I don't need the combine to tell you what a non-QB #1 overall pick looks like

I do believe we need to throw numbers at the situation, and we have the cap room to do everything you suggest above, including that vet. being a realistic option.