Because they had a superstar pass rusher in the middle of the defense as a force multiplier.

The Tyreek trade has rotted people's brains.

Didn't you know, Jones never had a post season sack until last year so we don't really need him. :p

Its not difficult, pay the man, figure out how to make it work salary cap wise and pay him. End of story. We certainly aren't paying the WR group or the RB group, or the CB group.

It's simple to say "just pay him," but there has to be a limit on that. He's looking to get more 5-6mm AAV more than the next highest paid guy.

The only reason this is even a potential level he could reach is because the Rams were stupid and insanely desperate with Aaron Donald in structuring his contract. CJ is pointing to that outlier and using it as some sort of baseline, and Veach would be an idiot to blindly validate that just because "we could" in theory make it work. That's not the way to sustainably run a team.

If he's dead set on that #, you trade him back in April, draft and move forward.

They're not a clear Super Bowl favorite. They're 100 percent still a contender because as long as they have Mahomes and Kelce and Reid.

Sure if you ignore that they are literally the SB favorite in Vegas at +600 right now with the next team being the Eagles at +750.

In what world do you have perfect foresight back then that this guy won't budge off that number and the Quennin Williams contract would come in at ~25mm AAV?

You're acting like Veach is a moron and somehow you've considered something he hadn't. Spoiler: that's not the case.

He's talking IF the Chiefs traded Jones.

He was saying they are not the favorite if Jones does not play.

CJ of Chiefs, if you don't sign by this weekend you can FORGET me ever logging onto wiziwig to watch you play!!!

Jones himself killed that market, probably intentionally, when he tweeted he'd only play in KC.

That was probably Veach's exact plan: get a Hill-like return and keep the roster churning. But Jones tanked it.

I do agree the Chiefs probably cave.

They're literally running Daniel Wise out there, and they have no cap space to sign a replacement.

Jones has almost all the leverage. The only move the Chiefs have is to hold out, play Turk or Daniel Wise at DT, and pray it doesn't collapse the season.

Veach/Mahomes/Reid are not in for that. They'll get the deal done, but it's going to cost them.

If he wants 30, Quennin Williams has nothing to do with it. His number didn't matter. There's no reason for him to budge off the number, similar to Tyreek last year. Once they knew the number, they pivoted.

It's the whole "deadlines spur action" thing in motion again and once again, here with are with our cock in our hand.

Nah. You take Jones off the current defense, they can't get the stops in the AFC the way it is right now to make it thru the gauntlet.

Are you at TC spectating & if so; Is X-Factor present and also are you going to eat lunch there? if yes; can you give us a brief paragraph or two reviewing your lunch, provided they have a snack bar or some eating arrangement for the guests...?