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Prison Bitch 07-17-2016 02:07 PM

Dayton had an awful offseason. As bad as last year was good. He's why we suck this year, not Moose getting hurt

mr. tegu 07-17-2016 02:07 PM

I don't even mind not making the playoffs, especially with the injuries, but to be losing games because of what is supposed to our strength (the bullpen) infuriates me and makes it hard to swallow, especially with Soria who didn't look like a good signing when it happened, and it looks even worst now.

Anyong Bluth 07-17-2016 02:30 PM

I was really surprised when they brought back Soria, and thought it was a terrible idea especially for the money.

Anyong Bluth 07-17-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12319838)
Dayton had an awful offseason. As bad as last year was good. He's why we suck this year, not Moose getting hurt

No.

It's a culmination of slumps, injuries, and the rest. I'd put the offseason moves probably 3rd at the highest.

BigCatDaddy 07-17-2016 02:44 PM

Swapping a healthy Holland for Soria was a huge downgrade to years past. The Kennedy move was just fine.

Prison Bitch 07-17-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 12319868)
No.

It's a culmination of slumps, injuries, and the rest. I'd put the offseason moves probably 3rd at the highest.

Excuse you, but the answer is a clear Yes.


He set fire to $50 million this year alone signing Kennedy (0.5 WAR), Gordon (0.2), Soria (0.1), Wang (0.1), Gee (-0.1), and Chris Young (-1.5). They're worse than replacement level. Daytpn is why we suck this year.

BigCatDaddy 07-17-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12319937)
Excuse you, but the answer is a clear Yes.


He set fire to $50 million this year alone signing Kennedy (0.5 WAR), Gordon (0.2), Soria (0.1), Wang (0.1), Gee (-0.1), and Chris Young (-1.5). They're worse than replacement level. Daytpn is why we suck this year.

Did we expect nuch for the 3 million we gave Wang and Gee?
Young and Soria were shit signings.
Kennedy has been fine
Gordon needs to be better.and might be turning the corner.

Prison Bitch 07-17-2016 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12319956)
Did we expect nuch for the 3 million we gave Wang and Gee?
Young and Soria were shit signings.
Kennedy has been fine
Gordon needs to be better.and might be turning the corner.

Ok then, he burnt $47M to buy negative WAR

Great Expectations 07-17-2016 05:05 PM

The money spent on Kennedy, Soria, Gordon, and Young could've been used to resign Cueto and extend Moose and Hosmer.

If you remove those 4 we probably have a better record, add in Cueto and we are close to the top of the division and aren't nearly as concerned about the wild card.

tk13 07-17-2016 05:14 PM

I'm not sure Cueto pitched well enough in the American League to justify paying him that much money though. I'm not sure how well that would've gone over. I think he was huge in the World Series but some of his antics, saying Salvy held his glove too high, etc... didn't go over well.

DaneMcCloud 07-17-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12320170)
The money spent on Kennedy, Soria, Gordon, and Young could've been used to resign Cueto and extend Moose and Hosmer.

If you remove those 4 we probably have a better record, add in Cueto and we are close to the top of the division and aren't nearly as concerned about the wild card.

Cueto is NOT an AL pitcher.

**** him.

Hosmer's getting a minimum of $25 million per on the open market. There's no way the Royals could have resigned Cueto and extended Hosmer & Moustakas.

That's silly talk.

Great Expectations 07-17-2016 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12320204)
Cueto is NOT an AL pitcher.

**** him.

Hosmer's getting a minimum of $25 million per on the open market. There's no way the Royals could have resigned Cueto and extended Hosmer & Moustakas.

That's silly talk.

How Silly is Kennedy getting $24M over two years, Soria $25M over three, young 12 over two and Gordon $72M over four. Hosmer is Getting $8M this year and probably $11M in arbitration next year. That's about $53M a year, Cueto is getting $20M a year...........


Resume your silly talk about how losing Finnegan and Lamb are costing us wins.....

BigCatDaddy 07-17-2016 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 12320226)
How Silly is Kennedy getting $24M over two years, Soria $25M over three, young 12 over two and Gordon $72M over four. Hosmer is Getting $8M this year and probably $11M in arbitration next year. That's about $53M a year, Cueto is getting $20M a year...........


Resume your silly talk about how losing Finnegan and Lamb are costing us wins.....

Are you complaining about 12 mill for a pitcher with a 3.8 ERA and 1.1 WHIP? I think you should see.how much avg pitchers get these days in the FA market.

Sure-Oz 07-17-2016 05:49 PM

@Buster_ESPN: Oakland's asking price for the Red Sox for Rich Hill was the same as San Diego's for Drew Pomeranz: Anderson Espinoza.

big nasty kcnut 07-17-2016 05:51 PM

holland not healthy still recovering from tommy john. Also soria must be dfa this is not a good look bring back pounder. Also must trade for a fifth pitcher and that it i trust our hitters we have now.


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