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saphojunkie 04-23-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9617076)
He only gave up one sack all year.

If he's not top ten, he's damn close.


He has been highly effective the last two years and wants market value and to be allowed to continue to play the position he has played for us the last 5 years.

I can't see how they think the team is improved by replacing Albert (who is entering his prime) with a rookie that is coming from a spread offense and only getting a late second for our own
top ten left tackle.

Branden Albert is good, but pointing to him giving up one sack last year as some kind of virtuoso performance is just stupid.

First of all, Branden Albert didn't even play a full ****ing season.

Second of all, the Chiefs attempted 475 passes last season, the fourth fewest in the league. Philadelphia attempted 618, good for 7th most.

Now, 143 more passes doesn't seem like much, but the Chiefs also spent most of those attempts on short yardage, horseshit, "in name only" passes, which is why they averaged 6.2 ypa in the passing game, good for THIRD WORST IN THE LEAGUE.

So, the Chiefs threw less than 90% of the league and when they DID pass the ball, it was to get rid of it on short patterns that didn't require a deep drop.

AND branden albert didn't even play the full season.

So quit saying that he's top ten in pass protection based on last year, because you sound like an idiot.

The point is not that Branden Albert is a probowler. He isn't. He is good enough, though. Or, rather, he has been good enough for what we have done in the past on offense. Maybe he isn't going to fit what we will do on offense in the future, though?

I think he would be. But people are going around treating the guy like he's God's gift to blindside protection, and that' simply inaccurate. Shit, the Chiefs' offensive line gave up 40 sacks in 475 passing attempts last year. The Lions gave up 29 sacks in 740 pass attempts. THAT is elite.

No one on this offensive line - NO ONE - is irreplaceable.

Once again, for the record, I think we should extend albert and draft Geno. But this argument that Albert is super duper duper has gotten out of hand.

patteeu 04-23-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 9617106)
idiotic.

Sometimes ideas seem better when you're high than they do when you sober up. Same with twinkies.

ct 04-23-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 9616933)
Yeah I think some should just go ahead and jump.

feel free :)

Hammock Parties 04-23-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9617147)
So quit saying that he's top ten in pass protection based on last year, because you sound like an idiot.

Do you think it's just coincidence that two years in a row, his pass blocking efficiency rating is identical to Duane Brown's?

Or should you just shut up and remove your head from Dorsey's bunghole?

Sorter 04-23-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9617174)
Sometimes ideas seem better when you're high than they do when you sober up. Same with twinkies.

Absolutely detest those things. Same with Ho-Hos(sp?). Nearly vomit inducing, they are.

keg in kc 04-23-2013 01:32 PM

What about those little chocolate cup cakes with the iced filling?

ChiefRocka 04-23-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9617287)
Absolutely detest those things. Same with Ho-Hos(sp?). Nearly vomit inducing, they are.

nutty bars?

Sorter 04-23-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 9617297)
nutty bars?

Never seen/heard of them. Are they like Babe Ruths?

Because those are tasty

Sorter 04-23-2013 01:40 PM

Never mind. Those things are delicious.

-King- 04-23-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 9617147)
Branden Albert is good, but pointing to him giving up one sack last year as some kind of virtuoso performance is just stupid.

First of all, Branden Albert didn't even play a full ****ing season.

Second of all, the Chiefs attempted 475 passes last season, the fourth fewest in the league. Philadelphia attempted 618, good for 7th most.

Now, 143 more passes doesn't seem like much, but the Chiefs also spent most of those attempts on short yardage, horseshit, "in name only" passes, which is why they averaged 6.2 ypa in the passing game, good for THIRD WORST IN THE LEAGUE.

So, the Chiefs threw less than 90% of the league and when they DID pass the ball, it was to get rid of it on short patterns that didn't require a deep drop.

AND branden albert didn't even play the full season.

So quit saying that he's top ten in pass protection based on last year, because you sound like an idiot.

The point is not that Branden Albert is a probowler. He isn't. He is good enough, though. Or, rather, he has been good enough for what we have done in the past on offense. Maybe he isn't going to fit what we will do on offense in the future, though?

I think he would be. But people are going around treating the guy like he's God's gift to blindside protection, and that' simply inaccurate. Shit, the Chiefs' offensive line gave up 40 sacks in 475 passing attempts last year. The Lions gave up 29 sacks in 740 pass attempts. THAT is elite.

No one on this offensive line - NO ONE - is irreplaceable.

Once again, for the record, I think we should extend albert and draft Geno. But this argument that Albert is super duper duper has gotten out of hand.

You do realize that even if you extrapolate for the whole season AND give the Chiefs 700 pass attempts, Albert still allows less than 2 sacks right?

Hammock Parties 04-23-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9617325)
You do realize that even if you extrapolate for the whole season AND give the Chiefs 700 pass attempts, Albert still allows less than 2 sacks right?

It doesn't matter.

This whole thing is dumb as hell.

People are sucking off Duane Brown and insisting Albert isn't worth the same amount of money.

Meanwhile the Texans ran the ball MORE than the Chiefs last season.

And in 2011, the same was true, AND the Chiefs had more passing attempts than the Texans.

patteeu 04-23-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9617287)
Absolutely detest those things. Same with Ho-Hos(sp?). Nearly vomit inducing, they are.

I bet Bump can eat a box of them at a sitting.

Mother****erJones 04-23-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception (Post 9617287)
Absolutely detest those things. Same with Ho-Hos(sp?). Nearly vomit inducing, they are.

I don't like those neither. :)

Mother****erJones 04-23-2013 01:57 PM

Nutty Bars FTW!!

Mother****erJones 04-23-2013 01:57 PM

The thing that sucks is, we can win a Super Bowl with Albert IMO.


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