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Rivers4MVP 12-11-2010 09:16 PM

Yeah Rivers isn't, but I have this name on the Chargers MB and im keeping it here

Reaper16 12-11-2010 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivers4MVP (Post 7247840)
hey, i ain't trolling. I'm a Padres fan...sadly

We've got a Chargers/Pads fan that is a beloved member on this board. We're not opposed to enemy fans being members here. Your post was a trolling sort of post though. This thread is a repository for Royals news/discussion. Something as insubstantial as Go Pads! in this sort of thread seems like blatant trolling.

Rivers4MVP 12-11-2010 09:21 PM

Well the Padres=Royals, payroll issues, bottom-feeders, so I found it quite relevant.

Sure-Oz 12-11-2010 09:23 PM

I don't care to get Just Snyder and Drabek for Greinke...hurry up and sign Lee.

I wonder how well Roy Halladay would be if he pitched for the royals

KC_Connection 12-11-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7247882)
I wonder how well Roy Halladay would be if he pitched for the royals

2.20 ERA, 13 wins?

Pitchers can't overcome a team that doesn't score for them.

huskerdooz 12-11-2010 09:28 PM

I usually don't have much to say as evidenced by my low post count compared to the # of years I've been a member. I do like to read and laugh at all the Internet pissing matches that occur; however I have to add my 2 cents and with the state of the economy it will probably be the only I can spare.
I find your claims that Greinke's 2009 was the outlier and his 2010 was more the norm, as you remarked on more than one occasion. However you continue to insist that Snider's 2010 was just a little detour to greatness. You're just as much a blind homer as Royals fans. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I don't recall Greinke having too much difficulty with the almighty AL East, especially in 09.

Reaper16 12-11-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivers4MVP (Post 7247873)
Well the Padres=Royals, payroll issues, bottom-feeders, so I found it quite relevant.

For what it is worth, a post in this thread that simply read "Royals FTW!" -- apropos of nothing -- would be similarly worthless.

Rivers4MVP 12-11-2010 09:30 PM

True, I was just trying to rep the Friars

KC_Connection 12-11-2010 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by huskerdooz (Post 7247901)
I usually don't have much to say as evidenced by my low post count compared to the # of years I've been a member. I do like to read and laugh at all the Internet pissing matches that occur; however I have to add my 2 cents and with the state of the economy it will probably be the only I can spare.
I find your insistance that Greinke's 2009 was the outlier and his 2010 was more the norm, as you remarked on more than one occasion. However you continue to insist that Snider's 2010 was just a little detour to greatness. You're just as much a blind homer as Royals fans. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I don't recall Greinke having too much difficulty with the almighty AL East, especially in 09.

Greinke 2007 (122 IP): 2.5 WAR
Greinke 2008 (202.1 IP): 4.9 WAR
Greinke 2009 (229.1): 9.4 WAR
Greinke 2010 (220 IP): 5.2 WAR

There is no reason to believe that the 2009 season is much more than an outlier, and therefore no reason to value him much more than a 5 WAR pitcher, especially when he's moving to a difficult division.

And there are countless examples of pitching numbers going up as pitchers have moved into the AL East (or going down, in a move the other way, as Halladay showed in his year in the NL). It's inarguable that facing three of the top offenses in baseball in half of your starts (NYY, BOS, TAM) will have a detrimental effect on a pitcher's numbers.

KC_Connection 12-11-2010 09:38 PM

Oh, and what was wrong with Snider's 2010? He put up a .255/.304/.463 line in 82 games while being injured for half the year with a 1.5 WAR. It wasn't a detour at all. It was a pretty good season for a 22 year old outfielder.

DeezNutz 12-11-2010 09:40 PM

Ryan Braun's oWAR for the past four seasons:

5.0
3.5
6.7
4.3

I think it's pretty safe to say that Snider is not going to be a player of Braun's caliber. Not interested in this being a "key" piece to a Greinke trade.

KC_Connection 12-11-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7247935)
I think it's pretty safe to say that Snider is not going to be a player of Braun's caliber.

I don't think it's pretty safe to say anything authoritatively about a 22 year old in the major leagues with extreme power potential.

DeezNutz 12-11-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 7247938)
I don't think it's pretty safe to say anything authoritatively about a 22 year old in the major leagues with extreme power potential.

and a .300 OBP. Elite position players often hit the ground running.

KC_Connection 12-11-2010 09:43 PM

At Snider's age, Braun was still playing college baseball. But yeah, I guess we can write Snider off based on his .770 OPS season in the majors.

Rivers4MVP 12-11-2010 09:44 PM

I can't believe we got rid of Adrian :(


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