Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17097717)

I think I was one of the few guys who doesn't mind the pick and just thought he'd need time. But as DJ said it's the chemistry that looks off. His calling card was he beats you early, has good hands and good YAC. Basically Rice without the contested catch ability and a little more long speed. To this point we've really not seen any of that minus maybe the Chargers game.

Maybe it'll click but to be honest they used Rice almost exclusively in the slot against the Lions it looks like, and he looked far more the part, especially scrambling. Pretty soon he's going to need to, and will, take Moore's snaps there and I think then the writing is on the wall.

I know people hate digs at Veach, I get it, but we really need Rice to hit because MEH, Hardman and Moore right now isn't a great record.

Would love Moore to prove my initial thoughts right but there you go, probably a swing and a miss.

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17097721)

He's the last guy Mahomes wants to throw to. I absolutely believe the chemistry thing. I think his skiyle or skill set throws Mahomes off a little bit. He has a solid first step then plateaus almost instantly but can cut on a dime. You almost have to put your full focus on him to gauge him. Problem is Mahomes never looks at one guy for that long unless he's an elite player. So even when Moore wins Mahomes already looked him off.

Rice sparkles in the open field, it's special. It makes Mahomes want to get him the ball. Guys who can take a short pass a long way are a QB's best friend.

It doesn't help Skyy is a dork.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17097604)

The comp was Antonio Brown LMAO

At this point we might consider giving him a call, because his last season is better than anything Skyy might ever put together based on his current trajectory.

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17097717)

I think I was one of the few guys who doesn't mind the pick and just thought he'd need time. But as DJ said it's the chemistry that looks off. His calling card was he beats you early, has good hands and good YAC. Basically Rice without the contested catch ability and a little more long speed. To this point we've really not seen any of that minus maybe the Chargers game.

Maybe it'll click but to be honest they used Rice almost exclusively in the slot against the Lions it looks like, and he looked far more the part, especially scrambling. Pretty soon he's going to need to, and will, take Moore's snaps there and I think then the writing is on the wall.

I know people hate digs at Veach, I get it, but we really need Rice to hit because MEH, Hardman and Moore right now isn't a great record.

Would love Moore to prove my initial thoughts right but there you go, probably a swing and a miss.

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17097717)

I think I was one of the few guys who doesn't mind the pick and just thought he'd need time. But as DJ said it's the chemistry that looks off. His calling card was he beats you early, has good hands and good YAC. Basically Rice without the contested catch ability and a little more long speed. To this point we've really not seen any of that minus maybe the Chargers game.

Maybe it'll click but to be honest they used Rice almost exclusively in the slot against the Lions it looks like, and he looked far more the part, especially scrambling. Pretty soon he's going to need to, and will, take Moore's snaps there and I think then the writing is on the wall.

I know people hate digs at Veach, I get it, but we really need Rice to hit because MEH, Hardman and Moore right now isn't a great record.

Would love Moore to prove my initial thoughts right but there you go, probably a swing and a miss.

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17097721)

He's the last guy Mahomes wants to throw to. I absolutely believe the chemistry thing. I think his skiyle or skill set throws Mahomes off a little bit. He has a solid first step then plateaus almost instantly but can cut on a dime. You almost have to put your full focus on him to gauge him. Problem is Mahomes never looks at one guy for that long unless he's an elite player. So even when Moore wins Mahomes already looked him off.

Rice sparkles in the open field, it's special. It makes Mahomes want to get him the ball. Guys who can take a short pass a long way are a QB's best friend.

It doesn't help Skyy is a dork.

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17097738)

Gotta push back on this. People were only saying that because of where he went to school. One of the criticisms of the pick initially was "If he played in the MAC then he better damn well have the greatest numbers in the history of college football and he just doesn't have that" so people came back with, "Look at Antonio Brown and where he came from."

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17097958)

Moore's had two full training camps with Mahomes, as well as the entire season last year and the whole postseason run. If they don't connect and Mahomes isn't looking his way, what's the problem?

We don't know what goes on at the practice facility for sure. Does Moore not put in the work? Does he not have the sort of bought-in attitude that high performing organizations demand? Does he just not 'get it' at this point? Will we see progress at any point?

No one knows, but things are shaping up like it will be a season long competition for snaps, and laying eggs like he did on Thursday night is not going to stand for long.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17097604)

The comp was Antonio Brown LMAO

At this point we might consider giving him a call, because his last season is better than anything Skyy might ever put together based on his current trajectory.

Originally Posted by Razaele (Post 17097961)

Any time you point out that a guy's success was against inferior competition, someone rolls out "but did you know other people from small schools have succeeded before?"

Yeah, obviously, but those are the exceptions.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17097873)

Was he known for broken tackles? I don’t follow college ball.

If so, that is not a translatable skill for an undersized WR. The idea that a 5’10 190 lbs WR would consistently break tackles at the NFL level is absurd.