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Wisconsin_Chief 04-12-2023 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16899484)
All these scenarios we run through concerning Hopkins are assuming Veach/Reid are operating from a place of desperation regarding the WR position when in reality they aren’t.

The best guys in the business see Toney, Skyy, MVS and Ross daily in meetings and practices (not during this part of the year but you know what I mean) and seem to be comfortable without making a panic/desperation move to add OBJ or Hopkins. I love the confidence to move on from Juju and Mecole and not make any major moves to replace their roles in free agency.

Pure confidence move for Skyy/Toney.

This is where I'm at as well. We saw what MVS can be and he will only be better with a year under his belt in the system, and Skyy & Toney were both very high picks who are playmakers. This is what great organizations do; they groom young players and then let them play. If they both stay healthy they can be big time players. You also have Richie James in the mix and can always bring Watson back. Plus, there's still the draft.

Andy & Brett aren't panicking, so I sure as hell won't. I'd love to have D-Hop but we're already looking at fielding a better overall roster than we did last year while the Bills and Bengals both took small steps back. There is no reason whatsoever to doubt what these guys are doing anymore, so I won't.

JohnnyHammersticks 04-12-2023 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16899667)
...Andy & Brett aren't panicking, so I sure as hell won't...

/thread

Couch-Potato 04-12-2023 05:37 PM

Wasn't there reports earlier in the offseason that suggested for some reason that moving him after June 1st would make more sense?

Pitt Gorilla 04-12-2023 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16899484)
All these scenarios we run through concerning Hopkins are assuming Veach/Reid are operating from a place of desperation regarding the WR position when in reality they aren’t.

The best guys in the business see Toney, Skyy, MVS and Ross daily in meetings and practices (not during this part of the year but you know what I mean) and seem to be comfortable without making a panic/desperation move to add OBJ or Hopkins. I love the confidence to move on from Juju and Mecole and not make any major moves to replace their roles in free agency.

Pure confidence move for Skyy/Toney.

All of this.

FloridaMan88 04-14-2023 06:46 PM

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kevrunner 04-14-2023 08:58 PM

Florio and Simms were discussing Hopkins and after listening to them, it sounds like Dhop wants another big payday.

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Rainbarrel 04-14-2023 09:40 PM

When has changing teams not been about the money

Couch-Potato 04-15-2023 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kevrunner (Post 16902857)
Florio and Simms were discussing Hopkins and after listening to them, it sounds like Dhop wants another big payday.

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Sounds great! A full 10 picks in this years draft and we trade 1 of next year's picks for Hopkins after the draft. I'm in!

TRR 04-15-2023 09:56 AM

Would love to see this get done.

Could KC make another SB run with Toney/MVS as lead guys? Sure. But it would take a lot more consistency from MVS, a healthy season from Toney, and a big step year one to year two from Skyy to do it. You could certainly see the difference in KC’s offense when Juju and Hardman were both banged up. Still explosive at times, but not as consistent. And who doesn’t miss rolling into games with Hill, Watkins, Hardman to go along with Kelce?? Just felt a bit different…

A long rant to simply say I would love to see DHop finish out his career in KC.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-15-2023 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 16903106)
Would love to see this get done.

Could KC make another SB run with Toney/MVS as lead guys? Sure. But it would take a lot more consistency from MVS, a healthy season from Toney, and a big step year one to year two from Skyy to do it. You could certainly see the difference in KC’s offense when Juju and Hardman were both banged up. Still explosive at times, but not as consistent. And who doesn’t miss rolling into games with Hill, Watkins, Hardman to go along with Kelce?? Just felt a bit different…

A long rant to simply say I would love to see DHop finish out his career in KC.

This type of thinking is what narrows the window in the Mahomes era. Unless DeHop gets cut and wants to ring hunt on a reasonable deal, he won't be Chief. Veach is too smart for anything else...

Not trying to bust the idea that he wouldn't be amazing on the Chiefs, just not for the price he demands...

FloridaMan88 04-15-2023 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 16903106)
Would love to see this get done.

Could KC make another SB run with Toney/MVS as lead guys? Sure. But it would take a lot more consistency from MVS, a healthy season from Toney, and a big step year one to year two from Skyy to do it. You could certainly see the difference in KC’s offense when Juju and Hardman were both banged up. Still explosive at times, but not as consistent. And who doesn’t miss rolling into games with Hill, Watkins, Hardman to go along with Kelce?? Just felt a bit different…

A long rant to simply say I would love to see DHop finish out his career in KC.

Losing JuJu, Toney’s injury issues and the possibility that Kelce, who will be 34 in October, may not be able to maintain his elite level of play from last year are all reasons for why the Chiefs still need to make an aggressive move at WR.

Couch-Potato 04-15-2023 03:10 PM

I'd say between trading for Hopkins and picking Hyatt in the 1st round of the draft, there are no other moves the rest of the league fears our Chiefs will make more.

chiefzilla1501 04-15-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16903130)
This type of thinking is what narrows the window in the Mahomes era. Unless DeHop gets cut and wants to ring hunt on a reasonable deal, he won't be Chief. Veach is too smart for anything else...

Not trying to bust the idea that he wouldn't be amazing on the Chiefs, just not for the price he demands...

There's a very good chance we see a Kelce regression in a few years and I'm not as convinced as others Reid has more than a few years left coaching.

Load up for a run while the iron is hot. Agreed that doesn't mean we do something stupid. But we can’t sit and build for 5 years from now when our window right now is wide wide open

BossChief 04-15-2023 04:26 PM

The ONLY way I’m even entertaining a trade for Hopkins is if he will play on his current deal and Arizona restructures his contract by converting 15m of this years salary to a bonus so his cap hits for the next 2 years is only 20m.

I’d be willing to give them a third in that scenario…and it would benefit both teams and give DHop a fat check in his pocket.

If he wants a new deal for top dollar, nobody will give him that.

Nobody smart.

GloucesterChief 04-15-2023 05:07 PM

Buddha Baker wants out of the hell hole that is the Cards. Are we interested?


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