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Marcellus 12-05-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9183748)
Yeah, those owner guys, they're useless parts of the team... You can't be serious! If you mean they don't make tackles, well that's correct, but it's like your saying when a homeowner has a house custom-built, the homeowner has little to do with the end result. Sure there are plenty of people between the homeowner and the roofer, but to suggest the homeowner amounts to nothing seems a bit disingenuous at best. Now the way they make a difference in the team is different than the GM, HC or QB, but they sure as hell should make a difference.

So how mnay SB's do you have to win in what recent time period to be a "good" owner.

Your criteria, your opinion, what is it?

GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9183733)
JFC dude that's a stretch. How hard is it to understand Jimmy Johnson built that team and the evidence shows Jerry can't replicate Jimmy's success in the last 16 years? The evidence is right in front of you all you have to do is look at whats happened.

Do you think Kraft has more to do with NE success than BB?

I would say your logic is flawed but you have yet to ever post anything with any type of logic that I have ever read, usually its just a bunch of shit spewed out by your twisted opinion.

I've said he can't get out of his own way. As far as twisted logic, whatever! Is that all you've got? You can keep up the patty-cake love affair with the Hunts, I'm going to keep pressure on them to adopt something close to the "Kraft way." Perhaps the owner doesn't need to live in front of the camera, but he'll let the coaches and players know they will produce on the field or they will be off the team. And here's the part people forget, after that, somehow is suspect Kraft reminds them that if a SB is what they want more than anything else in the world (within reason), if they'll commit their heart body and soul to the coach and the process, he can almost guarantee they'll stand a good chance at winning that SB. That may not be a direct quote, it may not even need to be said at this point, but I think they're players know that all they have to is dedicate their life to the team and the goal, and they might reach the goal. I think the locker room takes over from there...

SAUTO 12-05-2012 08:31 PM

Dude...

What makes you think kraft is the one that the players do that for? Belichek is the one who cuts them if they don't give it their all. Not Kraft
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GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9183752)
You do realize that doesn't answer the question nor does it explain why Jerry is a better owner than Clark right?

As I said he hired Jimmy Johnson who built the team won the trophies and left. Jerry has done jack shit since.

Ummmm, Jerry has three of something that the the Hunt family hasn't had since 1969! That's the only answer that's needed.

But I still like how you selectively pick owners that are responsible for multiple SB wins and those who have those multiple wins, but had nothing to do with it. Talk about twisted. It's like the difference between 43 years and 16 years is like, nothing... OK...

We get it, you don't like Jerry, he's the devil to you!

wazu 12-05-2012 08:36 PM

I still believe Clark Hunt is a smart dude who will turn out to be a great owner. This opinion will take a very big "hit" if he keeps Pioli after this season, but for now it stands.

Chief_For_Life58 12-05-2012 08:36 PM

all u turds will be hatin' chunt once pioli resigns quinn to be our starter next year and drafts some tweedledick project qb to be 3rd string. dlineman with our first pick. chunt will be like Ya great job scott lemme get back to all the other businesses I dont give 100% effort to

GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9183754)
So how mnay SB's do you have to win in what recent time period to be a "good" owner.

Your criteria, your opinion, what is it?

Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...

GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9183792)
Dude...

What makes you think kraft is the one that the players do that for? Belichek is the one who cuts them if they don't give it their all. Not Kraft
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God you're dumb!

GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 9183799)
I still believe Clark Hunt is a smart dude who will turn out to be a great owner. This opinion will take a very big "hit" if he keeps Pioli after this season, but for now it stands.

I hope you're right.. He needs to cram before this final exam.. Not to worry, Daddy built a wing on the facility so he's good, he'll pass...

Easy 6 12-05-2012 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9183623)
People are jealous of anyone born into wealth, so they want to say they didn't "earn" their $ so they have to be dumb and lazy because they didn't work for it.

**** I would love to have been born into wealth but I am not going to judge a guy who appears to have done nothing but work his whole life.

If Clark had wanted to he could be doing jack and shit, instead he works for a living. His involvement at the front of the CBA negotiations wasn't mandatory. If the other owners thought he was dumb I doubt they would have been too keen on that.

31 billionaires > in knowledge than CP or a NYP sports writer.

this, This, THIS

He doesnt HAVE to do jack, he could've sold the team to some joke owner and spent his life snorting coke off the finest women in the worlds asses, soaking up the Riviera sun year round on his mega-yacht.

But he didnt, he chose to work like a man, he chose to do his best for our downtrodden team.

Hammock Parties 12-05-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9183835)
this, This, THIS

He doesnt HAVE to do jack, he could've sold the team to some joke owner and spent his life snorting coke off the finest women in the worlds asses, soaking up the Riviera sun year round on his mega-yacht.

But he didnt, he chose to work like a man, he chose to do his best for our downtrodden team.

This.

And he's gonna get rid of the Patriotards, no doubt in my mind.

And then everyone here needs to get on their knees.

GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9183835)
this, This, THIS

He doesnt HAVE to do jack, he could've sold the team to some joke owner and spent his life snorting coke off the finest women in the worlds asses, soaking up the Riviera sun year round on his mega-yacht.

But he didnt, he chose to work like a man, he chose to do his best for our downtrodden team.

Well, if I had a golden egg that shit $30M every year NO MATTER WHAT, I'm not so sure I wouldn't keep it around just in case my other ventures didn't work out so well. I'm sure if you offer him $1B clean, you might find him interested in taking you to dinner...

I guess I'm admitting he's not not so dumb as to give up the golden goose...

milkman 12-05-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9183814)
Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...

Scott Pioli wasn't the GM of the Patriots, you dumb****.

ChiefsCountry 12-05-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 9183814)
Looking at the math... In a league of 32 teams, each with 16 teams, I'd say you should be competing for the trophy once every 16 years or so.

So why do you think Kraft is so successful? He just got lucky with a HC? I'll admit he did, but it might not have just been luck, let's not forget that many people questioned that at the time. He hired a competent HC and gave him more control over final decisions than the GM (Pioli!).. Maybe he just got lucky, maybe he's just plain smart, maybe both...

Kraft got lucky as shit with Tom Brady. End of the story.

GloryDayz 12-05-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9183839)
This.

And he's gonna get rid of the Patriotards, no doubt in my mind.

And then everyone here needs to get on their knees.

I hope you're right...


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