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OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2008 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4656110)
Tank and Turk represent hope, at least. Our O-line does not even have that luxury.

Why is that?

Because they weren't drafted early?

Niswanger and Taylor COULD turn into Pro Bowlers. Or, they could be duds.

We won't know until we play them.

Frankie 03-29-2008 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4655797)
In the top ten that makes it a reach, like I said this isn't the 5th round a couple spots is a really big deal in the top 10, even more so in the top 5.
Agreed. I should have been more specific in my post.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2008 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 4656099)
That is complete bullshit. Since when has Jared taken plays off?
Did you not notice him disappearing in the second half of games this past year?

Frankie 03-29-2008 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4655863)
I guess reading comprehension is not one of your strong points.
Translation: I can't shoot down your reasoning, so I'll shoot you.:rolleyes:

Frankie 03-29-2008 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4655900)
I'm giving him all of next year. What more do you want?
You weren't before. But at least you are agreeing with me there now. Congrats. If we want to give him all of next year, then I'm sure you also agree we need to put him behind a REASONABLY DECENT O-LINE!!

Frankie 03-29-2008 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4655943)
So we can only upgrade our line by using early picks?

What if we drafted Eric Young in the 4th, John Sullivan in the 5th, and Chad Rinehart with our other 5th?

We've just rebuilt the entire right side of our line.
That's pushing it when it comes to being realistic.

Frankie 03-29-2008 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 4655996)
You're probably right. Rookie Lineman can take some time to develop. I think that's another reason to start putting the peices together now, so we can be competitive in a few years.
Less development time for higher rated linemen, short of rare exceptions.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2008 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4656132)
That's pushing it when it comes to being realistic.
Kinda like Long falling to the Chiefs, or taking Clady at 5?

milkman 03-29-2008 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4656128)
Translation: I can't shoot down your reasoning, so I'll shoot you.:rolleyes:
No.

I'm shooting you down because no one is saying that the rookie with a great year is a fluke, and the subpar years for others are total trash.

They are simply saying that guys like Bowe have to do it for more than one year before you label him a star, and Hali needs to step it up another level, as does Pollard.

As for Croyle, there are those who never believed he would amount to anything, and those that have high hopes for him.

The opportunity he had last year hasn't really changed anyone's stance.

Frankie 03-29-2008 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 4656111)
OMG, so you would pass on an all-world stud at another position for an above average player because of need? That might be the most dense comment I've read this year concerning the upcoming draft outside of findthedr's tripe.
It only sounds "dense" to you because somehow you are taking the total opposite meaning of my post. I can't help you there.

Frankie 03-29-2008 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4656114)
Dear God, Frankie.

Every single one of those players produced from DAY ONE, with the exception of Rivers. Most QB's don't even play in their 1st year.
I'm sure you are not saying that with the benefit of hindsight!

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2008 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 4656139)
No.

I'm shooting you down because no one is saying that the rookie with a great year is a fluke, and the subpar years for others are total trash.

They are simply saying that guys like Bowe have to do it for more than one year before you label him a star, and Hali needs to step it up another level, as does Pollard.

As for Croyle, there are those who never believed he would amount to anything, and those that have high hopes for him.

The opportunity he had last year hasn't really changed anyone's stance.
He'll find a way to translate into: You think the entire team sucks.

He's done it consistently in this thread.

Frankie 03-29-2008 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4656118)
I swear you're about a sharp as a marble.

People are using it as validation to draft him. College success does not guarantee NFL success.

He'll be facing the best of the best, week-in and week-out. Not some true sophomore from Eastern Michigan who's a walk on.

Robert Gallery was very impressive in college.

Now that he has a few years under his belt, was he worth the 2nd overall pick?
So, you have a way of guaranteeing a college player's success or lack thereof? Man you could make millions working for any NFL team.



The point: No college player is ever a sure thing. They all come up and have to prove themselves against top competition.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2008 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 4656142)
I'm sure you are not saying that with the benefit of hindsight!
I'm sure I'm not as well.

I'd bet I watched more Chargers games last year ALONE as you have in your life, not counting games against KC.

The bottom line is that from 2000-2005, the Chargers drafted exceptionally well, and continue to do so.

During that same time frame, KC might have conducted the worst drafts in the league.

That is why they have young talent up and down their roster, while our cupboard is nearly empty.

Frankie 03-29-2008 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4656121)
Why is that?

Because they weren't drafted early?

Niswanger and Taylor COULD turn into Pro Bowlers. Or, they could be duds.

We won't know until we play them.
You repeatedly miss my point and then call me dense. My point is OUR D-LINE, while far from perfect, IS IN WAY BETTER SHAPE THAN OUR O-LINE!!


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