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SenselessChiefsFan 09-14-2010 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7004454)
Light it up? Downfield he wasn't getting within 5 yards of a receiver.

Rivers struggled and threw for 300 yards and 2 touchdowns.

Downfield, he had three drops. He had a back shoulder pass that Bowe should have caught. He had two other 'contested' drops. But the Chiefs don't have any guys that are going to get great separation.... so, most of the downfield passes will be contested.

And, one that you probably thought Cassel overthrew, Chambers gave up on. It would have hit him in stride. He just couldn't find the ball in the air.

Rivers had to throw. I don't know if you noticed. I am not saying that Rivers and Cassel are equal. I would rather have Rivers, obviously. But, Cassel had no reason to press the issue.

SenselessChiefsFan 09-14-2010 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7004461)
a) Rivers is a much better QB.
b) San Diego's D didn't let receivers go completely uncovered - Gates in the first quarter, TD pass and the long ball that Berry screwed up. You probably have about 100 yards passing there.

The other part here is that the Chiefs didn't need to push it downfield. They had a lead in a monsoon, at home, on Monday Night with a defense that was playing well and special teams that were outstanding.

milkman 09-14-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7004452)
Please show me any person on this board who actually posts opinions and hasn't been wrong.

Now, the problem is that some guys admit they were wrong, and some guys continue to make excuses for why they look wrong at the moment.

The reality is that we are fans. We all see things differently, and that allows us to be right about something that everyone else misses occasionally and we hold onto that, and think we have some 'great' insight.

But, their credibility is about the same as everyone else's on here. Of course, they still act like they know more than everyone else.... but that is more of a character flaw than anything else.

Once again, to balme Bowe for two "drops" is incredibly stupid.

the first "drop" was a fluttering rainbow (not Cassel's fault, he was hit as he released the ball) that Bowe adjusted to and nearly made a great play on between two defenders, but the trailing defender was able to get his hand in to knock the ball down before Bowe could secure.

The second "drop" was a well thrown, well placed ball that bowe simply could not plant his feet into the wet turf in order to adjust to the ball, and all he could do was throw his arms back in a attempt to swipe the ball out of the air.

If he had been able to make that catch, it would have been a spectacular catch, given the conditions.

Marcellus 09-14-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7004308)
Monday Night Football Schedule for the Drafturbators (all times EST)

7:00 Turn on computer, turn on Jets game. Crack knuckles in preparation of typing in all the great things Sanchez does in the game.
7:01-10:15 Sit in silence. Post nothing in the Jets/Ravens thread.
10:16 p.m. Say a quick prayer that Cassel plays as bad as Sanchez so you can save some face.
10:20 "Cassel's first pass sucked ass".
10:21-1:15 a.m Sit in frustration as KC hangs to a lead. Occasional posts about Cassel still sucking, although having the lead takes away from some game enjoyment. Oh, if only Matt could take a sack and fumble the ball. Drat, they won.
1:16 a.m. porn search.
1:30 a.m.- 3:00 a.m. argue with Hootie that he can't just enjoy the win.

I am curious as to where Dane is? He predicted Mathews would run for 170 and catch for another 50. Strange how those guys forget what they post after they are wrong.

Brock 09-14-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7004486)
The other part here is that the Chiefs didn't need to push it downfield. They had a lead in a monsoon, at home, on Monday Night with a defense that was playing well and special teams that were outstanding.

The inability to go downfield almost cost them the game.

Marcellus 09-14-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7004499)
Once again, to balme Bowe for two "drops" is incredibly stupid.

the first "drop" was a fluttering rainbow (not Cassel's fault, he was hit as he released the ball) that Bowe adjusted to and nearly made a great play on between two defenders, but the trailing defender was able to get his hand in to knock the ball down before Bowe could secure.

The second "drop" was a well thrown, well placed ball that bowe simply could not plant his feet into the wet turf in order to adjust to the ball, and all he could do was throw his arms back in a attempt to swipe the ball out of the air.

If he had been able to make that catch, it would have been a spectacular catch, given the conditions.


Cassel did not play well, bottom line, he also didn't play that bad all things considered. He needs to play better for KC to reach their potential.

Marcellus 09-14-2010 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7004521)
The inability to go downfield almost cost them the game.

Is this sarcasm?

milkman 09-14-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7004517)
I am curious as to where Dane is? He predicted Mathews would run for 170 and catch for another 50. Strange how those guys forget what they post after they are wrong.

Post #196 in this thread.


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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7003807)
Well, I LOVED the 2010 draft, even though I realized the Chiefs could have gone in a different direction and still would have come up with playmakers and contributors.

Arenas, McCluster and Moeaki all made great contributions to this evening's win. Eric Berry had probably his toughest task all year in his very first professional start and while he shit the bed a few times, he quickly recovered.

It's a great start to the season and quite frankly, more impressive than I had expected.


Chiefnj2 09-14-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 7004486)
The other part here is that the Chiefs didn't need to push it downfield. They had a lead in a monsoon, at home, on Monday Night with a defense that was playing well and special teams that were outstanding.

I completely disagree. Good teams, teams that win championships, go for the throat. They don't sit on a lead, go 3 and out and place their D in bad situations again and again. They needed to push the chains.

Marcellus 09-14-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7004536)
Post #196 in this thread.

Odd, no mention of the run defense.

Brock 09-14-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7004538)
I completely disagree. Good teams, teams that win championships, go for the throat. They don't sit on a lead, go 3 and out and place their D in bad situations again and again. They needed to push the chains.

That.

milkman 09-14-2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7004523)
Cassel did not play well, bottom line, he also didn't play that bad all things considered. He needs to play better for KC to reach their potential.

No, Cassel didn't play well.

But in the plays I'm discussing here, while I think it's stupid to blame Bowe for the "drops", I want to be sure that people understand that Cassel was in no way at fault either.

Hootie 09-14-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 7004517)
I am curious as to where Dane is? He predicted Mathews would run for 170 and catch for another 50. Strange how those guys forget what they post after they are wrong.

he took his ball and went home

he showed up...

but it was respectful dane with no cursing or being a dick..

because he was not only wrong...

he was COMPLETELY wrong...

HemiEd 09-14-2010 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rambleonthruthefog (Post 7003591)
the d would have given up a whole lot less if they weren't on the damn field the whole game. i'm pumped bout the win, but our QB and playcalling pretty much sucked from beginning to end.

You play to win the game!

HemiEd 09-14-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7004499)
Once again, to balme Bowe for two "drops" is incredibly stupid.

the first "drop" was a fluttering rainbow (not Cassel's fault, he was hit as he released the ball) that Bowe adjusted to and nearly made a great play on between two defenders, but the trailing defender was able to get his hand in to knock the ball down before Bowe could secure.

The second "drop" was a well thrown, well placed ball that bowe simply could not plant his feet into the wet turf in order to adjust to the ball, and all he could do was throw his arms back in a attempt to swipe the ball out of the air.

If he had been able to make that catch, it would have been a spectacular catch, given the conditions.

Exactly, it isn't fair to give Bowe drops on those two. The one he caught, was a poor throw as well. Hopefully this QB will learn to put the ball in spots, instead of just in the area.


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