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Nightfyre 03-22-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9521065)
Joeckel is not a shoddy prospect.

Thank you for that insightful analysis, dumbass. I have already done enough legwork to form my own opinion on the matter.

HolyHat 03-22-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 9521066)
Could still take Geno at #1, and Armstead in the 2nd. :shrug:

I just don't see how spending both a 1st and 2nd round pick on the QB position (Geno and Alex) is a bad thing. Most teams spend far more than that to trade up to get a franchise QB.

:thumb:

keg in kc 03-22-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9521044)
Keyword being prospect. You have no clue what he'll do in the NFL.

And if he does bust....his contract is fully guaranteed. Dead ****ing money.

The funny part is, we're talking about trading Branden Albert and drafting a guy with the #1 pick whose upside might be Branden Albert, if we're lucky, just to save a few million dollars a year. I mean, I might get the argument if we're replacing Albert with Orlando Ogden Roaf the third, but Joeckel ain't nothing special. There's four of five of him in the first round every year, and probably a few in the second from time-to-time.

The logic behind this (for the "fans") is just so bizarre. It's apparently okay to draft a "guy" at tackle at 1:1, but a quarterback has to be the love child of Bart Unitas and Otto Montana to justify the selection. I mean, shit, you read what some folks say on here, and they're like gleeful that the team doesn't appear to like Geno Smith.

BigMeatballDave 03-22-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9521062)
He's top 10. He needs to be here. Idiots who are rationalizing this rape are as dumb as *****.

Take one, please...http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Xanax_2_mg.jpg

RealSNR 03-22-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9521057)
Yes the same Clark Hunt who has shelled out more cash this offseason than anyone. Some of you are ****ing ridiculous. It's not about saving money it's about not overpaying a guy you don't think is worth it.

Larry Fitzgerald isn't worth his contract.

Joe Flacco isn't worth his contract.

Does that mean those teams should have let those stars walk? What's the most we would be "overpaying" Branden Albert? To cement a key fixture to any team for 5 years, how much would we be overpaying what he's actually worth? 2 million/year?

To be honest, I think Brandon Flowers is getting overpaid. If we want to start throwing that bullshit around, we should trade HIS ass, then draft one of these ultra-talented guys who will drop in this draft.

THAT would be a smart "business" move. Flushing the #1 overall to save $4 million or so is idiocy.

BigCatDaddy 03-22-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9521057)
Yes the same Clark Hunt who has shelled out more cash this offseason than anyone. Some of you are ****ing ridiculous. It's not about saving money it's about not overpaying a guy you don't think is worth it.

Then why franchise him if they don't think he is worth it? They think he sucks, but then want a 2nd round pick. Weird.

Edit: Nevermind I guess they gave up a 2nd for a player the other team thought sucked.

Nightfyre 03-22-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9521070)
I'm not defending his wallet. I'm saying he's not a cheap owner.

Of course he makes money, but he's spent more than anyone by a wide margin when you factor in coaches, gms

Dave was defending his wallet. My entire conversation with you has been misunderstanding after misunderstanding.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-22-2013 12:20 PM

Not liking Geno Smith is understandable, but arguable. Trading for Alex Smith and replacing Albert with Joeckel is rank incompetence.

Nightfyre 03-22-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapist (Post 9521077)
Larry Fitzgerald isn't worth his contract.

Joe Flacco isn't worth his contract.

Does that mean those teams should have let those stars walk? What's the most we would be "overpaying" Branden Albert? To cement a key fixture to any team for 5 years, how much would we be overpaying what he's actually worth? 2 million/year?

To be honest, I think Brandon Flowers is getting overpaid. If we want to start throwing that bullshit around, we should trade HIS ass, then draft one of these ultra-talented guys who will drop in this draft.

THAT would be a smart "business" move. Flushing the #1 overall to save $4 million or so is idiocy.

All of this.

Hammock Parties 03-22-2013 12:21 PM

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RunKC 03-22-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9521062)
He's top 10. He needs to be here. Idiots who are rationalizing this rape are as dumb as *****.

So we're gonna pay top 10 money to a LT who can't even play a full season and has roughly 3 or 4 years of good play left in him before he declines?

This sounds like a good business plan. :doh!:

The Bad Guy 03-22-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9521062)
He's top 10. He needs to be here. Idiots who are rationalizing this rape are as dumb as *****.

Why does he need to be here?

It's hilarious you calling someone dumb.

Hammock Parties 03-22-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9521085)
So we're gonna pay top 10 money to a LT who can't even play a full season and has roughly 3 or 4 years of good play left in him before he declines?

This sounds like a good business plan. :doh!:

Rationalize! Rationalize! Rationalize!

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keg in kc 03-22-2013 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9521081)
Not liking Geno Smith is understandable, but arguable. Trading for Alex Smith and replacing Albert with Joeckel is rank incompetence.

Well said.

RealSNR 03-22-2013 12:22 PM

Let's trade Hali and Flowers. Pay Albert, trade down for scraps, take a passrusher, CB with our new 2nd rounder, save a boatload of money.

Yay money!


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