We haven't discussed this and it's a huge negative.

2012 he didn't qualify for the rankings, but he hit 11.4 YPC, which would have been 23rd.

2011 he was 11.5, or 24th.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...12/passing.htm

Cassel not surprisingly was 31st and 27th. :LOL:

Oh, Josh Freeman was 2nd. o:-)

You kinda get what you pay for. Green cost the #12 with a 5th round kick back. Cassel is about what you get for a second. Smith should be better, but not by much.

Edit:My bad #12

Call a sportsbook if you want to lose the farm.
Vegas knows

35th in sack percentage in 2012
29th in 2011.

LMAO

You know. We still have the 1st pick in the draft. And Geno hasn't been claimed by any other team yet.

I might be one of the very few, but I still think he is a possibility. Even with the addition of Alex Smith and Chase Daniel.

Guys, I wasn't super stoked about the Alex pick-up either, but he's way better than Matt Cassel. Cassel, the last two years, has been the worst NFL QB that I've ever seen. Smith is probably like the 15th or so best QB in the NFL.

He's middle of the road. He's not great, and he doesn't suck. NO, that's not good enough, probably to win Super Bowls, which is why it's appropriate to not be excited about him.


Calling him Matt Cassel, however, is just silly. Cassel's stats are inflated by 2008 and 2010. He's been horrible since. Smith's numbers get better more recently. One is clearly ascending, one clearly descended. They're not the same guy at all.

Yeah, Matt missed 1 game a season on average. Smith's is..I don't know how the math to seperate injury from benching.

Cant Quote but to earlier post. Alex 11.4 YPC

Peyton Manning, Romo, Shaub, Stafford and Roethlesburger(sp) were 11.5. I don't see how this is such a huge negative. I just don't feel YPC is really a good way to judge a QB due to different styles of play.

Eh they are the same, they both rely on the run game and take that away and force them to pass and they are in deep shit.

Matt Cassel has had two good seasons.

Alex Smith has had 1.5 good seasons.

Yay!

Am looking forward to duck season next year.

**** off.

All this asshole does is throw the ball short and that's why his YPC is low.

Alex Smiths numbers are inflated by the 2011 season and half of 2012. He was horrible before that. Really they are pretty much the same guy.

I don't see him as ascending.

He has gotten coaching and playcalling to help him avoid failure.

That is how Cassel "succeeded" in '08 and '10.

To be fair not many QB's are successful without good coaching. Look at all your top QB's and look at the coaches. Flacco, Manning, Manning, Rodgers, Brees(look what happens with poor coaches), Wilson, Kaepernick, Brady all have good coaches.