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Ace Gunner 08-05-2013 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9861394)
Romeo's losing season was the abberration. The Chiefs made the playoffs in 2010 behind a shitty QB. The next year, they were a step away from making the playoffs even without Jamaal Charles, Eric Berry, Moeaki, and with Houston playing half the season.

This team is easily in the hunt. They are a long shot to go deep in the playoffs, and don't know that they ever will behind Alex Smith, but there's no way anyone can claim this team can't compete this year.
this. and you forgot to mention Falco. Shane Falco. c'mon friday night..

keg in kc 08-05-2013 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9861394)
This team is easily in the hunt. They are a long shot to go deep in the playoffs, and don't know that they ever will behind Alex Smith, but there's no way anyone can claim this team can't compete this year.
I haven't disagreed with any of that. All I'm arguing against is that 10 wins is somehow their floor. That's just east of Nutsville.

chiefzilla1501 08-05-2013 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861417)
I haven't disagreed with any of that. All I'm arguing against is that 10 wins is somehow their floor. That's just east of Nutsville.
Okay, agree with that.

FlaChief58 08-05-2013 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861417)
I haven't disagreed with any of that. All I'm arguing against is that 10 wins is somehow their floor. That's just east of Nutsville.
Yeah, 10 wins would have me dancing naked in the streets

durtyrute 08-05-2013 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861335)
Oh I agree. I just stop a bit short of assuming they'll instantly be a playoff team just 'cause.

The reality is that any competent QB play last season and they win 5 or 6 games instead or 2. I think the same is true for this year, but instead of 5 or 6, it's 7 or 8.

Can they win 10 games? Sure. It's not impossible. But it would take great play from a number of guys who haven't played great ball before now, and a complete and instant turn-around in team psychology, something that coaching staffs have repeatedly failed to do here for as long as I've followed the team.

I think it can happen eventually, I just expect it to take a bit longer than one season.
My name is Durtyrute and I approve this message. :thumb:

Kaepernick 08-05-2013 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful (Post 9861289)
I've been a Chiefs fan since Haynes played HB and no team had a worse coaching staff than last year. I have never seen worse schemes on Offense or Defense.
Paging Mike Singletary and Jimmy Rae.

"Smash them in the mouf!"

How bad was the 49ers coaching under Singletary. Defenses ROUTINELY called out 49er offensive plays before we ran them. I would put Singletary with Rae as OC up against anything you can muster for abysmal coaching. Anyone you can name.

Opps, well maybe you've got me beat after all -- BUT ONLY BY DEGREES!

http://athlonsports.com/nfl/slidesho...es-nfl-1990#13

Romeo Crennel -- No list of terrible NFL head coaches would be complete without a mangled branch of Bill Belichick's diseased and poisonous coaching tree -- and because Charlie Weis has mercifully never been an NFL head coach, the honor goes to Crennel. After failing in Cleveland at 24-40 from 2005 to 2008, the Chiefs inconceivably gave Crennel another shot three years later and he went 4-15 and routinely delivered quotes such as this one following Kansas City's 2012 Week 2 loss: "I thought that we would be better, and we're not. So we have to try and figure out what that is. From what I've seen, if we do what we're supposed to do, then we would be better." Definitely. That's some good coaching insight. It's surprising Crennel didn't win more.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/stor...es-nfl-history

DaneMcCloud 08-05-2013 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861405)
If Alex Smith maintains his checkdown/sack artist ways, and our #2 WR position remains a dumpster fire, and Sean Smith continues giving up first downs at a league-worst pace...we're definitely going to get our asses kicked against good teams.
The Chiefs don't play many "good teams" this season.

And you're speaking in hypotheticals.

If Avery has 800 yards and 3 TD's (last year's numbers), that won't be too shabby behind Bowe, Fasano and Charles.

Buzz 08-05-2013 08:43 PM
WORST TO FIRST, FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY STING LIKE A BEE! GO CHIEFS! VERMIEL OFFENSE, SCHOTTENHIEMER DEFENSE! SUPER BOWL HERE WE COME! YEAH BABY!



















sorry, never mind...

DaneMcCloud 08-05-2013 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861417)
I haven't disagreed with any of that. All I'm arguing against is that 10 wins is somehow their floor. That's just east of Nutsville.
This team won 10 with a shit QB and no pass rush outside of Hali. Won 7 without their shit QB (and a backup that was shittier), best running back, best TE and best safety.

If 10 wins isn't their floor, what is it? Nine?

Hammock Parties 08-05-2013 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9861446)
If Avery has 800 yards and 3 TD's (last year's numbers)
In a run-first offense, he won't.

It took over 650 pass plays called for him to get those numbers.

chiefzilla1501 08-05-2013 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9861381)
Hate to break it to you, but it probably isn't going to work out that way. Some guys will exceed expectations, and some guys will fall short. There's no way of knowing who or how many will fall into each category, but it's just not realistic to think that every move they made this offseason is going to pay dividends.

Like I said, it's possible, and I'm not at all saying it can't happen, but I think going into this season expecting 10 wins after seeing multiple low single-digit win totals in the last six years (4, 2, 4, 10, 7, 2...) is getting a little carried away.
It isn't that big of a turnaround. The Chiefs won 10 games in 2010. The way they played in 2011, they probably could have closed the season with close to 10 wins or more in 2011 with a healthy Jamaal Charles.

And in that time, they made plenty of personnel moves that can't get much worse than what they played with in those 2 years (and could be much better) and will probably have the best coached special teams units in the NFL.

Hammock Parties 08-05-2013 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9861456)
This team won 10 with a shit QB and no pass rush outside of Hali. Won 7 without their shit QB, best running back, best TE and best safety.

If 10 wins isn't their floor, what is it? Nine?
10 wins is the ceiling, and only a giant homer would think otherwise.

New World Order 08-05-2013 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9861372)
**** yes.


What is your evidence for these high expectations?

Never a 20 td or 3200 yards passing in a single year. He's also injury prone.

DaneMcCloud 08-05-2013 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9861457)
In a run-first offense, he won't.

It took over 650 pass plays called for him to get those numbers.
Well, you have no idea what the offense will look like this season.

DaneMcCloud 08-05-2013 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 9861466)
What is your evidence for these high expectations?

Never a 20 td or 3200 yards passing in a single year. He's also injury prone.
Just shut the **** up. This has been debated all offseason. Do a search.


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