I don't know, the look on her face pretty much reflected a soul crushing blow. Like she was questioning everything she believed in.

I'd have to think if she went back to back Jon Snow she would have immediately started her whole "I saw in the flames" BS as soon as she arrived at Castle Black.

Well, maybe she also saw Davos stabbing her to death if she showed a lack of sympathy for Shireen? :D

The Red Viper and his brother Doran would not kill Myrcella, I think he was being truthful to Cersei there. So that had to have been Ellaria and possibly the Sand Snakes. Which is dumb because the Red Viper caused his own death, and he would never have wanted for them to try to "avenge" him by killing an innocent girl.

I didn't even think of that. Though Jamie doesn't know that she was poisoned immediately afterwards so who knows. I would say Bronn would figure it out though after his run in with the hot sand snake.

Maybe they are willing to sacrifice him since he's headed to King's Landing now. :shrug:

Well then, here's to hoping Davos finds out it was her idea to burn Shireen!! :thumb:

First, just to correct myself -- the guy in the wheelchair (Doran Martell, the brother of Oberyn) is, technically, the "Prince of Dorne". Not sure why he is a prince, but whatever. His son is the heir, whatever he is called.

He is a political schemer. Think Tyrion-type. He isn't going to cast away his son so stupidly. Definitely a sand snake type of thing.

Perfect quote for Doran Martell. This is from the books (duh)

"I am not blind, nor deaf. I know you all believe me weak, frightened, feeble. Your father knew me better. Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him. I was the grass. Pleasant, complaisant, sweet-smelling, swaying with every breeze. Who fears to walk upon the grass? But it is the grass that hides the viper from his enemies and shelters him until he strikes.[21] ”

- Doran to the Sand Snakes

With Jon dead and Sam having relocated, I'd now be okay with the White Walkers overrunning the wall and taking Winterfell. I'll feel a bit of regret when the wildlings die, but everybody else I will be rooting for the White Walkers to win. In fact the can go ahead and take all of Westeros.

I am pretty much done with this show. As has been mentioned, all my favorite characters are dead, or damaged (Arya being blinded.) It was a hell of a risk to end the season this way. Despite the cliffhanger nature of the season finale, I am not finding myself saying "We have to wait for next year to find out?" No, I'm just pissed off.

You'll all be back

Here's the deal: all the viewers are now going to get exposed to the huge amounts of theories and ideas and lore from the books that supports those theories and ideas about where things are going.

Book readers have been keeping their mouths shut, but now with the TV show caught up, book readers are going to be able to yammer on about all the possibilities.

Anyway, very very few book readers actually think Jon Snow is dead. Also with regards to Arya:

Regarding Jon Snow, wouldn't they burn his body fairly quickly? It seems ol girl would have to act swiftly to change anything, unless maybe she can make something happen from his harvested blood.

Best part about this: the White Walkers are already dead!

Yeah probably. I'm just not as excited for this show as I once was.

That's probably about right. That's how I felt after reading the last two books as well. The show, and its differences, gave me some hope. But in the end, we're at the same basic spot in both the show and the books now, with the show, at least, arriving there much quicker and less painfully.