Originally Posted by OlineDline (Post 13969841)

You can't play press man and not set your safeties deep.

You may as well play zero.

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13969890)

You mean like the Ravens did to us and it worked?

Also you're talking about normal downs. It's different when it's 4th and 8 for the game. A lot can go wrong on a deep ball even if your WR has a few steps - especially if our pass rush gets there first. You sell out near the first down marker imo.

Also if a bomb does work, it gives Mahomes a chance to do something with the game tied (doubt they'd go for 2 if there were 2 minutes left). You have to think about the game situation and maybe think outside the box a little.

There's no reason not to gamble on defense there when a stop immediately wins the game, but a big play doesn't lose it. Take a freaking chance. Stop trying the same thing and expecting different results.

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan (Post 13969908)

Bill Maas said the defense is an issue caused by coaching. Sutton's job is to scheme while position coaches are responsible for teaching, positioning and technique. With that being said, if you have no talent dummies, you can't do much which now falls on Veach and his talent scouts.
However how often does the scheme miss the matchup?
Looks to me man to man is a failure and matchups look suspicious.
I support total overhaul of defense coaches including Sutton and Thomas.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13969762)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No YOU get over it! <a href="https://t.co/qwUKiPSsjx">pic.twitter.com/qwUKiPSsjx</a></p>&mdash; His Dirkness (@HisDirknesS) <a href="https://twitter.com/HisDirknesS/status/1075118027325300737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I mean......****.

This is why you should be able to review it. Or atleast sit in a room with the official and rewatch the play and have them explain what they called.

Like, come one guys, I understand officiating is tough. It's a tough gig, I've done it at the damn junior high level and it's not overly easy.

But god damn.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13970054)

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not think there is some serious ****ery afoot.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13969762)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No YOU get over it! <a href="https://t.co/qwUKiPSsjx">pic.twitter.com/qwUKiPSsjx</a></p>&mdash; His Dirkness (@HisDirknesS) <a href="https://twitter.com/HisDirknesS/status/1075118027325300737?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I mean......****.

This is why you should be able to review it. Or atleast sit in a room with the official and rewatch the play and have them explain what they called.

Like, come one guys, I understand officiating is tough. It's a tough gig, I've done it at the damn junior high level and it's not overly easy.

But god damn.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 13970054)

I don't know how anyone can watch that and not think there is some serious ****ery afoot.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13970177)

Same thing happened to the Chargers in the 2nd half.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The third-down holding penalty that kept KC’s fourth scoring drive alive. Get out of the way, zebras. <a href="https://t.co/caPZMmGWhN">pic.twitter.com/caPZMmGWhN</a></p>&mdash; Dan Hanzus (@DanHanzus) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanHanzus/status/1073429092765097984?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 13970182)

Everything the chiefs post on Twitter is met with 99% fire Sutton replies lol

Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 13970154)

It’s absolutely inexcusable! It’s no different than the missed false starts, there’s just almost no way a professional ref can be written off as “an imperfect human”. Not on these types of plays. I’ve been a ref for mighty mights all the way up through high school, and even I wouldn’t mess that **** up.

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 13969825)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">C2 man is fine in this 4th down situation, but NOT WHEN YOU&#39;RE LINING YOUR SAFETIES UP 20 YARDS DEEP AND DROPPING. An incredible throw and catch from Rivers keeps the drive alive, but even implementing their typical 10-15 yard safety depth gives Parker an attempt to make a play. <a href="https://t.co/qzuIGyCHW2">pic.twitter.com/qzuIGyCHW2</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1074868538920325120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Regarding safety depth.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13970255)

Am I the only one that sees zero problems with a single high alignment with the safeties split at 10 and 20 yards in a press zone cover 3 look (Saban runs cover3 press alot) that ends up being man press with a blitz and cover 2 deep? That's a good coverage disguise meant to help the blitz get home, which it didn't, and then the corner sucked, and the safeties ran too wide in their backpedals. Saying the scheme sucks is one thing, but it wasn't the scheme. The players executed the scheme like a bunch of ****ing tards.