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stonedstooge 02-28-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1968 (Post 8406136)
Once a Thug always a Thug....

Former KU player Marcus Morris cited for misdemeanor battery
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2012/fe...anor-b/?sports

What happened with the Morris twins? I don't follow a whole lot of professional basketball, but I see the highlights on ESPN. Haven't ever seen either one of them in a game. Weren't they drafted high?

mnchiefsguy 02-28-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8406163)
What happened with the Morris twins? I don't follow a whole lot of professional basketball, but I see the highlights on ESPN. Haven't ever seen either one of them in a game. Weren't they drafted high?

One of them wound up in the NBA developmental league or whatever it is called.

stonedstooge 02-28-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8406176)
One of them wound up in the NBA developmental league or whatever it is called.

Does the other one play? Wasn't he like 2 in the draft?

crispystl 02-28-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8402437)
I don't think they were trying to kill the clock, honestly.

They simply ended up with a lineup that had Moore and Matt Pressey on the floor at the same time. Suddenly they were playing 3 on 5 on offense and couldn't run the pick and roll.

Foul trouble really killed 'em. If they could've kept Flip, English or Ratliffe on the floor for just a couple more minutes between the 3 of them, they win that game. Unfortunately they were all in trouble at once and there just wasn't enough duct tape to hold together for the 5 minutes we needed.

Damn shame - they really showed a lot in that ballgame. Circumstances just caught up with them and KU caught fire at the same time. Tough loss, really tough loss.

But this is a very good basketball team.

I agree I don't think it was as much as complacency as it was losing Flip

Trevo_410 02-28-2012 08:37 PM

marqueef is doing better than his brother actually... marcuffs just got called up to the rockets but after this thing he got into with one of his own fans... I doubt he's there to stay...

RustShack 02-28-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 8405079)
Definitely an interesting matchup.

Babb did a great job against Denmon in the first matchup, I think 6 is Marcus' season low.

However...

Iowa State shot over 50 percent from 3 while Missouri shot just 24 percent. Missouri also had the worst foul trouble it can have (both Moore and Ratliffe picked up 2 early).

That's what it took for it to be a close game in Ames. I would expect Missouri to shoot better from deep while Iowa State shoots worse in Columbia. Which probably means it's not nearly as close a game.

Royce White is an undeniable X-factor, but he's not Superman - especially on the road. He's averaging 11.4 points, 11.3 rebounds, 6.4 assists on the road, but that balances against 3.9 TOs and 3.2 fouls a game (with him picking up 4 fouls in each of ISU's past three road games and in all road games against NCAA-bound teams).

That game was also back in the early stages when Iowa State was still pretty rough. They play more like a team now, and aren't as selfish individuals anymore. White isn't superman like he can me, he always chooses to pass first.

Babb has shut down every teams best player since conference play started. We've also gotten a lot better at rebounding here lately too.

Iowa State is one of those teams than can beat anyone they play, they just wont win all of them. If two of Christopherson/Allen/Babb/McGee get hot from the three theres a pretty good chance we can take it. KState was real good at shutting down three point shots until playing us Saturday because Royce White just opens it up. Double team him and he finds the open guy for the three, don't double team him and hes probably going to beat you himself.

There have been about three games this year where ISU showed up cold, if tomorrow isn't a forth time it should be a real good game.

duncan_idaho 02-28-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8406430)
That game was also back in the early stages when Iowa State was still pretty rough. They play more like a team now, and aren't as selfish individuals anymore. White isn't superman like he can me, he always chooses to pass first.

Babb has shut down every teams best player since conference play started. We've also gotten a lot better at rebounding here lately too.

Iowa State is one of those teams than can beat anyone they play, they just wont win all of them. If two of Christopherson/Allen/Babb/McGee get hot from the three theres a pretty good chance we can take it. KState was real good at shutting down three point shots until playing us Saturday because Royce White just opens it up. Double team him and he finds the open guy for the three, don't double team him and hes probably going to beat you himself.

There have been about three games this year where ISU showed up cold, if tomorrow isn't a forth time it should be a real good game.

Iowa State is 72/202 from 3 on the road in the Big 12 (including a 15-30 performance against Oklahoma that is the only time ISU has been above 40 percent on the road).

ISU has pretty consistently shot around 34 percent from 3 on the road.

It is HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely you guys shoot in Columbia like you did in Ames, according to the statistics. That's the only thing that really kept you in the game.

Hitting open shots becomes much tougher on the road than it is in a home arena.

ANd the main difference - Missouri shot 24 percent from deep and still beat you in Ames. It won't shoot that poorly at home. It's not like ISU is a great team at defending the 3.

smittysbar 02-28-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 8406575)
Iowa State is 72/202 from 3 on the road in the Big 12 (including a 15-30 performance against Oklahoma that is the only time ISU has been above 40 percent on the road).

ISU has pretty consistently shot around 34 percent from 3 on the road.

It is HIGHLY, HIGHLY unlikely you guys shoot in Columbia like you did in Ames, according to the statistics. That's the only thing that really kept you in the game.

Hitting open shots becomes much tougher on the road than it is in a home arena.

ANd the main difference - Missouri shot 24 percent from deep and still beat you in Ames. It won't shoot that poorly at home. It's not like ISU is a great team at defending the 3.

Good post

mnchiefsguy 02-29-2012 03:00 PM

Time for Mizzou to get some mojo going for the tourney...big game tonight for the seniors at home against ISU.

O.city 02-29-2012 05:24 PM

Again, sorry Rushshack, I think you guys are running into a buzzsaw tonight.


I see the Tigers with a pretty easy win. ISU shot the ball extrememly well, with MU shooting it terrible for the game in Ames to be close.

Bambi 02-29-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 8406176)
One of them wound up in the NBA developmental league or whatever it is called.

And the other one scored 12 points in last weeks rookie-sophomore game at All Star Weekend in Orlando, lol

stonedstooge 02-29-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8408564)
And the other one scored 12 points in last weeks rookie-sophomore game at All Star Weekend in Orlando, lol

What were they drafted at? Wasn't one of them the 2nd pick?

RustShack 02-29-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8408547)
Again, sorry Rushshack, I think you guys are running into a buzzsaw tonight.


I see the Tigers with a pretty easy win. ISU shot the ball extrememly well, with MU shooting it terrible for the game in Ames to be close.

Most teams shoot pretty bad against ISU, especially the players Babb is guarding.

KC_Connection 02-29-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8406163)
What happened with the Morris twins? I don't follow a whole lot of professional basketball, but I see the highlights on ESPN. Haven't ever seen either one of them in a game. Weren't they drafted high?

The entire league has players that are as good or better than the Morris twins. Neither one is likely to ever be an impact player in any capacity.

Bambi 02-29-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 8408597)
What were they drafted at? Wasn't one of them the 2nd pick?

oh no. They were drafted back to back near the end of the lottery.


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