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Balto 04-18-2023 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16906855)
Lol, no chance. It would be idiotic to trade Jones to try and get a guy that might eventually be almost as good as Chris Jones. Or he could be a huge bust.

Jones could want Donald money and Veach doesn't wanna pay it? Example Tyreek and if they feel strong about Carter's talent maybe it makes it easier for him?

Balto 04-18-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16906859)
It'd also be idiotic for another team to give up a high pick and the cheap years that come with that to pay Jones a bunch of money as he's turning 30.

Exactly why Veach could try to trade Jones as well. Maybe a team like the Cards with the cap space to pay Jones would rather have a guaranteed elite vet to anchor that new defense and are willing to give up that cap flexibility that they don't really need plus the risk of a rookie busting.

Cards get:
Jones
MVS
#31
4th round pick

Chiefs get:
#3 pick
Hopkins

I'd rather keep Jones and pay him BUT Veach has history of not making players the highest paid at their position, Hill and OBJ, I think Veach could look at Jones the same depending on contract talks.

Mecca 04-18-2023 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16906879)
Exactly why Veach could try to trade Jones as well. Maybe a team like the Cards with the cap space to pay Jones would rather have a guaranteed elite vet to anchor that new defense and are willing to give up that cap flexibility that they don't really need plus the risk of a rookie busting.

Cards get:
Jones
MVS
#31
4th round pick

Chiefs get:
#3 pick
Hopkins

I'd rather keep Jones and pay him BUT Veach has history of not making players the highest paid at their position, Hill and OBJ, I think Veach could look at Jones the same depending on contract talks.

I don't think Arizona would do that deal...

Megatron96 04-18-2023 11:55 AM

I don't know why Veach would want to

O.city 04-18-2023 11:58 AM

The Cardinals need to stockpile as many picks as possible, get as young as possible and rebuild. They don't want older contract players.

Honestly, they should ask teams how much of Dhops money they need to absorb to increase the pick they get back.

Megatron96 04-18-2023 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16906867)
Jones could want Donald money and Veach doesn't wanna pay it? Example Tyreek and if they feel strong about Carter's talent maybe it makes it easier for him?

Pretty sure Jones already said he wasn't looking for Donald money. And I don't think we can equate this hypothetical trade to the Tyreek trade.

Is this a late night BS idea? Not based in reality, just guessing what Jones might command?

Dante84 04-18-2023 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16906879)
Exactly why Veach could try to trade Jones as well. Maybe a team like the Cards with the cap space to pay Jones would rather have a guaranteed elite vet to anchor that new defense and are willing to give up that cap flexibility that they don't really need plus the risk of a rookie busting.

Cards get:
Jones
MVS
#31
4th round pick

Chiefs get:
#3 pick
Hopkins

I'd rather keep Jones and pay him BUT Veach has history of not making players the highest paid at their position, Hill and OBJ, I think Veach could look at Jones the same depending on contract talks.


The only way I like that deal is if we *immediately* trade back to the middle of the first round and get 2 1sts and some change.

Edit - I actually don't like that deal at all.

Balto 04-18-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16906930)
Pretty sure Jones already said he wasn't looking for Donald money. And I don't think we can equate this hypothetical trade to the Tyreek trade.

Is this a late night BS idea? Not based in reality, just guessing what Jones might command?

I don't remember seeing anything about Jones saying he wasn't looking for Donald money. Just that he wanted to be a Chief for life?

I think that tweet could mean that contract talks are not going well and Veach doesn't want to give him Donald type money.

raybec 4 04-18-2023 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16906879)
Exactly why Veach could try to trade Jones as well. Maybe a team like the Cards with the cap space to pay Jones would rather have a guaranteed elite vet to anchor that new defense and are willing to give up that cap flexibility that they don't really need plus the risk of a rookie busting.

Cards get:
Jones
MVS
#31
4th round pick

Chiefs get:
#3 pick
Hopkins

I'd rather keep Jones and pay him BUT Veach has history of not making players the highest paid at their position, Hill and OBJ, I think Veach could look at Jones the same depending on contract talks.

I think it's fantanstic that the Sunny Brook group home for wayward reeruns lets you guys get out of the helmets and on to the internet for a few hours a day. Maybe you should branch out and find new web sites to regail with your wisdom.

Megatron96 04-18-2023 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16906994)
I don't remember seeing anything about Jones saying he wasn't looking for Donald money. Just that he wanted to be a Chief for life?

I think that tweet could mean that contract talks are not going well and Veach doesn't want to give him Donald type money.

Sounds like you’re reaching. Chris already said he will only play for KC. He also said he wasn’t interested in donald money.

And Veach has made it clear that he wants to make sure Chris will be a chief. Veach has always planned on making Chris a good faith offer.

I think you’re just throwing shit against the wall.

Chief3188 04-18-2023 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 16906879)
Exactly why Veach could try to trade Jones as well. Maybe a team like the Cards with the cap space to pay Jones would rather have a guaranteed elite vet to anchor that new defense and are willing to give up that cap flexibility that they don't really need plus the risk of a rookie busting.

Cards get:
Jones
MVS
#31
4th round pick

Chiefs get:
#3 pick
Hopkins

I'd rather keep Jones and pay him BUT Veach has history of not making players the highest paid at their position, Hill and OBJ, I think Veach could look at Jones the same depending on contract talks.

I bet car salesmen love seeing you coming

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-18-2023 01:19 PM

Toney is in Texas!!

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JohnnyHammersticks 04-18-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16907112)
Toney is in Texas!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look who made to DFW�� <a href="https://t.co/cF0FGVxCBG">pic.twitter.com/cF0FGVxCBG</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1648400962904629250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nice to see him join the boys at Camp Mahomes.

dlphg9 04-18-2023 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16907112)
Toney is in Texas!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look who made to DFW�� <a href="https://t.co/cF0FGVxCBG">pic.twitter.com/cF0FGVxCBG</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1648400962904629250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There's a whole thread about it

Couch-Potato 04-18-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16907163)
Nice to see him join the boys at Camp Mahomes.

Q Johnston was there as well :hmmm:


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