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htismaqe 11-06-2006 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
I'll say it once again...

If/when Green starts for us, this year, I'm all for Trent Green. I don't care if Dustin Colquitt is our QB if we win the game...

You guys are confusing me as the anti-Green, and that's simply not true.

I want the Chiefs to win, win now...that's my main concern.

I think we have a better chance with Huard, the hot hand, and the guy not coming off a serious, career-threatening injury.

I've never mistaken you for the anti-Green.

I know you want the Chiefs to win, which is why I think your position is absurd. You've chosen superstition over reality.

Green is the better QB. Huard has been on this roster for 3 years. If he was better than Green, it wouldn't have taken an injury to get him on the field.

DRU 11-06-2006 05:35 PM

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he was blocking a DL or LB because Green couldn't get through all of his reads without getting sacked...you know, all of those extra reads he makes that Huard can't do...
This is a good point, and I'd agree that everything we've said about Green getting more reads depends on the o-line being able to give him the time. I could also agree that I'd like to stick with the game plan that we've been doing...for the most part...even with Green in the game.

Experience is the major factor here for me. We've gotten the same production out of both guys. When stats are the same, you move on to something else. Green has been a starter in this league for many years. Huard has had his chances and has NOT been able to win that job...ever. He's a backup, and I think there are reasons for that far beyond what any of us think we know.

If this team does make it to the playoffs, or even big games that could get us there, I'd rather have the guy who's seen all of these defenses before. The guy who can read blitz packages without even thinking about it because he's played these teams so many times and he's seen their packages so many times.

One bad read against a good team close to playoff time is all it would take to send us home.

Hootie 11-06-2006 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777
You kind of refuted yourself here....

Even if it were true that Huard finds Gonzo in the endzone more, by your own logic it wouldn't mean that Huard > Green.

Besides its not like Gonzo has gotten alot of TDS this year, before yesterday he had one.

I guess...

I really don't care who finds the end zone as long as we're scoring.

Comparing GrBac to Green/Huard and the way Gonzalez is used was pretty stupid...so you're right.

htismaqe 11-06-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DRU
When stats are the same, you move on to something else.

Exactly.

Hootie 11-06-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I've never mistaken you for the anti-Green.

I know you want the Chiefs to win, which is why I think your position is absurd. You've chosen superstition over reality.

Green is the better QB. Huard has been on this roster for 3 years. If he was better than Green, it wouldn't have taken an injury to get him on the field.

Eh.

It took two injuries for LJ to find the field.

Huard has all of the confidence right now, he's the hot hand, and he's the younger QB...

Why not ride him out and see what happens?

If we win a playoff game with him, and he stays effective...we can resign the guy, restructure Green or let him find a starting job elsewhere, and free up some money so we can sign some more playmakers.

Green isn't getting any younger...we've always cherry-picked backup QB's from other teams to take over as our starting QB, historically we haven't exactly had much success developing QB's...

Why not ride Huard for 3-4 more years? I really haven't been too impressed with Croyle.

I know, I know...I know nothing about football blah blah blah.

OldTownChief 11-06-2006 05:41 PM

ROFL
Tony's TD rec. fell off in 2005 but still had a better year than all but one with GrBac.

htismaqe 11-06-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
Eh.

It took two injuries for LJ to find the field.

Huard has all of the confidence right now, he's the hot hand, and he's the younger QB...

Why not ride him out and see what happens?

If we win a playoff game with him, and he stays effective...we can resign the guy, restructure Green or let him find a starting job elsewhere, and free up some money so we can sign some more playmakers.

Green isn't getting any younger...we've always cherry-picked backup QB's from other teams to take over as our starting QB, historically we haven't exactly had much success developing QB's...

Why not ride Huard for 3-4 more years? I really haven't been too impressed with Croyle.

I know, I know...I know nothing about football blah blah blah.

Because he's the BACKUP.

Do you really want to send a message to your team that all you have to do to lose your job is get hurt? Especially after guys like Eric Hicks did everything but screw the coaches wife and not get benched?

That's the surest way to not only not get the best out of your QB, but kill the chemistry of the entire team as well.

Que Card QB 11-06-2006 05:43 PM

I remember many years with NO quarterback, let alone two excellent ones.

Hootie 11-06-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Because he's the BACKUP.

Do you really want to send a message to your team that all you have to do to lose your job is get hurt? Especially after guys like Eric Hicks did everything but screw the coaches wife and not get benched?

That's the surest way to not only not get the best out of your QB, but kill the chemistry of the entire team as well.

so, let's say Herm names Huard the starting QB...

You really think the team is going to stop playing for Huard?

Really?

I don't.

Hootie 11-06-2006 05:47 PM

and I don't think it'll ever come to that...

If Herm decides on Huard...we'll continue to hear about another setback blah blah blah until eventually Green will suit up, be our emergency QB...and if something actually happens to Huard I wouldn't be surprised to see Green enter the game...

I don't think Herm is going to come out and name Huard the starting QB...but I think it's 50/50 right now on whether or not Huard will finish the season as starter.

Hammock Parties 11-06-2006 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I guess I watched the wrong game. I missed the games where Damon Huard SINGLE-HANDEDLY scored all those points.

And I missed the games where Green did.

psychadelicdream 11-07-2006 07:43 AM

lol their he goes again still not gonna hope off the middle of that fence huh buddy.......and huard single handly scores all of our points? yah cause hes the one running the ball....if anyone is scoring all the points its lj....so whats yer next best reply....you already used acid? what am i now on crack....loser.......go find anouther team.. im sure the cheifs dont want u as a fan

htismaqe 11-07-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs
And I missed the games where Green did.

I already explained it to you. It's not my fault you're playing dumb.

Green is the STARTER.

Huard has to distinguish himself ABOVE AND BEYOND Trent in order to WIN the starting job. You become a starter because you're BETTER THAN THE GUY BEHIND YOU, not because a guy gets hurt.

So far, Huard has done EXACTLY what Green has done - manage a game and utilize his weapons. Until Huard does MORE than that, he's the BACKUP.

htismaqe 11-07-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie
so, let's say Herm names Huard the starting QB...

You really think the team is going to stop playing for Huard?

Really?

I don't.

I didn't say that.

And thank God we don't have to worry about it. Herm will do the right thing.

Wile_E_Coyote 11-07-2006 11:09 AM

Green has proven himself here for over 5 years, Huard for 7 games. He has played well, but how many backups have lit it up for a few games & then gone to shit. Kelly Holcombe, Billy Volek, Tommy Mattox...


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