How could they not know Juice was at least Latino. He certainly does not look white to me.

heh, ok.......its a stretch..sure. : )

no shit, his name is Juan Carlos!

heh, this guy also had a little problem with vote scene because the two swing votes ended up being characters we dont know very well....


http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...guns-and-mommy


Though this is a situation where I wish we either knew more about Miles or else Sutter hadn't decided to upgrade him from prospect to keep the voting numbers uneven. Clay and Bobby go round and round trying to get the necessary votes to pass or squash the deal, and the swing votes wind up being Kozik, whom we only know a little about (was him being a former addict new information?) and Miles, about whom we know nothing.

Agree it could have been clearer, but I think the swing vote was Opie. Miles and Kozik were called out when Jax and Clay were saying what votes they had and who needed to be turned. They needed one vote, either Bobby or Opie. Jax got the deal done. And the seeds of the club cracking are set with a Bobby/Clay beef, not Jax/Opie. Then there is the turn on who will get the gavel when Clay and Jax are gone, different promises were made by Pres and V. Pres. Pretty good setup for a season of internal conflict, it just played a little frantic and instead of being clear, it's open to interpretation.

yea, love all the internal infighting and lying going on.

Also find it interesting that Jax is lying to Opie about his intentions. Telling him he wanted him right there next to him when he gets the gavel.

So when will Jax tell Opie the truth? Hes got to betray Opie or Tara. Which one? My guess is, Jax stays with the club and Tara ends up leaving him.

Either that or Tara ends up going the route of Opie's first old lady. Clay and Gemma always seem to not trust her and not being able to trust someone in that lifestyle leads to death.

With the whole manuscript back story it seems from day one they have been pointing to Jax getting out or changing the nature of the club. I don't see the draw to either one really, as I viewer I like the outlaw stuff and really get bored with the whole Tara-jax interaction.

I think they have managed to keep Tara/Jax fresh. She has changed over time and become more "hardened" to the life. Not quite Gemma hardened though.....

The show has a set ending in a few years from what ive read. So its either Jax stays and takes over leaving Tara behind, or he leaves with her. I think it could go either way.

Nice show last night, even if it seemed like a bridge or filler episode.

Could it be that the Cartel thing might only be temporary? "Can we Trust them?" "Only as much as we need to"

Thought the Tucson charter story was interesting....but why would Clay have an issue with dealing drugs but no problems with transporting it?

Loved the Piney/Tara/Gemma stuff......IM wondering if Tara is going to last much longer? Will she be killed or leave town?

Potter trying to stir up trouble was fun. Visting Otto in prison with photos of his dead ex Luann.

Where was Opie, Uncer and the new sheriff last night?? Their contracts must only allow them to appear in a certain number of episodes?


Oh, and Sutter has clarified some in his blog about the Juice stuff storyline that was brought up last week.


http://sutterink.blogspot.com/2011/0...te-of-mcs.html

Glad he blogged about the racial stuff as after last night I was even more confused to see an SOA chapter of mostly Hispanics. For the first time in a while Tara was at least intersting to me. I am glad to see Piney get a bit more of a role so far this year. An episdoe without Opie seems to be a waste. Love that guy and seems to really encompass what a Biker is about.

I really like the interaction between Gemma and the sheriffs wife. Gemma always seems to be plotting something so I dig when she gets invovled with things that appear to be outside the MC but you know somehow she is working an angle.

Well say bye bye to Juice in the finale I assume.

Yeah, Juice is done. There is no way he lives. Someone from the crew has to die, and his ass is the unlucky one.

It'd be nice if they threw Donal Logue or Michael Raymond-James a bone too.

Season 4 Episode 3.

Kozik is jumped by the black street crew. One of the Black Kids calls him Lemonhead. That was Kenneth Johnson's nickname in The Shield, which Kurt Sutter was involved in as well.

Love it.

Nice. Aceveda from The Shield shows up in S4E04. Gardocki is also in this season.

P.S. If you like this show, try watching The Shield. That's a great show too.