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RustShack 05-26-2012 08:04 PM

I know someone pointed to Quinn's Lions and Chargers game stats. Has Cassel ever shown he can do that in any game? Cassel has always had a lot more to work with than Quinn did too.

You are a complete idiot if you think Quinn doesn't have the talent and hasn't shown flashes.

BoneKrusher 05-26-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8640414)
I know someone pointed to Quinn's Lions and Chargers game stats. Has Cassel ever shown he can do that in any game? Cassel has always had a lot more to work with than Quinn did too.

You are a complete idiot if you think Quinn doesn't have the talent and hasn't shown flashes.



Cassel has proven to KC Fans he sucks, Quinn Hasn't had the chance yet.

Crush 05-26-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8640417)
Cassel has proven to KC Fans he sucks, Quinn Hasn't had the chance yet.

Damn straight. Cassel seems like a nice guy, but I really want him to die of antifreeze-infused AIDS. He really sucks and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

RealSNR 05-26-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 8640414)
I know someone pointed to Quinn's Lions and Chargers game stats. Has Cassel ever shown he can do that in any game? Cassel has always had a lot more to work with than Quinn did too.

You are a complete idiot if you think Quinn doesn't have the talent and hasn't shown flashes.

He has.

With Randy Moss and the Patriots.

Crush 05-26-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8640431)
He has.

With Randy Moss and the Patriots.

I'm sorry SNR, I'm drunk and I may have missed the entire meat of your argument, but Cassel was damn lucky. Damn lucky. Cassel must have snorted up ground up leprechaun to achieve that 11-5 season. Throwing it up to Randy Moss every chance he got must have wonders, but he ****ing sucks now and needs to be dealt with. I don't mean kill him, but force him to realize that he sucks and leave this franchise alone.

RustShack 05-26-2012 08:28 PM

Ironically Moss' year with Cassel was one of the worst in his career. How bad must Cassel suck that even Moss had a down year with him throwing to him.

Still a really good year for any WR, but one of HIS worst.

Saccopoo 05-26-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks (Post 8640385)
I hear ya. Quinn wasn't really given a shot. And he probably won't get a chance in KC sadly. Management is just too committed to Cassel.

I don't know about that this season.

Crennel doesn't seem tied to him and Pioli has been hearing it from the press about Cassel. They've got to know that the fans aren't really behind him as well.

I think that's the reason that they brought in Quinn. They need a guy who has a legit chance to make the push to start over Cassel and Quinn is familiar with the system and has better tools. You start to read about Quinn looking better than Cassel in summer camp and you've got yourself a full on push by the KC press and fan base to get him in there as soon as possible. Pioli will not be able to ignore that if it starts to build a head of steam and with Quinn still being relatively young, it's easy to see him getting the nod by the end of the preseason.

And if he doesn't make that push, then he's only signed to a relatively inexpensive one year and it's not a big deal anyway.

However, I think this is one of those moments that a guy just makes the jump. Brees' third year in San Diego. Manning's first Super Bowl run. It's just got that setup to it - knows the system, knows it's his best chance yet, a head coach with confidence in him, a very good supporting cast on both sides of the ball. I think it's his time. If it's not, then so be it and the Chiefs aren't out anything other than the one year affordable deal. If he blows up, then we got ourselves a guy and I don't think anyone around here would bitch too much about that.

Crush 05-26-2012 08:30 PM

If Cassel pulls a Trent Green in the preseason, then the celebration can begin.

Saccopoo 05-26-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8640395)
If Quinn was truly good enough, Elway and Fox would have had no problem with startin him over Tebow. Sure the fans might not like it, but it's not a GMs job to do what the fans like. If the fan pressure caused Tebow to start over Quinn, then the difference between Tebow and Quinn is pretty negligible.

Fan base. Ticket sales.

It took them signing Peyton Manning to unseat Tim Tebow. And that might have been the only guy to have been able to do it from a fan base perspective.

They simply dropped Orton like a hot potato.

There was no way in hell that Tebow wasn't going to start. The fan base demanded it.

Mr_Tomahawk 05-26-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8640449)
Fan base. Ticket sales.

It took them signing Peyton Manning to unseat Tim Tebow. And that might have been the only guy to have been able to do it from a fan base perspective.

They simply dropped Orton like a hot potato.

There was no way in hell that Tebow wasn't going to start. The fan base demanded it.

This.

+Rep.

Crush 05-26-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8640446)
I don't know about that this season.

Crennel doesn't seem tied to him and Pioli has been hearing it from the press about Cassel. They've got to know that the fans aren't really behind him as well.

I think that's the reason that they brought in Quinn. They need a guy who has a legit chance to make the push to start over Cassel and Quinn is familiar with the system and has better tools. You start to read about Quinn looking better than Cassel in summer camp and you've got yourself a full on push by the KC press and fan base to get him in there as soon as possible. Pioli will not be able to ignore that if it starts to build a head of steam and with Quinn still being relatively young, it's easy to see him getting the nod by the end of the preseason.

And if he doesn't make that push, then he's only signed to a relatively inexpensive one year and it's not a big deal anyway.

However, I think this is one of those moments that a guy just makes the jump. Brees' third year in San Diego. Manning's first Super Bowl run. It's just got that setup to it - knows the system, knows it's his best chance yet, a head coach with confidence in him, a very good supporting cast on both sides of the ball. I think it's his time. If it's not, then so be it and the Chiefs aren't out anything other than the one year affordable deal. If he blows up, then we got ourselves a guy and I don't think anyone around here would bitch too much about that.

Len Dawson began his career in Pittsburgh and it didn't pan it out. Brady Quinn began his career in Cleveland and it didn't pan it out. Coincidence? Most likely. However, if Quinn "turns out' and reaches his true potential then we will build a statue of him in front of Arrowhead. This fanbase is so desperate for a franchise QB and the treasures that it brings that it doesn't realize it.

BoneKrusher 05-26-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8640452)
This.

+Rep.

yep

Mr_Tomahawk 05-26-2012 08:34 PM

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105681

:D

Crush 05-26-2012 08:35 PM

Stanzi too, even more because we drafted him and he would be "our own." I just want a ****ing QB that will **** the competition repeatedly like a two dollar whore.

Crush 05-26-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8640457)

**** the Donkeys. Seriously. I hope to live to see the day when both that POS city and POS stadium are hit by a ****ing meteor. I also hope John Elway chokes on a piece of filet minion as Thannon Tharpe screams like a imbecile. **** that entire franchise and **** their messiah who had to have the refs bail them out to win. I ****ing hate Denver and I hope that city is completely wiped off the map before I am dead and gone. (No offense to either DaFace or Rainman you are swell guys, but... **** Denver)


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